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On January 14 2011 09:41 Haemonculus wrote: Somewhat on topic:
Two of my past boyfriends have shown me their entire porn collection, and I was amazed at how crazy well organized it was. The first guy was a bit of a book nerd, so I assumed it was just an eccentricity of his. The second time though, I sorta figured it was a trend. Do all guys organize their porn? I mean, it was organized by category, and then inside those folders, organized by actress. I was kinda amazed, lol.
Alllll my shit is just plopped into a giant folder on my old laptop, (as I don't care how many viruses it gets now) I never actually store porn on my computer anymore since the rise of the streaming sites. Even back when I did have porn, I never really organized it. I just threw it all in a folder and that was about it.
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On January 14 2011 11:23 Khenra wrote: My ex was ok with me watching porn, but she was uneasy with me masturbating to other women I know. I thought that was an extremely strange request as it limits what I can actually think about...
What do you guys think?
my gf would object if i masterbated thinking about girls i knew, like past ex gfs or her friends. she accepted the idea of me watching porn and we got past the issue. we have amazing sex (we get each other off mulitple times in one session) and i think beginning to watch porn again has helped me realize how special my gf is in a way (i'd rather not go into details) where i can be more passionate and enjoy the passion in sex with love that is missing in watching porn and masterbating alone.
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On January 14 2011 08:40 Raeleigh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 07:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:On January 14 2011 05:04 Raeleigh wrote: Well, I've talked to my boyfriend about watching Porn, actually. Haha.
I guess I generally had the same thing to say. Conversation was me basically being like "You have porn on your computer?" and he was all "No, and if I did, you wouldn't be able to find it." And I was all "OMG SO YOU DO otherwise you wouldn't say that!" Anyway, I got him to admit what he was interested in, and that he does have it on his computer xD I asked him when the last time he touched himself was and he said it wasn't for a while. xD I believed him 100%. Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. xD Awkward conversation ftw. It was cute though. =3
But I told him, I'm okay if he watches it. I just said, I'd prefer that you didn't, because you have me. So, kinda like what your girlfriend said, except she seems a lot more extreme.
Best thing I can say, is just try new things. Have sex in different places. =P Idk! If you do the same thing over and over, it will get repetitive, obviously.
My boyfriend said he likes to try new things, so. ^____________^ Yay. I can point out at least 3 situations in the short non-detailed story of yours, where he lied. And I assume you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? Makes sense. Cause that's the only way you would know differently than I do. Obviously. Sorry, but no. I'd appreciate it if you didn't indirectly call my boyfriend a liar.
No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to.
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On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 08:40 Raeleigh wrote:On January 14 2011 07:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:On January 14 2011 05:04 Raeleigh wrote: Well, I've talked to my boyfriend about watching Porn, actually. Haha.
I guess I generally had the same thing to say. Conversation was me basically being like "You have porn on your computer?" and he was all "No, and if I did, you wouldn't be able to find it." And I was all "OMG SO YOU DO otherwise you wouldn't say that!" Anyway, I got him to admit what he was interested in, and that he does have it on his computer xD I asked him when the last time he touched himself was and he said it wasn't for a while. xD I believed him 100%. Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. xD Awkward conversation ftw. It was cute though. =3
But I told him, I'm okay if he watches it. I just said, I'd prefer that you didn't, because you have me. So, kinda like what your girlfriend said, except she seems a lot more extreme.
Best thing I can say, is just try new things. Have sex in different places. =P Idk! If you do the same thing over and over, it will get repetitive, obviously.
My boyfriend said he likes to try new things, so. ^____________^ Yay. I can point out at least 3 situations in the short non-detailed story of yours, where he lied. And I assume you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? Makes sense. Cause that's the only way you would know differently than I do. Obviously. Sorry, but no. I'd appreciate it if you didn't indirectly call my boyfriend a liar. No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to.
Take for example the way he replied to your first question:
+ Show Spoiler +Scene: You’re at a bar with your girlfriend and one of her female friends. It’s just past dusk and the crowd is small. Your girlfriend is animatedly talking with her friend while you are holding court with some cute girl sitting across the bar, shouting jokes back and forth at each other and with the bartender. You are mentally and groinally stimulated by the sight of the new girl and the fleeting thoughts that pollute your brain of seeing her naked. An hour later, the new girl walks over and sits right beside you on an adjacent bar stool, on the side of you that is facing away from your girlfriend and her friend. The new girl leans into your ear and quietly asks if the girl you came with is your girlfriend. You are able to answer her out of earshot of your girlfriend.
Which of the following answers is most likely to earn the respect of the new girl?
a. “Yes, she is my girlfriend.” Firmly said.
b. “No, she’s not my girlfriend.” A lie, but still firmly said.
c. “Um, yeah sorta, we’ve been dating. Not sure how serious it is.” You hesitate for a pregnant second before answering somewhat sheepishly, hoping that your diffidence will leave the door open for further pursuit and possible hooking up with the new girl.
Second question. Which of the above answers is most likely to earn the gina tingle of the new girl?
First, the answer to the second question is the same as the answer to the first question. A woman’s respect is identical to her sexuality, for a woman will feel no lust for a man she does not respect, and she will feel no respect, in anything but the most abstractly and pointlessly arid way, for a man she does not desire.
Even if (c) is the closest answer to the truth, it is the farthest answer from what you think will help you fulfill your goal. If it is clandestine banging with fresh meat* you want, you will have more success answering (a) or (b) than you would equivocating your way through answer (c). For it is not the truth value of a statement that alerts a woman’s nether furrow that she is in the company of a man with an RSVP to her womb, but rather the boldness with which the statement is delivered.
The above sounds counterintuitive to some of you. I know, because for the longest while, it did to me. How can telling an interested and curious new girl that your company is your lover move you any closer to a tryst than hinting to her that your company knows you in a complicated way but you are essentially open to cheating?
Roissy Maxim #856: Swear by the HipandCooter oath: First, use no logic.
Please set aside your woefully inadequate male logic when attempting to predict the direction of a woman’s rationalization hamster. That little critter will always razzle dazzle your feeble efforts. You must think like the hamster if you want to influence the hamster. Be the hamster. The wheel is waiting.
Let’s examine each answer in detail.
a. “Yes, she is my girlfriend.”
Don’t for a minute think this closes the door to a future rendezvous. Since when have proclamations of fidelity by an alpha male, on their own, ever stopped a woman from pursuing her desire for him? No, the man himself, by his actions, must stay her hand and steady her flirtations. See: Tiger Woods. A man must, in other words, direct and lead not only his own actions, but the actions of the women in his orbit. A simple declaration that he has a girlfriend, curt and perfunctory, will only fuel a woman’s desire for him if his words are belied by his seductively charming warm smile and teasing banter. As all good seducers know, such unspoken mixed signals are the match to a woman’s tinderbox. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue, and rationalization is the tribute guilty ginas pay to alpha cock.
b. “No, she’s not my girlfriend.”
Girls don’t like men who lie. Except when they do like them. Moral of the story? Don’t worry so much about not lying. Concern yourself first with winning a woman’s attraction. She’ll rationalize away the lies in the post-coital glow. If, after you have lied, you are later caught snuggling with your girlfriend in the bar, you have just upped your chances of bedding the inquisitive new girl.
c. “Um, yeah sorta, we’ve been dating. Not sure how serious it is.”
And here we arrive at the most beta answer. What you think she hears: “Hey, I’m dating someone super casual-like but I’m not sure she’s ‘the one’. Which means I’m totally available for dating you.” Sounds like a winning answer, eh Lothario? What she actually hears: “I’m a wishy-washy beta who’s dating a girl out of convenience and I’m hoping you could be the next girl I date out of convenience.”
It is said of blind patriots that they follow “my country, right or wrong.” Well, for women, it’s “my alpha, right or wrong.” And what is a defining characteristic of alphaness? Boldness. Women love bold men, right or wrong. Women hate squirrelly men, like a man who would hesitate before weakly and apologetically confirming that the girl sitting right next to him is indeed his girlfriend. Boldness does not necessarily mean abandoning those other alpha traits that women so love, such as sly ambiguity and evocative mystery. But it does mean making sure you are never caught with the cat firmly holding your tongue.
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On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 08:40 Raeleigh wrote:On January 14 2011 07:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:On January 14 2011 05:04 Raeleigh wrote: Well, I've talked to my boyfriend about watching Porn, actually. Haha.
I guess I generally had the same thing to say. Conversation was me basically being like "You have porn on your computer?" and he was all "No, and if I did, you wouldn't be able to find it." And I was all "OMG SO YOU DO otherwise you wouldn't say that!" Anyway, I got him to admit what he was interested in, and that he does have it on his computer xD I asked him when the last time he touched himself was and he said it wasn't for a while. xD I believed him 100%. Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. xD Awkward conversation ftw. It was cute though. =3
But I told him, I'm okay if he watches it. I just said, I'd prefer that you didn't, because you have me. So, kinda like what your girlfriend said, except she seems a lot more extreme.
Best thing I can say, is just try new things. Have sex in different places. =P Idk! If you do the same thing over and over, it will get repetitive, obviously.
My boyfriend said he likes to try new things, so. ^____________^ Yay. I can point out at least 3 situations in the short non-detailed story of yours, where he lied. And I assume you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? Makes sense. Cause that's the only way you would know differently than I do. Obviously. Sorry, but no. I'd appreciate it if you didn't indirectly call my boyfriend a liar. No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. I understand the argument you guys are trying to make but it's a little extreme. You're hearing a retelling of the situation from her point of view. If there were any subtleties in the "male communication" they would have been lost because she wouldn't have recounted them. You don't know her boyfriend; you're simply making assumptions.
This isn't a useful discussion.
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My girlfriend always thinks I am watching porn when I seem to be free of tasks. I am not sure why. I don't actually watch it 24/7.
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i got a couple of good ol' porn clips hidden somewhere in my system32 folder ... time to check them out lol
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On January 14 2011 16:13 Inori wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 07:04 decafchicken wrote:On January 14 2011 04:36 LazyMacro wrote:On January 13 2011 18:19 Licmyobelisk wrote:Okay since this thread is resolved: I would like to trade some knowledge regarding chick porn stars.. So usually I want to know who's hot right now? I'm beginning to feel that my knowledge for the past few years have been stale. All know who are hot is sasha grey, bree olsen, brooke banner (she looks like she's been wasted now ) Alexis Texas etc. do you know any new and up coming stars? because all of the above I've provided are kinda stale now a days. I also like women who does interracial scenes since I consider myself black (no kidding man) Tori Black Jenna Haze Kina Kai Jessica Valentino Halia Hill Asa Akira I'm pretty sure all those girls have been torn up enough to drive a truck through there various orifices. hardly new and up coming. <insert coming pun here> Hayden Winters has gained popularity lately.
really? she's not that hot..
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On January 13 2011 07:18 Haemonculus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 07:14 Frits wrote:On January 13 2011 06:30 Haemonculus wrote: She sounds really insecure.
Does she like, not masturbate herself? Wtf? porn is the issue, not masturbation But surely she browses some form of erotic material to get herself in the mood... yes?
Or maybe the OP knows how to turn a girl on.
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On January 14 2011 17:24 holynorth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2011 07:18 Haemonculus wrote:On January 13 2011 07:14 Frits wrote:On January 13 2011 06:30 Haemonculus wrote: She sounds really insecure.
Does she like, not masturbate herself? Wtf? porn is the issue, not masturbation But surely she browses some form of erotic material to get herself in the mood... yes? Or maybe the OP knows how to turn a girl on. I meant when she's alone. The quote tree conveyed that, no?
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On January 14 2011 13:51 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:On January 14 2011 08:40 Raeleigh wrote:On January 14 2011 07:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:On January 14 2011 05:04 Raeleigh wrote: Well, I've talked to my boyfriend about watching Porn, actually. Haha.
I guess I generally had the same thing to say. Conversation was me basically being like "You have porn on your computer?" and he was all "No, and if I did, you wouldn't be able to find it." And I was all "OMG SO YOU DO otherwise you wouldn't say that!" Anyway, I got him to admit what he was interested in, and that he does have it on his computer xD I asked him when the last time he touched himself was and he said it wasn't for a while. xD I believed him 100%. Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. xD Awkward conversation ftw. It was cute though. =3
But I told him, I'm okay if he watches it. I just said, I'd prefer that you didn't, because you have me. So, kinda like what your girlfriend said, except she seems a lot more extreme.
Best thing I can say, is just try new things. Have sex in different places. =P Idk! If you do the same thing over and over, it will get repetitive, obviously.
My boyfriend said he likes to try new things, so. ^____________^ Yay. I can point out at least 3 situations in the short non-detailed story of yours, where he lied. And I assume you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? Makes sense. Cause that's the only way you would know differently than I do. Obviously. Sorry, but no. I'd appreciate it if you didn't indirectly call my boyfriend a liar. No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. I understand the argument you guys are trying to make but it's a little extreme. You're hearing a retelling of the situation from her point of view. If there were any subtleties in the "male communication" they would have been lost because she wouldn't have recounted them. You don't know her boyfriend; you're simply making assumptions. This isn't a useful discussion.
Most males aren't subtle.
The guys wishy washy way of answering questions isn't subtle. It's misdirection sure but a girlfriend is less likely to see it for two main reasions.
1. She doesn't care or 2. It's what she wants to hear.
I think every male on the planet has employed this tactic on a question you know is a delicate subject yes?
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On January 14 2011 20:28 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 13:51 Durak wrote:On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:On January 14 2011 08:40 Raeleigh wrote:On January 14 2011 07:32 ZlaSHeR wrote:On January 14 2011 05:04 Raeleigh wrote: Well, I've talked to my boyfriend about watching Porn, actually. Haha.
I guess I generally had the same thing to say. Conversation was me basically being like "You have porn on your computer?" and he was all "No, and if I did, you wouldn't be able to find it." And I was all "OMG SO YOU DO otherwise you wouldn't say that!" Anyway, I got him to admit what he was interested in, and that he does have it on his computer xD I asked him when the last time he touched himself was and he said it wasn't for a while. xD I believed him 100%. Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. xD Awkward conversation ftw. It was cute though. =3
But I told him, I'm okay if he watches it. I just said, I'd prefer that you didn't, because you have me. So, kinda like what your girlfriend said, except she seems a lot more extreme.
Best thing I can say, is just try new things. Have sex in different places. =P Idk! If you do the same thing over and over, it will get repetitive, obviously.
My boyfriend said he likes to try new things, so. ^____________^ Yay. I can point out at least 3 situations in the short non-detailed story of yours, where he lied. And I assume you know my boyfriend better than I do, right? Makes sense. Cause that's the only way you would know differently than I do. Obviously. Sorry, but no. I'd appreciate it if you didn't indirectly call my boyfriend a liar. No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. I understand the argument you guys are trying to make but it's a little extreme. You're hearing a retelling of the situation from her point of view. If there were any subtleties in the "male communication" they would have been lost because she wouldn't have recounted them. You don't know her boyfriend; you're simply making assumptions. This isn't a useful discussion. Most males aren't subtle. The guys wishy washy way of answering questions isn't subtle. It's misdirection sure but a girlfriend is less likely to see it for two main reasions. 1. She doesn't care or 2. It's what she wants to hear. I think every male on the planet has employed this tactic on a question you know is a delicate subject yes?
Well, I'd say that this part:
Anyway, I asked him if he ever watches it or anything and he said no. is more than likely a lie. Unless I somehow misunderstood it. First he denys that there is any porn on his PC, then admits that there is [and its implied that its hidden well] but he doesn't watch it. Seroiusly? He has hidden porn on his PC, knows of its existance, but doesn't watch it?
I can't spot the other two 'lies,' though. I would guess 'not for a while' would be one, but I could believe that...
and then I guess the third lie would be the one that she cought herself? The initial question? Whatever.
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I found the best answer when my gf asked me if i watch porn was to say "hell yeah i love porn i watch it like 3x a day!!" she figured i was joking/exaggerating and just laughed....little does she know heheh
honesty is the best policy..sometimes
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Maybe she just doesn't find it attractive that you jerk off to other women in front of your computer?
Wouldn't it be more sexy if you used your own imagination, you dirty boy? Think about it: You're in bed... You begin caressing yourself. Slowly. Gently. You feel your muscles bulging beneath your shirt. Touch them. Don't be shy. Feel them as they bulge. Deeper and deeper as you breathing becomes more and more heavy. You dream of a certain beautyful lady squeezing your firm, manly buttocks. Oh, the sensation! You're suddenly getting moist. Her hands are everywhere. God, is she really touching you there!?! Aiiii! "Please, mistress, not there!". RAMPAGE!!! Mmmm. Ooooh, yeah that's the spot. Do it. Dirty boy. Do it. Moar. MOAR! - Yessssss.... Like that?
Just trying to establish a certain perspective here. All in good sport.
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On January 15 2011 02:49 Dieoxhide wrote: Maybe she just doesn't find it attractive that you jerk off to other women in front of your computer?
Wouldn't it be more sexy if you used your own imagination, you dirty boy? Think about it: You're in bed... You begin caressing yourself. Slowly. Gently. You feel your muscles bulging beneath your shirt. Touch them. Don't be shy. Feel them as they bulge. Deeper and deeper as you breathing becomes more and more heavy. You dream of a certain beautyful lady squeezing your firm, manly buttocks. Oh, the sensation! You're suddenly getting moist. Her hands are everywhere. God, is she really touching you there!?! Aiiii! "Please, mistress, not there!". RAMPAGE!!! Mmmm. Ooooh, yeah that's the spot. Do it. Dirty boy. Do it. Moar. MOAR! - Yessssss.... Like that?
Just trying to establish a certain perspective here. All in good sport.
this made me lol so hard
using the imagination is hard work
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On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote: No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. You're an idiot if you think you know what my boyfriend, whom I know better than anyone here might I add, is thinking. I'd appreciate it if you weren't such a dick. -shrug- Also, I didn't read any of your bullshit in the spoiler tag. Waste of time.
Edit: Am I allowed to say the c word? I felt bad so I changed it. lol.
On January 14 2011 13:51 Durak wrote: I understand the argument you guys are trying to make but it's a little extreme. You're hearing a retelling of the situation from her point of view. If there were any subtleties in the "male communication" they would have been lost because she wouldn't have recounted them. You don't know her boyfriend; you're simply making assumptions.
This isn't a useful discussion. Thank you very much.
Just because most of you guys are male, I understand that you know how a guys mind works better than I do. But, yet again, as I always bring up, not everyone is the same. Just cause one guy doesn't cry and is too many to do so doesn't mean another one won't. Just because half of you guys lie to your girlfriends about how often you touch yourself and how often you watch porn doesn't mean everyone else does too.
I pride myself on the fact that the relationship I have with my boyfriend is different than the others I've had, because I'm 100% comfortable with him, and trust him with absolutely everything. He has told me that he feels the same way, as is completely honest with me, even if it's not something I want to hear. I appreciate that he is this honest with me.
I don't think it's fair that I have guys telling me that my boyfriend is lying and that they, who have never met him, know him better than I do.
I'm sorry I don't remember exactly how it happened and that I didn't post OMG PERFECTNESS ABOUT THE CONVERSATION! Again, randomly asking someone, "How often do you watch porn or touch yourself? :D" it a bit random. I'm pretty sure it caught him by surprise. -shrug- If you don't care, no point in responding like a bitch.
On January 14 2011 21:05 Crazyeyes wrote:Well, I'd say that this part: is more than likely a lie. Unless I somehow misunderstood it. First he denys that there is any porn on his PC, then admits that there is [and its implied that its hidden well] but he doesn't watch it. Seroiusly? He has hidden porn on his PC, knows of its existance, but doesn't watch it? I can't spot the other two 'lies,' though. I would guess 'not for a while' would be one, but I could believe that... and then I guess the third lie would be the one that she cought herself? The initial question? Whatever. You guys are extremely ridiculous. I honestly don't see the point in you pointing out the fact that my boyfriend is lying. It's almost a bit rude, to be saying something like this, and basically letting me know that he's lying. Almost kinda home-wreckerish, isn't it?
In any case, I have porn on my computer. Do I watch it? Nope. I haven't in almost 4 years. If you met my boyfriend, and got to know him, you'd believe what he said as well. /shrug Simple as that.
Thanks d-bags! ♥
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My two cents since I haven't said anything yet:
While guys may understand the general male mind, that doesn't mean Rae's boyfriend is therefore lying. Furthermore, constantly telling her he's lying without merit or justification is pretty much bullshit.
While I do think it's suspicious he initially told Rae he doesn't watch it, then admits to the contrary, it was probably just a white lie, or a half truth. For example, maybe he doesn't currently watch it, but would if he were single. That's how I was when I was with my ex. I had no desire to watch porn then at all. Had she asked if I watch it, I would've said no, too, despite having a large quantity of it on my HDD at home and having watched a lot before I met her.
Basically, who gives a shit. If she trusts him, she trusts him.
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