Eventually it comes down to how much you practice, but the amount of unnecessary flaming here is a shame

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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Eventually it comes down to how much you practice, but the amount of unnecessary flaming here is a shame ![]() | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
I can only comment on what I saw since back then we don't have coverage like we do now ![]() That being said, I don't doubt ANY of the former old school players from coming back and doing work on the current scene, stuff like this is like riding a bike, the fundamentals are there, the rest is just motivation and practice. You certainly don't just forget all the non-game specific things you learned. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71352 Highlights: + Show Spoiler + ![]() One of the very few white guys that got to perform in one of those crazy costumes. (They need to run a Nostalgia tournament with the space suits ^_^) + Show Spoiler + Grr and Maynard displaying their heterosexuality. ![]() | ||
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Waxangel
United States33503 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On August 08 2010 20:16 Manifesto7 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 20:01 swanized wrote: On August 08 2010 16:03 Boonbag wrote: On August 08 2010 06:00 swanized wrote: On August 08 2010 05:37 Tossim111 wrote: On August 08 2010 05:10 randomKo_Orean wrote: On August 08 2010 04:59 Necosarius wrote: ^You mean Grrr would be B- if he had the same skills he had back in 2000? No way, D+/C- max. I say C/C+. Grrr was god among men grrr... would be way above those kinds of players still now, his skills back then are still way more better than todays generation of players, the only thing he would need is todays build orders nonsense Grrr would struggle in D+ possibly, you know why Grrr fell? Grrr thought using hotkeys was a waste of time and hotkeys were not necessary for good plays On August 08 2010 19:57 Manifesto7 wrote: On August 08 2010 06:00 swanized wrote: On August 08 2010 05:37 Tossim111 wrote: On August 08 2010 05:10 randomKo_Orean wrote: On August 08 2010 04:59 Necosarius wrote: ^You mean Grrr would be B- if he had the same skills he had back in 2000? No way, D+/C- max. I say C/C+. Grrr was god among men grrr... would be way above those kinds of players still now, his skills back then are still way more better than todays generation of players, the only thing he would need is todays build orders nonsense Grrr would struggle in D+ possibly, you know why Grrr fell? Grrr thought using hotkeys was a waste of time and hotkeys were not necessary for good plays once Koreans got mechanically correct Grrr fell If Grrr came to ICCUP with today's build orders and his skills of 2000 he would struggle in D This is a really ignorant post. There are a whole slew of people that are inherently talented at BW, Nony, Grrr, Midian, Testie, ret, Nazgul, etc, that when they come back to BW they reach an extremely high level after a handful of games. Obviously if giyom used 2000 build orders he would lose, but he wouldn't. His natural skill at this game would come through very quickly and he would dominate everyone but the top in-practice players. If you want a practical example, you could witness Nazgul who came back from years of inactivity to go 1-2 PvT vs inDove, an SKT1 B teamer in a mere two weeks in the sandlot tournament. again I don't want to take anything away from Grr but I was answering to how would Grrr fare if he decided to log on ICCUP and play a few games, even with modern BO I don't he would do well of course he was immensely talented and with 2 weeks of practice he cold be good but with no practice I don't think he would do well sorry if that was not clear great god of TL once Koreans got mechanically correct Grrr fell If Grrr came to ICCUP with today's build orders and his skills of 2000 he would struggle in D What a load of bs. Fyi; Grrrr... almost never ever practiced for any game. He'd rather play Tetris actually... He actually started to lose because he didn't care about Sc anymore and playing 10 hours a day wasn't his thing. Had he practiced 10 hours a day and joined Ideal space back then, he would have dominated Korea for a good extra year. Also, all these players like Reach, Kingdom, Boxer etc... He was beating them up pretty bad online, while having half the apm they had. well sure maybe had Grrr practiced and all he would be really strong but the question was if Grrr palyed with his skills of 2000, not had he practiced 10 hours a day, learned modern build orders etc, I don't want to take anything from Grrr he was a superb player but if he came back today he would get crushed easily, had he practiced in ideal space etc,etc,etc then I don't know, you can't compare Eras Then what is the point of your post. That if someone doesn't play they are worse than current players? That is pretty fucking obvious to me. Please argue less foolish points. well the point of my post was answering someone who asked how good would Grrr be if he came to ICCUP with his skill of 2000 I called nonsense since someone said he would be B- I agree it is a foolish point but thinking he wold come back with his skills from 2000 and be B- is nonsensical hence the point of my post :p | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On August 09 2010 02:02 Waxangel wrote: oh shit, is that former female progamer Lena in that pic? I forgot she existed -_- I just looked up | ||
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On August 08 2010 19:25 Altair wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 06:00 swanized wrote: nonsense Grrr would struggle in D+ possibly, you know why Grrr fell? Grrr thought using hotkeys was a waste of time and hotkeys were not necessary for good plays once Koreans got mechanically correct Grrr fell If Grrr came to ICCUP with today's build orders and his skills of 2000 he would struggle in D Is this your ICCUP account? http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/swanized.html I will restrain form further comments, i do not want to get banned. LOL ok cool I am D/D+ and not very good at Starcraft what was your point exactly? | ||
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Ricjames
Czech Republic1047 Posts
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
On August 09 2010 02:35 swanized wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2010 19:25 Altair wrote: On August 08 2010 06:00 swanized wrote: nonsense Grrr would struggle in D+ possibly, you know why Grrr fell? Grrr thought using hotkeys was a waste of time and hotkeys were not necessary for good plays once Koreans got mechanically correct Grrr fell If Grrr came to ICCUP with today's build orders and his skills of 2000 he would struggle in D Is this your ICCUP account? http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/swanized.html I will restrain form further comments, i do not want to get banned. LOL ok cool I am D/D+ and not very good at Starcraft what was your point exactly? His point is probably that you don't know what you're talking about, Grrr wouldn't struggle vs a player of that level. | ||
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Tossim111
United States246 Posts
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Tossim111
United States246 Posts
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
BoxeR is Brood War. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On August 08 2010 21:13 Rekrul wrote: btw, funny story artosis had been playing sc2 beta hardcore for weeks on end, grrr had only a few games under his belt grrr had a party at his house w/ tasteless and artosis and some peeps grrr played a game of sc2 vs artosis and easily raped him artosis not knowing grrr so well, instead of nerd raging (cuz he too scared to do it in that kinda situation especially cuz it's IRL) just quietly left the party w/out saying anything lol thats pretty golden | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On August 08 2010 21:13 Rekrul wrote: btw, funny story artosis had been playing sc2 beta hardcore for weeks on end, grrr had only a few games under his belt grrr had a party at his house w/ tasteless and artosis and some peeps grrr played a game of sc2 vs artosis and easily raped him artosis not knowing grrr so well, instead of nerd raging (cuz he too scared to do it in that kinda situation especially cuz it's IRL) just quietly left the party w/out saying anything now this .. we need VODs man .. | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
That would be like judging the '69 Pontiac GTO negatively because a modern day Maxima would whip it on the track and it would absolutely get destroyed by any modern day performance car... | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11587 Posts
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Astrapto
United States69 Posts
Grrr... was an incredibly talented foreigner who owned the world from '99 to '00 as random. He was a major innovator (especially Protoss builds), and crushed the Koreans without practicing. He was like the original progamer, before Boxer. He won everything there was to be won (which was less back then), and became the closest thing to a foreigner bonjwa that ever was. He would've been better had he been inspired by 1) competition, and 2) money, which showed up later as the game became famous and his overthrowers became the new standard. 2000 Grrr owned the 2000 world ladder as random, but 2000 Grrr would do poorly on the 2011 ladder, because of the improving standards of the game. With practice, a 2011 Grrr could do well. User was warned for this post | ||
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RoyaleBrainSlug
United States295 Posts
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
Go play origianl LT, Jungle Story, Legacy of Char, Jim Raynor's Memory. All these old maps that used to be popular. NOW: try to macro. Notice how your main has 7 min patches, expansion prolly 6 and not necessary with a second gas. You can't FE cause the map pathing is silly and all your build order timings don't line up. Say grrrr somehow used "2000 BOs" (cause he's had them memorized this whole 11 years) he would look at his money and be like "holy fuck I have a lot of money" and then his build would change. I wish I say this silly argument earlier. The new standardization of maps (for most part standard min patch relationship between mains and expands which are in 99% case more than the older maps) changed the flow of the game outside this guys time. Without realizing that, you can't even begin to make a legitmate comparison. | ||
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