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SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 23:10:57
January 27 2021 22:34 GMT
#81
SD or HD work for me.

I prefer HD for casting for obvious reasons, but really I just want my button remapping.

Overall, as I've always said, I fear SB will never have the player pool even a degraded and falling apart SCR ladder will have. The more it takes for a person to be engaged and playing a game, the drastically smaller percentage of players will want to involve themselves to get there. Probably unpopular to say, but ...

Sidenote: whats with all the spam accounts lately?
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
January 27 2021 22:50 GMT
#82
shield battery is sick and has great features and committed devs, the harder that blizzard bungles their remastered support the more people that will be pushed to shield battery. just need to get the koreans in there and then it's gg
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10163 Posts
January 27 2021 23:38 GMT
#83
On January 28 2021 07:34 SchAmToo wrote:
SD or HD work for me.

I prefer HD for casting for obvious reasons, but really I just want my button remapping.

Overall, as I've always said, I fear SB will never have the player pool even a degraded and falling apart SCR ladder will have. The more it takes for a person to be engaged and playing a game, the drastically smaller percentage of players will want to involve themselves to get there. Probably unpopular to say, but ...

Sidenote: whats with all the spam accounts lately?

Ignore the troll, it's a Blizzard shill who has been doing this for 2 years.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
wimpwimpwimp
Profile Joined May 2012
169 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 00:07:53
January 28 2021 00:00 GMT
#84
On January 27 2021 23:45 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
right cause then if my screen is using 1920*1080 then it could be trying to draw the game in SD at 1280*1024 within the 1920*1080, these screens if you switch to a non native resolution you get input lag : s
however i can confirm even using my old CRT on remaster it still wasn't drawing the SD graphics properly (that CRT was running the 640*480 like all CRT can do)

i mean have you tried wimpwimpwimp? cause it doesn't work here, SC:R switches to its own resolution which you can't pick, if I set my screen to 1280*1024 i get my input lag and lower refresh rate on desktop, run SC:R the resolution switches for it and the SD graphics are drawn badly as always

besides you want to be able to pick that resolution from within the game so it starts it up automatically and not switch your desktop resolution every time you run the game


Strange. On this PC Brood War never changes the screen resolution - the game respects whatever resolution is running at launch. This is also how I like it. Having the screen resolution change whenever i alt-tab would be a pain in the butt.

I never noticed input lag using non-native screen resolutions. I did some googling, and apparently this can be an issue, depending on your hardware and if it is your graphics card or your monitor handling the scaling. A GTX 1080 graphics card supposedly needs 80 microseconds to rescale – that’s not a lot.

I guess if your hardware is such that you’ll have to run the game in your monitor’s native resolution, then you have a problem. Still, the difference to my eyes at least between perfectly scaled 1280 x 1024, and 1920 x 1080, really is quite small.

Edit: In Options: Video: Display Mode, selecting "Fullscreen" means the resolution will change. Select Windowed (Fullscreen), and it will not.
dfhgzrfhgfhg
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 12:49:00
January 28 2021 12:47 GMT
#85
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2039 Posts
January 28 2021 12:56 GMT
#86
On January 28 2021 02:12 HaN- wrote:
Poll: How important SD graphics getting fixed is for you?

Can't wait (57)
 
51%

Don't care (54)
 
49%

111 total votes

Your vote: How important SD graphics getting fixed is for you?

(Vote): Can't wait
(Vote): Don't care




For some reason I misread the answers and clicked "Can't wait" rather than "Don't care". ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
January 28 2021 13:10 GMT
#87
I wonder if these Blizzard shills get paid by the accounts made.
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
January 28 2021 13:12 GMT
#88
On January 28 2021 22:10 9-BiT wrote:
I wonder if these Blizzard shills get paid by the accounts made.


its the same guy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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urtgdfgfdassad
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 13:20:37
January 28 2021 13:17 GMT
#89
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 14:01:29
January 28 2021 13:57 GMT
#90
Is SD graphics how it looked before remastered? i also voted wrong on poll, haha. if i could have pre sc:remastered SD graphics i would use that, but it looks horrible in sc:remastered for me so i use the new "improved" graphics.
Dunebug6
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom5 Posts
January 28 2021 21:22 GMT
#91
Wait, I'm a little confused but is wthe whole dislike of Remastered graphics more of a 'I just like the old feeling' of the original or is it an actual competitive difference? Because every pro and semi-pro I've seen play on stream all use the new graphics.
I personally really like the new graphics, makes watching the game much cleaner and combined with the upgraded spectator/replays it's really clean.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
January 28 2021 22:28 GMT
#92
On January 28 2021 07:34 SchAmToo wrote:
SD or HD work for me.

I prefer HD for casting for obvious reasons, but really I just want my button remapping.

Overall, as I've always said, I fear SB will never have the player pool even a degraded and falling apart SCR ladder will have. The more it takes for a person to be engaged and playing a game, the drastically smaller percentage of players will want to involve themselves to get there. Probably unpopular to say, but ...

Sidenote: whats with all the spam accounts lately?


All you need is to get Korean streamers to swap to Shieldbattery, which they'll gladly do if remastered continues to be plagued by hackers. At that point the entire Korean community will switch, which is like 98% of the player base.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
January 28 2021 22:41 GMT
#93
I like the remastered graphics and I know from personal experience that a lot of people will not watch 1.16, I've heard it over and over again that it looks bad.

It looks fine to us all because we're used to it, but to anyone else it looks terrible.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 23:57:50
January 28 2021 23:56 GMT
#94
On January 24 2021 07:33 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2021 07:21 Rus_Brain wrote:
Technically ShieldBattery is running old 1.16.1 version, right?
Connection is peer2peer or some sort of a hostbots are possible? (Like WC3 Novosibirsk/Russia hostbots make Eu vs Kr playable)

They have been working on making it work with RM.


God bless the SB team!

On January 29 2021 07:41 Qikz wrote:
I like the remastered graphics and I know from personal experience that a lot of people will not watch 1.16, I've heard it over and over again that it looks bad.

It looks fine to us all because we're used to it, but to anyone else it looks terrible.


Accurate.

I have a slight preference for RM, but it's subtle. It's when you want to show the game (or proscene) to non-playing friends that RM really shines. It's an almost instant nopekthxbye from friends if I show them 1.16. With RM, some of them will be engaged enough to consider giving it a shot.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10163 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-29 04:30:59
January 29 2021 01:17 GMT
#95
On January 29 2021 06:22 Dunebug6 wrote:
Wait, I'm a little confused but is wthe whole dislike of Remastered graphics more of a 'I just like the old feeling' of the original or is it an actual competitive difference? Because every pro and semi-pro I've seen play on stream all use the new graphics.
I personally really like the new graphics, makes watching the game much cleaner and combined with the upgraded spectator/replays it's really clean.

It's not such a big hurdle for 1.16 fans/players/former pros, if you're referring to my post about the Zealots. It's something someone can easily get accustomed to. As other posters have noted, RM/HD is definitely better for the casual viewer, especially those coming in nowadays and who haven't been around since the 00s.

However, I do note some small differences, particularly in the physical size of units on the screen*. SD Zerglings and Zealots feel "fatter" to me. HD Zealots had already cost me a game. Not that it is HD's fault, but that was the point where I said to myself it's just not worth it to get used to the new models.

I still prefer SD overall, but it's not an objective "this is better" type deal. It's just what I'm used to and instead of learning the new graphics as an old man playing a video game, I'd prefer to stick to the basics. But, if I could play in SD while streaming in HD, I would.

Hope this all made sense from one grumpy old fart!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 29 2021 02:51 GMT
#96
I think jealous' points are on key. I too gave the HD graphics a try and thought I got used to them, but found that I really missed SD graphics even if they are worst with RM so I've since went back to playing SD. SD graphics just feel timeless to me though I can also understand why someone who wants the newest shinest graphics might not like them when compared with HD graphics and dynamic lighting too etc...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
January 30 2021 13:05 GMT
#97
I watched some ASL/pro-fppov vods last night from before remastered came out, and it's really mind blowing how much worse SD looks in RM. Really made me miss the old graphics, I'd definetly go back if someone were to fix the awful RM SD renderer.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1181 Posts
January 30 2021 13:29 GMT
#98
I think you all are being disingenuous about this topic. HD graphics are objectively better no matter how you slice it.

As a matter of fact HD graphics are the sole reason this game is not dead at the moment. People will still argue against this but realistically SC:R HD graphics are probably the lowest quality a viewer and newish player will go for in this day and age without dismissing the game entirely because of that. (not just SC, just games in general).

Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3684 Posts
January 30 2021 13:39 GMT
#99
On January 30 2021 22:29 oxKnu wrote:
As a matter of fact HD graphics are the sole reason this game is not dead at the moment.


The game was doing just fine in Korea both player and viewership wise before RM. I don't know what you are on about.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 30 2021 14:25 GMT
#100
Other than watching replays/matches on HD I don't really care about new graphics. It's only really good for spectators cause when you zoom in and out graphics don't become distorted. But for playing I prefer 1.16.1 SD for sure.

Not only I want it to be fixed but I also wish they could add widescreen mode for SD.
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