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WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 20:05:16
February 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#1
Maybe it's the rose-tinted glasses but it seems like this community is becoming a lot meaner recently. For example, in the recent "Abusive Parents" blog a kid is posting about how he is upset he has no social life, no social skills, and is not in a good place right now. Then he talks about how his parents are always pushing him past his limits, and removing any enjoyment he could get from his life. As soon as he mentions his Asian parents it seems like all of the people who were raised by Asian parents come out of the wood work and are like "Yeah, maybe you were chased around a table by your dad trying to beat you for 10 minutes, but I had it worse". Well, so what? The person posting the blog is looking for advice and empathy and the commenters devolve it into an Asian penis showing competition about who had the more abusive parents, like it's something to be proud of.

And that's just one of the threads recently that has turned into a shit-on-OP fest. So, before you post a rude comment like that, remember there is someone who wrote the OP in the first place, and would like a positive post. And then don't post. Just don't.

And chill.



EDIT: On a side note, I really miss MetorSkunk. That dude was positive as balls.

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Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 17 2013 20:07 GMT
#2
You should hang around with me, I'm so positive I almost have HIV.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
February 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#3
The expectation that you should be able to post sob stories online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.
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GERMasta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany212 Posts
February 17 2013 20:14 GMT
#4
1/5 because OP falsly assumes the community was at some point anything other than negative.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 17 2013 20:15 GMT
#5
On February 18 2013 05:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The expectation that you should be able to post anything online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.

This is what sir Dew meant.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
February 17 2013 20:17 GMT
#6
On February 18 2013 05:14 Sauwelios wrote:
1/5 because OP falsly assumes the community was at some point anything other than negative.

See the very first line of the post.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 17 2013 20:33 GMT
#7
How long have you been here? Every time we get an asian parent complaint blog its exactly like this. I think we had people telling someone to suck it up and work harder at school when their parents were actually physically beating them one time. Its been this way forever.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#8
It's always like that though. Everyone's view and definition of "abusive parents" comes out and they always feel the need to compare each other on who had it worse (who endured the most, who suffered, etc.).

It's like a pity-party of dick-waving.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
February 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#9
Probably a runoff from the perceived state of the game. In general, the community is typically negative though.
Iranon
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States983 Posts
February 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#10
Think about the recent influx of new members to TL (mostly from SC2, but LoL/Dota2 as well). By and large, the ages TL members is probably fairly close to bimodal, with one peak corresponding to the average BW fan and one peak corresponding to the average SC2 fan (at least 5 years apart, probably more?). Certainly not everyone falls into one of those two groups; I myself was a BW fan first but didn't join TL and start posting here until relatively recently, but on average I would be surprised if that wasn't true. That's a small gap in the larger scheme of things, but there's a huge maturity gap between ages 15-20 and ages 25+. Blogs about high school problems are going to resonate with some posters and be, at best, amusing to others. Which of those two posters is more likely to take the time to respond?


Also, mtdew's post speaks truth.

Also also, that "Abusive Parents" blog is perhaps not the best example, as it was truly ridiculous. I cannot fathom how anyone would read something titled "Abusive Parents" which contains the line "They didn't even buy me an iPhone" and respond with empathy. I'm often snarkier than is perhaps called for, but come on. Really?
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
February 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#11
On February 18 2013 05:33 sob3k wrote:
How long have you been here? Every time we get an asian parent complaint blog its exactly like this. I think we had people telling someone to suck it up and work harder at school when their parents were actually physically beating them one time. Its been this way forever.

Since 2008. And wow, that's a lot worse than this current one... holy!
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SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
February 17 2013 20:50 GMT
#12
First thing I did was check when he joined. 2010. Lol... TL's become FAR and away a much more care-bear community now than it used to be. Back in the old days, TL had much more sophisticated trolls, most people knew each other, and everyone was merciless in dissecting a post and showing all its innards of stupidity.

And yeah, this is a community with a large % of Asians. Weakness and mediocrity are not treated with compassion.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
February 17 2013 21:00 GMT
#13
On February 18 2013 05:07 Cokefreak wrote:
You should hang around with me, I'm so positive I almost have HIV.


Haha, that is hilarious! I'm gonna save that one for future reference.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 17 2013 21:04 GMT
#14
On February 18 2013 06:00 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:07 Cokefreak wrote:
You should hang around with me, I'm so positive I almost have HIV.


Haha, that is hilarious! I'm gonna save that one for future reference.

You're welcome <3
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
February 17 2013 21:06 GMT
#15
Really, Samsung? Are you going to back that up at all? From what I've seen it was much more polite(probably because everyone knew each other).

My profile says 2010. I've been here a while longer.

Iranon - I read that part as him being upset he never got any birthday gifts or anything. It was pretty entitled sounding but it was one line in the post that everyone jumped on, ignoring the rest of it and the entire point of the blog.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
February 17 2013 21:26 GMT
#16
On February 18 2013 06:06 WarSame wrote:
Really, Samsung? Are you going to back that up at all? From what I've seen it was much more polite(probably because everyone knew each other).

My profile says 2010. I've been here a while longer.

Iranon - I read that part as him being upset he never got any birthday gifts or anything. It was pretty entitled sounding but it was one line in the post that everyone jumped on, ignoring the rest of it and the entire point of the blog.


You don't remember when Rekrul was modding and Chill posted actively in blogs section? Fanatacism, CM, moltkewarding, Mani even. The old TL vets were way more belligerent when it came to someone they thought was stupid. Nowadays, the mods are mostly impersonal and cleave to site policy rather than individual biases. The kids just whine about balance. There's hardly anywhere near as much venomous hatred between fans of rival teams, just in general TL is much more benign than how it used to be. Sure, there was more chumminess between members who knew each other, but when it came to general reactions to idiocy, TL was a much more hostile place in the past.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
February 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#17
On February 18 2013 06:00 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:07 Cokefreak wrote:
You should hang around with me, I'm so positive I almost have HIV.


Haha, that is hilarious! I'm gonna save that one for future reference.

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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 17 2013 22:19 GMT
#18
On February 18 2013 05:04 WarSame wrote:
As soon as he mentions his Asian parents it seems like all of the people who were raised by Asian parents come out of the wood work and are like "Yeah, maybe you were chased around a table by your dad trying to beat you for 10 minutes, but I had it worse".


I couldn't help but think of this clip



Maybe it would help keep people from being so serious
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
February 17 2013 22:33 GMT
#19
On my community forum it's more negative...
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 17 2013 22:48 GMT
#20
On February 18 2013 05:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
It's always like that though. Everyone's view and definition of "abusive parents" comes out and they always feel the need to compare each other on who had it worse (who endured the most, who suffered, etc.).

It's like a pity-party of dick-waving.

There is several legal definition of abusive parenting in as many countries as there is on earth. So while it is pointless to compare one's experience with another, it is certainly not wrong to say (and it was the case in the aforementioned blog post) to point out that this mention of abusive is severely exaggerated.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 17 2013 23:01 GMT
#21
On February 18 2013 05:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The expectation that you should be able to post sob stories online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.


why? why is it too much to hope for a helping hand if you're down on the ground, and instead get told "suck it up, other people have it worse in life"? people are allowed to ask for help, even if it's only mental support
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
February 17 2013 23:10 GMT
#22
On February 18 2013 08:01 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The expectation that you should be able to post sob stories online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.


why? why is it too much to hope for a helping hand if you're down on the ground, and instead get told "suck it up, other people have it worse in life"? people are allowed to ask for help, even if it's only mental support


You're being dramatic here without taking the context of each topics asking for help. Topics like "I have abusive parents because I don't have an iPhone" deserves the "suck it up response". Topics like this: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=397919 do indeed deserve mental support responses which TL has thoroughly provided.

Really, the community is slightly skewed toward negativity in line with the rest of the anonymous Internet, but when someone really needs support or help, the community is there to help out.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
February 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#23
On February 18 2013 06:26 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:06 WarSame wrote:
Really, Samsung? Are you going to back that up at all? From what I've seen it was much more polite(probably because everyone knew each other).

My profile says 2010. I've been here a while longer.

Iranon - I read that part as him being upset he never got any birthday gifts or anything. It was pretty entitled sounding but it was one line in the post that everyone jumped on, ignoring the rest of it and the entire point of the blog.


You don't remember when Rekrul was modding and Chill posted actively in blogs section? Fanatacism, CM, moltkewarding, Mani even. The old TL vets were way more belligerent when it came to someone they thought was stupid. Nowadays, the mods are mostly impersonal and cleave to site policy rather than individual biases. The kids just whine about balance. There's hardly anywhere near as much venomous hatred between fans of rival teams, just in general TL is much more benign than how it used to be. Sure, there was more chumminess between members who knew each other, but when it came to general reactions to idiocy, TL was a much more hostile place in the past.


I agree with this.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
February 18 2013 00:06 GMT
#24
On February 18 2013 08:01 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The expectation that you should be able to post sob stories online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.


why? why is it too much to hope for a helping hand if you're down on the ground, and instead get told "suck it up, other people have it worse in life"? people are allowed to ask for help, even if it's only mental support


Of course people are allowed to ask. Don't mind the haters. Just ignore them.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
March 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#25
On February 18 2013 08:25 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 06:26 SamsungStar wrote:
On February 18 2013 06:06 WarSame wrote:
Really, Samsung? Are you going to back that up at all? From what I've seen it was much more polite(probably because everyone knew each other).

My profile says 2010. I've been here a while longer.

Iranon - I read that part as him being upset he never got any birthday gifts or anything. It was pretty entitled sounding but it was one line in the post that everyone jumped on, ignoring the rest of it and the entire point of the blog.


You don't remember when Rekrul was modding and Chill posted actively in blogs section? Fanatacism, CM, moltkewarding, Mani even. The old TL vets were way more belligerent when it came to someone they thought was stupid. Nowadays, the mods are mostly impersonal and cleave to site policy rather than individual biases. The kids just whine about balance. There's hardly anywhere near as much venomous hatred between fans of rival teams, just in general TL is much more benign than how it used to be. Sure, there was more chumminess between members who knew each other, but when it came to general reactions to idiocy, TL was a much more hostile place in the past.


I agree with this.

Me three ;D
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GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
March 04 2013 17:29 GMT
#26
Check your Asian privilege, duh.
http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
March 05 2013 03:25 GMT
#27
On March 05 2013 02:29 GnarlyArbitrage wrote:
Check your Asian privilege, duh.
http://takimag.com/article/tackling_asian_privilege_gavin_mcinnes/print


Not sure if that's satire or serious. Cannot tell. If its serious (which i doubt) its retarded. If its satire, not the best I've seen. Feels so serious.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 08:25:01
March 05 2013 04:07 GMT
#28
i didnt notice anything o_o

i lied. you guys hate yolo and swag :<
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ihOpe
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
192 Posts
March 05 2013 05:08 GMT
#29
You also have to be aware of the demographic age of the population that is catered on TL. Different blogs will evoke variable responses from anywhere from the ages of 13-30+ years of age. That in itself is an overlap in generations, which plays a large role in shaping opinions of the people in their generational era
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
March 05 2013 08:03 GMT
#30
Everybody wants to be the best man

and lately people are lining up for the ''I have it the worst'' debate
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 22:31:07
March 05 2013 22:24 GMT
#31
On December 15 2005 11:38 Prawned wrote:
"Basically" there is absolutely NO FUCKING NEED to say basically.
"At the end of the day" Shut up
"Tell me about it" Erm, I just did
"To be honest" What's the bloody point of saying that.



Holy mother of shit, I've used "Basically". Somewhere, I feel like Prawned is raging at me.

+ Show Spoiler +

Edit: Fuck you, Prawned, I'll say whatever I want, when I want. Basically, to be honest, at the end of the day, your opinion is just made of a deadly combination of rage, stupidity and shit. You know what I think is completely unnecessary? Adding "fucking" in the middle of sentences. We get it. You used caps/shift key, we know you're mad. But what the fuck. Why don't we just optimize all of dialogue right now by never using adjectives ever again from this point forward? Why would you go "What's the bloody point of saying that." and end the goddamn fucking sentence with a period instead of a question mark at the end of your rant!?

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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
March 06 2013 02:36 GMT
#32
The community took a huge nosedive since SC2 came out. I've gone on the automated ban list multiple times just to see pages of post 2010 accounts before you can find someone 2009 and prior with a ban. I don't know what it is or why suddenly a new game brings a bunch of garbage, but it did and I guess I've just gotten used to it.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 19:13:37
March 06 2013 19:13 GMT
#33
yeah no it wasnt nicer 2 years ago. you must have not been around 2005, 2006, 2007... when you were an idiot then, you got shat on. all these dumb girl blogs and idiots like stateofthereverie, efferentwhateverthefuck etc wouldnt have made it a month because they'd have either rage quit the site or have been banned
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Niteblade_
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada292 Posts
March 06 2013 21:56 GMT
#34
I agree about expecting positive from the Internet. And it depends on tone. If it sounds like botching, people will jump on you. If it sounds like a thoughtful post people are more likely to respond positively.

And on the bad/abusive parents note, I'm pretty sure I win (not that I care, I just tel people this to shut them up when they are whining) This guy is my father.
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Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
March 06 2013 23:05 GMT
#35
On February 18 2013 08:01 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 05:13 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
The expectation that you should be able to post sob stories online and receive only pity and positive condolences is beyond wishful thinking.


why? why is it too much to hope for a helping hand if you're down on the ground, and instead get told "suck it up, other people have it worse in life"? people are allowed to ask for help, even if it's only mental support

This is the internet, not a support group.
Not everybody here is there to help other people.
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