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nimysa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:25:12
November 30 2010 04:24 GMT
#1
For an asian guy/Indian guy or generally someone from a minority to date an above average/really hot white girl? I mean all I see in the media and mainstream culture and such is that asians/Indians are asexual, non-masculine, or just weak and are fall on two different extremes, a) non-masculine, b) extremely-masculine. The common opinion is that an average white guy can score with a really hot chick of any race, while the average person from a minority can't unless they are very masculine or high value. Just how much truth is there to this? From your personal experience, how true or false is this stereotype?

I've also heard thats it harder for someone from said minority race to date girls in/from Eastern European/Scandinavian nations, again how much truth and validity is in this?

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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:36:22
November 30 2010 04:31 GMT
#2
Hmm were from my experience there is a guy in my department who is Indian who all the girls seem to have the hots for and most of them are white. I don't think its really a problem for Asian/Indian Americans born here but those who have grown up in their countries and then come here might have some trouble. So it may be a cultural thing.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
November 30 2010 04:34 GMT
#3
its the funny accent. born here no problem.
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qzmpwxno
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Papua New Guinea152 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:45:57
November 30 2010 04:34 GMT
#4
i think its just that white guys seem more outgoing and/or friendly and/or charming. not to condone this assumption but most girls are either looking for a good time or a good soul mate. for the latter they usually choose the white candy and for the former they prefer dark chocolate

on a more serious note, i think most girls think asian guys are too stuck up or not willing to look outside of their own race or something when it comes to potential mates...
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 30 2010 04:35 GMT
#5
From personal experience talking to
(white) women, I would say it is definitely harder. Most of them have told me that they just don't find asian men attractive generally.

That said, I've also seen "high-value" asian/whatever guys get ridiculous amounts of ass, so it certainly isn't impossible, they're just gonna have to work harder.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9758 Posts
November 30 2010 04:36 GMT
#6
Unless there's a culture barrier in that the values of the respective people are different, no it isn't. Like asian people generally place higher value upon their studies than partners, whereas with caucasians it's generally opposite.

Also asian guys often find asian girls more attractive than white girls, so there's often little reason to go outside of their minority
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:46:46
November 30 2010 04:36 GMT
#7
The reality is it is harder. But it's not just society. Yes, media and mainstream culture projects a negative stereotype to Asian guys. However, it's not as bad as you think and it's changing, I see more Asian male / non-Asian female couples around more. In old movies, you'd never see Asian guys being the lead and their romantic interests be non-Asians but look here: Asian ninja makes out with Kate Bosworth - good for Hollywood, and stereotype is dying one movie at a time.

The real reason it's "harder" is because lots of Asian guys feed into this stereotype and whine about it constantly instead of just being secure and going for it. Take some responsibility. Seriously, changing stereotypes and racial perceptions starts one person at a time. Tomorrow go ask out some girl, doesn't matter which race, and don't psychoanalyze your chances or handicaps or whatever because Hollywood doesn't let Jackie Chan kiss the girl or whatever in Shanghai Noon. Screw that.

Can't speak about Scandanavia but from experience, it's 90% in your head. If you are insecure about this your peers and the girls will notice, and that will make it harder for you. If you're not "asexual, non-masculine, or weak" please act like it.

On November 30 2010 13:24 nimysa wrote:
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The common opinion is that an average white guy can score with a really hot chick of any race, while the average person from a minority can't unless they are very masculine or high value.
...

This is some bullshit to justify failure. The next time you see an "average" white guy with a hot girlfriend, it's not because he's white. That's you attributing your feelings of inadequacy in your race, and it's a very unhealthy mindset to have.

edit: I am Chinese. I have dated white girls. They are not particularly "harder to get" than Asian girls. In fact I'd say it's easier because there's simply more of them, and most Asian guys just don't approach them so it seems harder. Nothing against Asian girls, but whenever I see an Asian dude with a non-Asian girl I always feel a bit of happiness that the stereotype is breaking bit by bit and I am really happy for him.
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news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
November 30 2010 04:43 GMT
#8
Not true about eastern european girls. I come from there and I can vouch those will go out with anyone (eastern european means they are fobs, right? Because born here they would be unrecognizable). It's weird but some of them are really materialistic, some - obscurely romantic. I've seen these 20-year-olds date black dudes and indians (not US born) over 40, most end up dating other fobs (brazilians, puerto ricans) I know for a fact they wouldn't mind dating a hot or a well-off asian guy, just hard to speak from experience because I don't see a lot of asians around where I live. Seen hot white girls with asian guys in Boston many times though.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 04:48:25
November 30 2010 04:46 GMT
#9
it's all culture

over here i've seen lots of attractive white girls date asian guys, because the area is literally like 75% asian. if asians are less common, it's harder for a white chick to like the asian since she doesn't really know much about him. however where i live race doesn't matter that much anymore. a good example is my friend, he went to a private school for like 5 years and the school was 95% white (he's asian). when he came to a public school he couldn't stand asian chicks, but as time progressed he started to like them more.

but don't blame your race for the reason a hot white chick is going out with a average white guy. as far as relationships are concerned i honestly believe that any match is compatible.
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
November 30 2010 04:46 GMT
#10
On November 30 2010 13:36 seRapH wrote:
Also asian guys often find asian girls more attractive than white girls, so there's often little reason to go outside of their minority


I'm not asian but most of my asian friends would love to date a good-looking white girl, some do. White girls are almost as tasty to asians as they are to blacks.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-30 05:00:31
November 30 2010 04:57 GMT
#11
Stop believing media and films when it comes to relationships, dating etc. It's all bullshit, the scripters just know a working formula to make films.

White may certainly be considered better looking for the average american, tall too, muscular, classy and bad-boy with king arthur jaw line and with an elephant penis. The fact is everybody as a different set of cards in this area, so play with what you have and don't look at what you may want to make your life somewhat "easier".

The truth is... anyway it really doesn't matter much as long as you bring personality into the line. It will only make a difference if you rely on your look only to date women, in that case yes you may be less picked than white men but who gives a shit. Deal with who you are, be comfortable about it first and then bring personality to the table without a second thought about not looking like Brad Pitt.

Just rewatch movies like fight club, and piss on such bullshit society and medias try to make you believe in.

Also this guy speak truth on the same subject :

On November 30 2010 13:36 Hot_Bid wrote:
The reality is it is harder. But it's not just society. Yes, media and mainstream culture projects a negative stereotype to Asian guys. However, it's not as bad as you think and it's changing, I see more Asian male / non-Asian female couples around more. In old movies, you'd never see Asian guys being the lead and their romantic interests be non-Asians but look here: Asian ninja makes out with Kate Bosworth - good for Hollywood, and stereotype is dying one movie at a time.

The real reason it's "harder" is because lots of Asian guys feed into this stereotype and whine about it constantly instead of just being secure and going for it. Take some responsibility. Seriously, changing stereotypes and racial perceptions starts one person at a time. Tomorrow go ask out some girl, doesn't matter which race, and don't psychoanalyze your chances or handicaps or whatever because Hollywood doesn't let Jackie Chan kiss the girl or whatever in Shanghai Noon. Screw that.

Can't speak about Scandanavia but from experience, it's 90% in your head. If you are insecure about this your peers and the girls will notice, and that will make it harder for you. If you're not "asexual, non-masculine, or weak" please act like it.

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On November 30 2010 13:24 nimysa wrote:
...
The common opinion is that an average white guy can score with a really hot chick of any race, while the average person from a minority can't unless they are very masculine or high value.
...

This is some bullshit to justify failure. The next time you see an "average" white guy with a hot girlfriend, it's not because he's white. That's you attributing your feelings of inadequacy in your race, and it's a very unhealthy mindset to have.

edit: I am Chinese. I have dated white girls. They are not particularly "harder to get" than Asian girls. In fact I'd say it's easier because there's simply more of them, and most Asian guys just don't approach them so it seems harder. Nothing against Asian girls, but whenever I see an Asian dude with a non-Asian girl I always feel a bit of happiness that the stereotype is breaking bit by bit and I am really happy for him.

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news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
November 30 2010 05:02 GMT
#12
Just look at all the hideous, ugly white/black/latino guys with hot girlfriends and ask yourself if their looks mattered in the slightest. Because they didn't.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
November 30 2010 05:04 GMT
#13
attractive people find attractive people appealing. I don't think it has anything to do with race unless they are just radically racist.

White girls will dig hot Asians just the way anybody digs attractive looking people. White girls that say they don't like Asian guys have probably never seen an attractive Asian guy. That's all.
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Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
November 30 2010 05:08 GMT
#14
Yes, it is. Although some of the statistics there suggest that fact is more about the white girls than the minority guys.
nimysa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States383 Posts
November 30 2010 05:53 GMT
#15
Hot_Bid good point although I wasn't exclusively referring to Asians, I was referring to Indians and other minority races, but still your point still stands, as does everyone else's. Any more opinions on my second question though?
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
November 30 2010 06:09 GMT
#16
Its true, its much significantly harder for a Asian to pick up white chicks because usually they are afraid that their parents might frown about their choice for a spouse. However, white women are often, not aways, attracted to minority guys. Many times, the major problem lies in the fact that many minority guys feel too insecure that they wouldn't even ask the girl they like out on a date. If you really want a white girl, you need to assert yourself. That is the only way you can overcome your disadvantage.

I once had a Asian teacher (guy) who had a really hot white wife. So it isn't impossible. You shouldn't let the odds discourage you. Who knows, maybe being apart of the minority may give you the advantage in the long run.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
November 30 2010 06:12 GMT
#17
I think Indians should be fine. It's east asians that have the negative stereotype attached to them.

One thing I thought was interesting was that among interracial couples among whites and blacks there are a lot more black-male/white-female than white-male/black-female.

I would think females are generally less suprerficial than males, as in they don't care about race or looks as much as males do.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
November 30 2010 06:15 GMT
#18
My Indian friend gets with all kinds of girls and it's really just about how present yourself imho.

As far as the yellow team, I'm not sure, but there definitely is that negative stigma.
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Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
November 30 2010 06:37 GMT
#19
I find the real cultural sadness in this thread is that its about trying to "get a really hot girl".
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
November 30 2010 06:41 GMT
#20
Its all a load of bollocks when it comes to women. Either she likes your company enough to want to go out with you or not.

Chatting up a random woman ofc depends on your looks 1st, if you look good you look good if you don't your chances are less.

Confidence goes a long way. Every/any girl that shots you down cos of your colour is a girl you don't want in the long run so you win overall and they lose cos your awesome(aren't you!).

I'm the most h8'd colour on the planet atm and I have no problems chatting to white girls and can tell you that most women are pc and its just whether your actually attractive/fun that will get you the date; if you are one/either/both of those things the woman will go out with you. Be happy/chilled in your life and women will pick up on it and want you even more.
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