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hgjjhghgjhgj
Profile Joined January 2021
2 Posts
January 26 2021 13:45 GMT
#61
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KJDFUZREGFD
Profile Joined January 2021
2 Posts
January 26 2021 15:25 GMT
#62
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 26 2021 21:08 GMT
#63
Does SB supports 1.16.1 still? I'm out of touch lately, if it is that will be amazing. I'm really tired from fucked up SD graphics on Remastered.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 26 2021 23:40 GMT
#64
On January 27 2021 06:08 outscar wrote:
Does SB supports 1.16.1 still? I'm out of touch lately, if it is that will be amazing. I'm really tired from fucked up SD graphics on Remastered.


Actually, that's a really good point. If we do end up having to move away from b.net onto private servers/shield battery, whats the point of using remastered over the original client?
SD graphics are just fine in 1.16.1 and the new graphics do have some flaws (worse visibility, all graphics being slightly off centered etc.). We know how to get 1.16.1 to run just fine on Windows 10, so even that advantage of remastered is null and void.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-26 23:56:57
January 26 2021 23:50 GMT
#65
yeah original graphics are just rendered trashy on remastered I wanted to play with them but it just doesn't look decent because of how badly they are rendered : /
perfect would be that you can use them with full screen also since that's allowed with the new graphics, but need to render them properly. if nobody can full screen then w/e i guess. I mean theres an issue anyway due to the bottom UI being drawn in 4:3 lul but anyway need proper render t_t
i've been having some fun playing 3v3s 4v4s with friends lately, nice that you can pick colors now however honestly there are a few colors that look way too close to each other so that's kinda dumb, can barely tell the difference between gray and black zeals or tan and white and a few others even on minimap that's kinda dumb. I mean the original game doesn't have that issue. I think that may be made worse by the new graphics actually idk cause then it wouldn't be an issue on minimap also
hey it's something ICCup has always missed is that it was only counting ladder games but you couldn't play like 3v3s and get stats for it that was missing you know : D i love to play 3v3 with some mix of premade vs whoever and it's just nice to get a stat count for it everyone likes that i think
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10108 Posts
January 26 2021 23:59 GMT
#66
As I said before, tec27 mentioned before that they are working on RM support. There is no point in hypothecizing about which version will be better.

This is doubly true because you not only don't want to estrange the people who grew used to RM graphics, but also because RM is free and legal to DL from Blizzard while 1.16 is abandonware for years at this point. Expecting people to have 1.16 is essentially shutting the door on legal and accessible options for new players, which is always bad. Add this to the fact that many viewers/casuals imaginable prefer RM graphics, I believe that RM is the only choice for SB and y'all are wasting your time discussing 1.16 in this context.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3696 Posts
January 27 2021 01:47 GMT
#67
On January 27 2021 08:59 Jealous wrote:
As I said before, tec27 mentioned before that they are working on RM support. There is no point in hypothecizing about which version will be better.

This is doubly true because you not only don't want to estrange the people who grew used to RM graphics, but also because RM is free and legal to DL from Blizzard while 1.16 is abandonware for years at this point. Expecting people to have 1.16 is essentially shutting the door on legal and accessible options for new players, which is always bad. Add this to the fact that many viewers/casuals imaginable prefer RM graphics, I believe that RM is the only choice for SB and y'all are wasting your time discussing 1.16 in this context.

Yep, 100% this. Fixing how Remastered renders SD graphics is on my planned roadmap, definitely not the highest priority thing though.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
wimpwimpwimp
Profile Joined May 2012
167 Posts
January 27 2021 11:06 GMT
#68
Remastered will deal with SD graphics just fine if your horizontal screen resolution is a multiple of 640 and your vertical screen resolution is higher than your horizontal resolution / 640 * 480. Probably also if your vertical screen resolution is a multiple of 480 and your horizontal screen resolution is higher than your horizontal resolution / 480 * 640. So if your maximum vertical screen resolution is less than 1440, stick to 1280 * 1024 or 1280 * any number higher than 960. Whatever imperfections you believe you see in this mode will be caused by your monitor upscaling the input.

If your vertical screen resolution is 1440 or higher, I believe 2560 * 1440 will also work fine.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 14:57:13
January 27 2021 14:45 GMT
#69
right cause then if my screen is using 1920*1080 then it could be trying to draw the game in SD at 1280*1024 within the 1920*1080, these screens if you switch to a non native resolution you get input lag : s
however i can confirm even using my old CRT on remaster it still wasn't drawing the SD graphics properly (that CRT was running the 640*480 like all CRT can do)

i mean have you tried wimpwimpwimp? cause it doesn't work here, SC:R switches to its own resolution which you can't pick, if I set my screen to 1280*1024 i get my input lag and lower refresh rate on desktop, run SC:R the resolution switches for it and the SD graphics are drawn badly as always

besides you want to be able to pick that resolution from within the game so it starts it up automatically and not switch your desktop resolution every time you run the game
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3674 Posts
January 27 2021 15:13 GMT
#70
I'm pretty sure somebody confirmed a while ago that SCR uses the same compression for HD and SD sprites which just happens to look like dogshit in SD mode. No changes to your resolution are gonna fix that.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 27 2021 16:53 GMT
#71
On January 28 2021 00:13 Lorch wrote:
I'm pretty sure somebody confirmed a while ago that SCR uses the same compression for HD and SD sprites which just happens to look like dogshit in SD mode. No changes to your resolution are gonna fix that.


Yep, him and me paid 15 € for that dogshit, or for worse graphics than before.
Broodwar for life!
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
January 27 2021 17:12 GMT
#72
Poll: How important SD graphics getting fixed is for you?

Can't wait (57)
 
51%

Don't care (54)
 
49%

111 total votes

Your vote: How important SD graphics getting fixed is for you?

(Vote): Can't wait
(Vote): Don't care


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hgfhfgdsaasdhfghghgf
Profile Joined January 2021
1 Post
January 27 2021 17:19 GMT
#73
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10108 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 17:50:19
January 27 2021 17:50 GMT
#74
An SD fix would be nice but frankly I've been playing with SD ever since a line of Zerglings ran past 2 of my "HD" Zealots on a ramp on Arcadia in like frontier league and I don't even notice/care anymore, and that is with me playing 1.16 consistently over the past 2 years as well. Really seems like a very minor loss of quality but maybe it is due to my setup(s).
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
hgfgfsada
Profile Joined January 2021
3 Posts
January 27 2021 18:57 GMT
#75
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
January 27 2021 19:00 GMT
#76
On January 28 2021 02:50 Jealous wrote:
An SD fix would be nice but frankly I've been playing with SD ever since a line of Zerglings ran past 2 of my "HD" Zealots on a ramp on Arcadia in like frontier league and I don't even notice/care anymore, and that is with me playing 1.16 consistently over the past 2 years as well. Really seems like a very minor loss of quality but maybe it is due to my setup(s).


Nah i dont notice it every day to, its just upsetting to have paid for that downgrade as a matter of principle.
Broodwar for life!
hgfgfsada
Profile Joined January 2021
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 19:11:29
January 27 2021 19:03 GMT
#77
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 20:00:36
January 27 2021 19:12 GMT
#78
On January 28 2021 04:03 hgfgfsada wrote:
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On January 28 2021 04:00 Cele wrote:
On January 28 2021 02:50 Jealous wrote:
An SD fix would be nice but frankly I've been playing with SD ever since a line of Zerglings ran past 2 of my "HD" Zealots on a ramp on Arcadia in like frontier league and I don't even notice/care anymore, and that is with me playing 1.16 consistently over the past 2 years as well. Really seems like a very minor loss of quality but maybe it is due to my setup(s).


Nah i dont notice it every day to, its just upsetting to have paid for that downgrade as a matter of principle.

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SD graphics are part of sc:r, thus i paid for them. Bw graphics are better than sc:r sd graphics. Thuse i paid for a downgrade.
Broodwar for life!
hgfgfsada
Profile Joined January 2021
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-27 19:26:08
January 27 2021 19:20 GMT
#79
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
January 27 2021 20:00 GMT
#80
Guys, stop feeding the troll.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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