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stylesj
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4 Posts
August 07 2010 12:00 GMT
#1
First off i just wanna say, you guys run a fucking awsome website, and have the best sc comunity on the web. a week or 2 ago a post/blog was on the firstpage that had mentioned the broodwar player grrr. Now i have looked and attempted to find out more info on this guy, but as it stands i haven't been able to find much of what i am looking for. As my forum topic states, i am looking for some info on really how good grrr was when he played back in the day. I figured this be the place to ask, as some of you old timers might remember him and could give me your insights. On a side note, i was wondering who would be considered the absolute best bw player to come out of na/eruope ever. Thanks for reading my post, and i look forward to any information you guys can give me.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 07 2010 12:05 GMT
#2
look for his PvZ against..........can't recall, it's a twilight map, I'll look, it's pretty popular.

He was also the first OSL winner and therefore, by default, the first Royal Roader.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
August 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#3
here's his liquipedia page in case you haven't found it yet: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Grrrr...
-Desu-
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Turkey173 Posts
August 07 2010 12:06 GMT
#4
Grr was the first non-korean who is recognized by koreans.
eckolove
Profile Joined January 2010
Mexico66 Posts
August 07 2010 12:07 GMT
#5
i dont was part of sc when grrr.. was in is peak, but he won a friking starleague in his time, so he was REALLY good..)
XDsCrazy
Profile Joined February 2003
Canada119 Posts
August 07 2010 12:08 GMT
#6
The best NA/Europe player of all time would be Elky I think, sure his skill level was lower then the best player of today (different time) but because of his result and performance (TV games, leagues result) I think he deserve it.


As for Grrrr... He was probably the first real progamer, back in the day he was the best player in the world and kept that status for a decent ammount of time. When korean started playing this game proffessionaly, some got better and he eventually retired.

We can assume (I think) that he was a pionneer for Esport and was a the time the best player in the world like I said.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 07 2010 12:09 GMT
#7
he played drunk and won regularly
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 07 2010 12:10 GMT
#8
He helped establish a lot of elements of modern strategy, including the gas steal, and won an OSL in the process.
As for skill, I'd probably put a B on iccup above him in skill. But given the time in which he was around, that really doesn't mean anything. Pre-Boxer wasn't all that strong.
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chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 07 2010 12:10 GMT
#9
Grrrr.... was fairly dominant for over a year and before he was the single dominant player, it was him and Maynard dominating above all others. He won everything for a period - there wasn't as much to win as there is today but his accomplishments are still really impressive. He was a celebrity, screaming girls and all. He was easily the most successful player to come out of NA/Europe (he won a StarLeague) but Idra is probably the best Western player ever - but that's because everyone today is better than players 10 years ago.

or something like that
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nK)Duke
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany936 Posts
August 07 2010 12:11 GMT
#10
On August 07 2010 21:10 choboPEon wrote:
Grrrr.... was fairly dominant for over a year and before he was the single dominant player, it was him and Maynard dominating above all others. He won everything for a period - there wasn't as much to win as there is today but his accomplishments are still really impressive. He was a celebrity, screaming girls and all. He was easily the most successful player to come out of NA/Europe (he won a StarLeague) but Idra is probably the best Western player ever - but that's because everyone today is better than players 10 years ago.

or something like that


elky is
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 12:21:03
August 07 2010 12:20 GMT
#11
On August 07 2010 21:11 nK)Duke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 21:10 choboPEon wrote:
Grrrr.... was fairly dominant for over a year and before he was the single dominant player, it was him and Maynard dominating above all others. He won everything for a period - there wasn't as much to win as there is today but his accomplishments are still really impressive. He was a celebrity, screaming girls and all. He was easily the most successful player to come out of NA/Europe (he won a StarLeague) but Idra is probably the best Western player ever - but that's because everyone today is better than players 10 years ago.

or something like that


elky is


elky was awesome but i think we're answering different questions

if he's asking who is the best player to ever come out of na/euro, it's idra. he'd beat everyone. but is he the most successful player? no, not even close.

and if youre saying elky is the most successful, it's all about that starleague man! :D
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 07 2010 12:20 GMT
#12
wasn't grrr.... dubbed as the Golden Boy or something?
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
August 07 2010 12:36 GMT
#13
On August 07 2010 21:05 SilverSkyLark wrote:
look for his PvZ against..........can't recall, it's a twilight map, I'll look, it's pretty popular.

He was also the first OSL winner and therefore, by default, the first Royal Roader.

Deep Purple?
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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
August 07 2010 12:42 GMT
#14
They interview Grrr at about 15:25. Documentary by National Geographic


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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
August 07 2010 12:43 GMT
#15
he was Grrreat but its pretty funny if you watch them play nowadays, they had aprox 100 apm back then.
Dataleif
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden252 Posts
August 07 2010 12:44 GMT
#16
On August 07 2010 21:36 Crunchums wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 21:05 SilverSkyLark wrote:
look for his PvZ against..........can't recall, it's a twilight map, I'll look, it's pretty popular.

He was also the first OSL winner and therefore, by default, the first Royal Roader.

Deep Purple?

wasnt it the game on blade storm where he used dark archons?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
August 07 2010 12:46 GMT
#17
He was the best player in the world for a period of time, even beating out the Koreans in their own tournaments in the peninsula. His inter-Korean dominance lasted maybe 5~7 months perhaps, before the advent of the progamer schedule where people would practice eight + hours a day. Even in that environment, Grrr was still a rather good player for a while, although not nearly as good as he was before when he could get by on pure talent.
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VictorW
Profile Joined May 2009
United States157 Posts
August 07 2010 12:48 GMT
#18
On August 07 2010 21:44 Dataleif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 21:36 Crunchums wrote:
On August 07 2010 21:05 SilverSkyLark wrote:
look for his PvZ against..........can't recall, it's a twilight map, I'll look, it's pretty popular.

He was also the first OSL winner and therefore, by default, the first Royal Roader.

Deep Purple?

wasnt it the game on blade storm where he used dark archons?


Search Grrrr in Team Liquid's replay archive or you can go to this video with commentary on youtube:

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=sJvQJWTEL9w&feature=watch_response_rev
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 12:52:42
August 07 2010 12:49 GMT
#19
Nope, i think he is talking about the bladestorm game against sigamari (ZergLee) on Bladestorm which was ultra ling vs maelstrom.

Grrr is the most accomplished because he won a starleague. The whole "different era" argument doesn't hold for the same reason Super Bowl I counts as much as this year's. Elky was the second most accomplished in Korea in a much more competitive era, placing forth in a starleague (after an epic meltdown in the 3rd/4th place games).

Grrrr... is still the best known foreigner in Korean BW after 10 years, and even before he went he dominated tournaments. After 01 it was a rather quick downhill slide into poker.

edit: damn my slow tlpd skills, I was answering the guy a few posts above.
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Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
August 07 2010 13:12 GMT
#20
On August 07 2010 21:05 SilverSkyLark wrote:
look for his PvZ against..........can't recall, it's a twilight map, I'll look, it's pretty popular.

He was also the first OSL winner and therefore, by default, the first Royal Roader.


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