• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:40
CEST 21:40
KST 04:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature3Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18Serral wins EWC 202549
Community News
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris10Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again! What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : I made a 5.0.12/5.0.13 replay fix
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull
Brood War
General
Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL Maps with Neutral Command Centers Victoria gamers [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway How do the new Battle.net ranks translate?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues The Casual Games of the Week Thread [ASL20] Ro24 Group C
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1088 users

Blizzard Classic Games "quietly dismantled"

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51463 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-23 00:39:30
January 23 2021 00:37 GMT
#1
Blizzard Absorbs Activision Studio After Dismantling Classic Games Team

Video game publisher Activision Blizzard Inc. took another step in consolidating control over division Blizzard Entertainment, which once took pride in its autonomy, by shifting a 200-person design studio to its ranks.

The studio, Vicarious Visions, had been a subsidiary of Activision since 2005 and worked on franchises like Skylanders, Crash Bandicoot and Tony Hawk. It will now focus entirely on Blizzard’s franchises, including Diablo, instead of making its own games. Former Vicarious Visions studio head Jennifer Oneal will take a seat on Blizzard's leadership team, reporting directly to the president.

The news, reported by GamesIndustry.biz, arrived just a few weeks after Blizzard quietly dismantled one of its internal development teams, according to people familiar with the company.


More details here: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-22/blizzard-absorbs-activision-studio-after-dismantling-classic-games-team

Safe to say that further development on both SC:R and WC3:R won't be happening anymore.
Thankfully for WC3:R there is the W3Champions team implementing ladder, host servers etc and with SC:R it looks like ShieldBattery has quietly revived itself
.
Commentator
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 23 2021 00:41 GMT
#2
I agree. I think 1.23.x is probably the end of the road for SC:R, and the only updates will be ladder map updates and if any gamebreaking bugs show up.

So anyone who is still holding out that Blizzard will add 2v2 matchmaking & ladder. Give it up. No one left to keep the promises.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Torchise
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-23 00:49:42
January 23 2021 00:48 GMT
#3
The last paragraph of the article says that Blizzard still wants to update WC3:Reforged, although obviously it's no longer in Team 1's hands. Remains to be seen how they will fix the game and how much it will get support.

Team 1 was also responsible for Heroes of the Storm, SC2 as well as SC:R. That explains why Blizzard recently dropped support for all of these games. This pretty much marks the end of old-school Blizzard (if you still had hope of the Blizzard of old to make a resurgence) since it shows that Activision is very willing to interfere with Blizzard's operations.
The baylife, it burns!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8514 Posts
January 23 2021 00:53 GMT
#4
Just the final nail in the coffin.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 23 2021 01:18 GMT
#5
Well this is terrible news, although I am really excited to play more ShieldBattery.... FULL SCREEN 2D YES
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
T45
Profile Joined April 2020
Germany16 Posts
January 23 2021 01:36 GMT
#6
No surprise at this point. Just confirmation of what most of us already thought.
I do not feel I have a quote I would call my quote. You can quote me on this.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
January 23 2021 01:58 GMT
#7
tec27 and 2pac the saviors we need but don't deserve
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10163 Posts
January 23 2021 02:12 GMT
#8
Honestly disgraceful to outsource the classic titles which were crucial to Blizzard's success. Shame.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-23 03:04:51
January 23 2021 03:02 GMT
#9
Yeah, I thought we already knew a lot of this news? Hmm. Well, VV working on remakes with the HotS team was what I wanted all along, but it's a shame how other elements are getting dissolved and scrambled up. Them slowing production on Diablo 4 to work with VV to make a Diablo 2 Remaster/Remake makes sense, since the assumption was D4 was still very early in development with core systems designs being a long ways from starting actual development and they know they're overdue to give people what everyone knows they want.

Does the article say anything more about what really happened, in more detail, with War3:R? I thought the Classic Games team only ended up making orders for art assets from a bunch of scattered external studios then pasting all the pieces together because of terrible management, and that Team 1 and the rest of Classic Games were working on other things before getting combined (collectively still spread too thin between HotS, SC2, SC:R, then War3:R and possibly something else). It's still so eye-roll-inducing how well the process for Crash and Spyro remakes went even though they did use many freelancers and studios, then apparently again with a brand new Crash 4, and Blizz was totally incapable of following that blueprint or was somehow totally unaware of the other side of their company.

Eh, whatever. I just feel bad for people working there as artists, programmers, small team leads and managers who have cool visions and high goals and just want to make cool games but get thrown around so much now at Blizz, and I assume Activision. VV getting taken away from more Tony Hawk remakes and potential new games might not doom that franchise, I feel that Killer Instinct 2013 with Double Helix and Iron Galaxy is a good example of how a good team with proper direction and management can pick up and carry a torch to victory. They even managed to do a great job with a limited budget for the base game, subsequent seasons, and even overcame the music production moving from Mick Gordon to Celldweller and Atlas Plug for the last season.

Lessons to learn for everyone else, hopefully. D4 has so much potential and yet I'm only planning on drooling over a few pieces of art here and there and otherwise not paying attention to anything else until it gets released at some point in the next five years.

*Might as well add: I couldn't help but imagine what TB and Incontrol would be saying about all this, and maybe how excited they might be for other studios starting up. Sigh...
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
January 23 2021 03:03 GMT
#10
On January 23 2021 10:58 Jonoman92 wrote:
tec27 and 2pac the saviors we need but don't deserve


you really have to stress the don't deserve part.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 23 2021 03:54 GMT
#11
So... who wants to play some on Shield Battery? I want to feel the amazing Latency again and play full screen 2D.... it is like a dream come true after years and years of lag instead of being able to use this or ChaosLauncher again.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 23 2021 06:19 GMT
#12
more on twitter:
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1352766999823314949?s=19
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
January 23 2021 06:31 GMT
#13
heh
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 23 2021 06:33 GMT
#14
Hype for never-ending ladder season 8
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4335 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-23 07:22:14
January 23 2021 07:18 GMT
#15
On January 23 2021 09:48 Torchise wrote:
The last paragraph of the article says that Blizzard still wants to update WC3:Reforged, although obviously it's no longer in Team 1's hands. Remains to be seen how they will fix the game and how much it will get support.

Team 1 was also responsible for Heroes of the Storm, SC2 as well as SC:R. That explains why Blizzard recently dropped support for all of these games. This pretty much marks the end of old-school Blizzard (if you still had hope of the Blizzard of old to make a resurgence) since it shows that Activision is very willing to interfere with Blizzard's operations.

I never liked the game but the War3 rehash has been out for a year now so surely it's in a far more playable state than it was right?

The user rating of 0.6/10 on metacritic with 30,000 reviews is an exaggeration yeah? People scoring it low due to blizzard bricking the original client? Nobody should be surprised they closed the team after that PR disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
January 23 2021 08:01 GMT
#16
On January 23 2021 16:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2021 09:48 Torchise wrote:
The last paragraph of the article says that Blizzard still wants to update WC3:Reforged, although obviously it's no longer in Team 1's hands. Remains to be seen how they will fix the game and how much it will get support.

Team 1 was also responsible for Heroes of the Storm, SC2 as well as SC:R. That explains why Blizzard recently dropped support for all of these games. This pretty much marks the end of old-school Blizzard (if you still had hope of the Blizzard of old to make a resurgence) since it shows that Activision is very willing to interfere with Blizzard's operations.

I never liked the game but the War3 rehash has been out for a year now so surely it's in a far more playable state than it was right?

The user rating of 0.6/10 on metacritic with 30,000 reviews is an exaggeration yeah? People scoring it low due to blizzard bricking the original client? Nobody should be surprised they closed the team after that PR disaster.

Still missing important stuff that was in the original game AFAIK (any ladder first and foremost, the community has produced their own ladder system but Blizzard's is still completely missing). Certainly I don't think the game would have deserved a 0.6/10 on its own merits, but Blizzard was asking (forcing?) people to pay for the game a second time, so it should *at least* provide all the stuff it had before that point.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
January 23 2021 09:40 GMT
#17
We have managed without their help for so long, so I think we will still be able to manage after the dissolution.

FIGHTING!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-23 09:45:46
January 23 2021 09:44 GMT
#18
On January 23 2021 16:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2021 09:48 Torchise wrote:
The last paragraph of the article says that Blizzard still wants to update WC3:Reforged, although obviously it's no longer in Team 1's hands. Remains to be seen how they will fix the game and how much it will get support.

Team 1 was also responsible for Heroes of the Storm, SC2 as well as SC:R. That explains why Blizzard recently dropped support for all of these games. This pretty much marks the end of old-school Blizzard (if you still had hope of the Blizzard of old to make a resurgence) since it shows that Activision is very willing to interfere with Blizzard's operations.

I never liked the game but the War3 rehash has been out for a year now so surely it's in a far more playable state than it was right?

The user rating of 0.6/10 on metacritic with 30,000 reviews is an exaggeration yeah? People scoring it low due to blizzard bricking the original client? Nobody should be surprised they closed the team after that PR disaster.

Nobody in the competitive scene plays on "Reforged" graphics.

95% of work was done by the community after Bli$$ard basically destroyed the game (still no "official" ladder support).

I just really wish they have left it alone, the community will manage like they always did.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
January 23 2021 09:54 GMT
#19
On January 23 2021 17:01 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2021 16:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On January 23 2021 09:48 Torchise wrote:
The last paragraph of the article says that Blizzard still wants to update WC3:Reforged, although obviously it's no longer in Team 1's hands. Remains to be seen how they will fix the game and how much it will get support.

Team 1 was also responsible for Heroes of the Storm, SC2 as well as SC:R. That explains why Blizzard recently dropped support for all of these games. This pretty much marks the end of old-school Blizzard (if you still had hope of the Blizzard of old to make a resurgence) since it shows that Activision is very willing to interfere with Blizzard's operations.

I never liked the game but the War3 rehash has been out for a year now so surely it's in a far more playable state than it was right?

The user rating of 0.6/10 on metacritic with 30,000 reviews is an exaggeration yeah? People scoring it low due to blizzard bricking the original client? Nobody should be surprised they closed the team after that PR disaster.

Still missing important stuff that was in the original game AFAIK (any ladder first and foremost, the community has produced their own ladder system but Blizzard's is still completely missing). Certainly I don't think the game would have deserved a 0.6/10 on its own merits, but Blizzard was asking (forcing?) people to pay for the game a second time, so it should *at least* provide all the stuff it had before that point.

When can we expect more promotion / more announcements about Shield Battery? Thanks for all of your hard work.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 23 2021 10:02 GMT
#20
didnt they also announce theyre absorbing the studio responsible for tony hawk with rumours of a remastered version of diablo 2 surfacing again?

mb theyre restructuring i dunno

WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JuggernautJason112
Livibee 76
MindelVK 62
ForJumy 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3491
Bisu 1127
Shuttle 782
firebathero 475
ggaemo 282
Soulkey 182
Dewaltoss 142
Hyuk 95
JYJ23
scan(afreeca) 20
[ Show more ]
HiyA 17
Dota 2
monkeys_forever164
League of Legends
Reynor60
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K377
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King43
Other Games
gofns7673
FrodaN1166
C9.Mang0174
Trikslyr62
PPMD20
ZombieGrub3
Sick1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 49
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 73
• davetesta42
• OhrlRock 1
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 42
• 80smullet 14
• FirePhoenix1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21170
• WagamamaTV731
League of Legends
• Doublelift1998
• TFBlade811
Counter-Strike
• Shiphtur190
Other Games
• imaqtpie1094
Upcoming Events
LiuLi Cup
15h 20m
BSL Team Wars
23h 20m
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
Korean StarCraft League
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 14h
SC Evo League
1d 16h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 17h
Classic vs Percival
Spirit vs NightMare
CSO Cup
1d 20h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Queen vs HyuN
EffOrt vs Calm
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Rush vs TBD
Jaedong vs Mong
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
herO vs TBD
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Jiahua Invitational
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSLAN 3
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.