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Simplistik
1891 Posts
What I still don't understand is what "protecting our IP rights" actually means to Blizzard. Does it mean they just want acknowledgement? Does it mean that they don't want anybody else to make money off SC1? Or do they want to get a part of the profits? Besides that it still looks as if partnering up with GreTech was a mistake as far as SC1 is concerned, as it hasn't worked out so far. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On October 24 2010 13:01 Selith wrote: We will continue to support StarCraft 1 no matter what, and will continue to open new tournaments. The chance for that will continue to be provided. We don't want to see progamer teams or big progamer-based groups to be disbanded due to this. - StarCraft 1 tournaments? What is this about? A. We are working with many different partner companies worldwide. Through the partners, we will continue to open tournaments and will support them. Our business is varied -- WoW, WarCraft 3, StarCraft and such. Due to the limitation of time and resources, right now, we have to choose and focus. But support for StarCraft 1 will not be reduced now or later. I don't believe you sorry. There was no Sc1 Blizzcon tourney. | ||
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butter
United States785 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:24 Simplistik wrote: What I still don't understand is what "protecting our IP rights" actually means to Blizzard. Does it mean they just want acknowledgement? Does it mean that they don't want anybody else to make money off SC1? Or do they want to get a part of the profits? Apparently it means recurring short-term contracts with the broadcasters where they get to dictate the timeslots of events. As they say, they don't care about the profits; their share can go to charity. Of course Kespa selling the broadcast rights got their attention. Responding to that is understandable. But it's clear now that Blizzard wants more than a pro forma acknowledgement of their IP. They want the ability to change their minds later about who gets to broadcast Starcraft and when it can be broadcast. | ||
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zilav
Russian Federation32 Posts
I want to see what will happen with sc2 when Diablo 3 is out. Can GSL and... GDL (Global Diablo League) coexist? SC2 will always be in their hearts and receive the same amount of "support"  | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
The guy said right there We still want to see StarCraft 1 and StarCraft 2 leagues to happen, and to be shown on the TV. But more importantly I like how people say "words are sweet", "action are worth more than words". So because this is blizzard speaking, you don't even give a fuck about what they have to say, and blindly reject their view on the matter? How can you be so biased? I think that people are pissed off because blizzard doesn"t appear as "evil" as some people like to believe. Quite uncomfortable, huh? Way to go, TL. Way to go. | ||
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:55 AlBundy wrote: THanks for translating, OP. The guy said right there But more importantly I like how people say "words are sweet", "action are worth more than words". So because this is blizzard speaking, you don't even give a fuck about what they have to say, and blindly reject their view on the matter? How can you be so biased? I think that people are pissed off because blizzard doesn"t appear as "evil" as some people like to believe. Quite uncomfortable, huh? Way to go, TL. Way to go. Yes, we blindly reject Blizzard the way you blindly accept SC2. We're just idiots born yesterday, we can't tell Blizzard's true intentions from their actions these couple months. | ||
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Simplistik
1891 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:55 AlBundy wrote: THanks for translating, OP. The guy said right there But more importantly I like how people say "words are sweet", "action are worth more than words". So because this is blizzard speaking, you don't even give a fuck about what they have to say, and blindly reject their view on the matter? How can you be so biased? I think that people are pissed off because blizzard doesn"t appear as "evil" as some people like to believe. Quite uncomfortable, huh? Way to go, TL. Way to go. It's not really bias here. It's hard to swallow him saying: "We want to see SC1 on TV." AT THE SAME TIME he's hosting a QA session on going to court to get an injuntion to stop SC1 being shown on TV. His actions and words aren't exactly consistent. | ||
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kwkwookw
218 Posts
On October 24 2010 13:01 Selith wrote: Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=111542&db=interview Paul Sams had a special interview session to have more in-depth information on Blizzard's stance in the whole SC 1 IP rights fiasco. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - StarCraft 1 tournaments? What is this about? A. We are working with many different partner companies worldwide. Through the partners, we will continue to open tournaments and will support them. Our business is varied -- WoW, WarCraft 3, StarCraft and such. Due to the limitation of time and resources, right now, we have to choose and focus. But support for StarCraft 1 will not be reduced now or later. HAHA what bs. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:02 zenMaster wrote: Yes, we blindly reject Blizzard the way you blindly accept SC2. We're just idiots born yesterday, we can't tell Blizzard's true intentions from their actions these couple months. Yes I blindly accept sc2, if that means anything. I'm glad to see sc1 as well as sc2 being played at pro level. On October 24 2010 15:04 Simplistik wrote: It's not really bias here. It's hard to swallow him saying: "We want to see SC1 on TV." AT THE SAME TIME he's hosting a QA session on going to court to get an injuntion to stop SC1 being shown on TV. His actions and words aren't exactly consistent. Ok I can understand that. | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:55 AlBundy wrote: THanks for translating, OP. The guy said right there But more importantly I like how people say "words are sweet", "action are worth more than words". So because this is blizzard speaking, you don't even give a fuck about what they have to say, and blindly reject their view on the matter? How can you be so biased? I think that people are pissed off because blizzard doesn"t appear as "evil" as some people like to believe. Quite uncomfortable, huh? Way to go, TL. Way to go. If you're not knowledgeable on a subject, it's best to stay silent than promote your ignorance. People aren't scoffing at Blizzard's words merely because of pre-disposed views. That's your own assumption. However, what is intangible is the past history of tournaments and Starcraft on TV. Where was Blizzard during the past 10 years? Aside from the invitationals and Blizzcon, how often did Blizzard hold Starcraft tournaments let alone attempt to broadcast them? If the US isn't as receptive to gaming on TV as Korea, then why not try to make a mark in the nation that bought half of all Starcraft 1 copies? Where was Blizzard 9 years ago when Korea was promoting e-sports using a product made by Blizzard? Why wait until 2007, after e-sports had flourished and become an established enterprise in Korea, to "protect" your IP rights? Let's be honest here. What Blizzard wants from KeSPA is money. They want KeSPA to continue doing the things they are (ie: no additional work for Blizzard). If KeSPA doesn't comply and does die out, do you really think Blizzard can replicate what KeSPA has done? After all, Blizzard can't even run Blizzcon correctly so how are they supposed to run/manage/overlook OSL/MSL, progaming teams, and progamers in a country halfway across the world? | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:12 MayorITC wrote: If you're not knowledgeable on a subject, it's best to stay silent than promote your ignorance. People aren't scoffing at Blizzard's words merely because of pre-disposed views. That's your own assumption. However, what is intangible is the past history of tournaments and Starcraft on TV. Where was Blizzard during the past 10 years? Aside from the invitationals and Blizzcon, how often did Blizzard hold Starcraft tournaments let alone attempt to broadcast them? If the US isn't as receptive to gaming on TV as Korea, then why not try to make a mark in the nation that bought half of all Starcraft 1 copies? Where was Blizzard 9 years ago when Korea was promoting e-sports using a product made by Blizzard? Why wait until 2007, after e-sports had flourished and become an established enterprise in Korea, to protect your IP rights? Would you watch a tournament if it was only amateurs that played in it? Whats the point of having a tournament when you can't even get the top players to play... This is the problem that Blizzard faced. You can't run a tournament when Kespa says hey well these are our players and we won't let him participate. | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:15 mprs wrote: Would you watch a tournament if it was only amateurs that played in it? Whats the point of having a tournament when you can't even get the top players to play... This is the problem that Blizzard faced. You can't run a tournament when Kespa says hey well these are our players and we won't let him participate. What? Blizzcon? WW Invitationals? S-class progamers always attended those. I don't even see how your comment pertains to my point anyway. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:12 MayorITC wrote: (...) Let's be honest here. What Blizzard wants from KeSPA is money. They want KeSPA to continue doing the things they are (ie: no additional work for Blizzard). If KeSPA doesn't comply and does die out, do you really think Blizzard can replicate what KeSPA has done? After all, Blizzard can't even run Blizzcon correctly so how are they supposed to run/manage/overlook OSL/MSL, progaming teams, and progamers in a country halfway across the world? I may indeed seem not knowledgeable and shortsighted, but after reading that: We want to say again, that what we really want is for broadcasting stations to continue broadcasting the games after getting the StarCraft 1 license. In additional, when this is resolved, there will probably be more ways where we can work together with. But first of all, we must resolve the broadcasting rights issue that started years ago, before we continue talking about other things. It is important to get trust by resolving the age-old problem. It is too hasty to expect a partnership when there is no trust built yet. I can't help but think positively and be confident about this whole issue. Instead of hating one side or another, I'll just wait and see. Blizzard may not be honest, but at least that Paul sams interview is definitely not bad news. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4504 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:27 ArvickHero wrote: If all this money they are charging going to charity, why the fuck are they charging so much in the first place Because donating to charities makes you a good guy. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
Let's hope they stay far, far away from SC1. | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:41 jalstar wrote: Blizzard "support" for SC2 meant $20 a month, no option for Korean commentary, and broken streams. Let's hope they stay far, far away from SC1. And KESPA international E-sport support means no English commentating AT ALL, and will let SC die everywhere except for in Korea (and on Teamliquid). I like what Blizzard is trying to do for Starcraft 2. The first few seasons will be rough, but it will no doubt get better. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:51 toadstool wrote: And KESPA international E-sport support means no English commentating AT ALL, and will let SC die everywhere except for in Korea (and on Teamliquid). I like what Blizzard is trying to do for Starcraft 2. The first few seasons will be rough, but it will no doubt get better. Because it's only good if it's in English right. | ||
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toadstool
Australia421 Posts
On October 24 2010 15:58 Ryo wrote: Because it's only good if it's in English right. No, it's good when my friends who never watch Starcraft are excited about GSL, and share the same interests as I do. I like Starcraft. I've watched OSLs and Proleagues for years. But it's so much more enjoyable when my real life friends watch it with me. | ||
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