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I'm not trying to point out anything that isn't obvious to every guy on teamliquid. From his first statement of, even if he did have it you'd never find it, it means he's the type of guy who has saved porn on his computer in the past. To suggest that he's never looked at it since the day he started dating you would be extreme.
I don't think calling us names and using the profanity is necessary when we're just pointing out what would seem to be quite obvious, even if you don't agree with it, you can say it constructively. Nobody here is trying to be a homewrecker, that would technically be a girl who is trying to split you two up for personal gain, but nobody is here to steal your boyfriend from you.
Even if you have it on your computer and don't watch it that doesn't free your bf from doing that. He is a guy, we, as guys, know how guys think just like you are more likely to know how girls think than us in this blog.
We don't need to call you any weird names because it takes away from the argument and really makes an argument look weak if you feel the need to resort to that.
I'm not calling you an idiot or saying that your boyfriend is a liar like Tony Campolo was saying, but judging from what you said that he stated personally, and the fact that he has a dick, two balls, testosterone, and a brain, the likeliness that he was spitting 100% truth is very unlikely.
Doesn't mean he can't be telling the truth, you can find out yourself, search folder, pictures and videos, find some, right click properties, last modified, done.
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On January 15 2011 08:31 LazyMacro wrote:
that doesn't mean Rae's boyfriend is therefore lying. Furthermore, constantly telling her he's lying without merit or justification is pretty much bullshit.
I completely agree, did so when I made my post as well, it doesn't mean he's lying 100%, nobody knows that but the guy himself, but her justification for her reasoning compared to ours is no more reasonable.
I suppose in the end its not worth arguing, so its fine.
On January 14 2011 09:41 Haemonculus wrote:
Somewhat on topic:
Two of my past boyfriends have shown me their entire porn collection, and I was amazed at how crazy well organized it was. The first guy was a bit of a book nerd, so I assumed it was just an eccentricity of his. The second time though, I sorta figured it was a trend. Do all guys organize their porn? I mean, it was organized by category, and then inside those folders, organized by actress. I was kinda amazed, lol.
Alllll my shit is just plopped into a giant folder on my old laptop, (as I don't care how many viruses it gets now)
I used to be much more organized about it lol, like one of the repliers said, it was similar to the situation where, in about 4-5 folders I could find exactly what I'm looking for.
Nowadays I care a lot less, Theres like two open folders with just everything stuffed in them, and then streaming folder with links to some good ones.
I guess ever since streaming sites got more popular, it became less needed to be organized, since all the organization is done with a search bar right?
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On January 15 2011 08:11 Raeleigh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:
No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. You're an idiot if you think you know what my boyfriend, whom I know better than anyone here might I add, is thinking. I'd appreciate it if you weren't such a dick. -shrug- Also, I didn't read any of your bullshit in the spoiler tag. Waste of time. Edit: Am I allowed to say the c word? I felt bad so I changed it. lol.
You're not allowed to personally insult users in general (including calling people idiots).
My advice to you is that you don't take defending your personal life on the internet so seriously  We don't know your boyfriend personally. We don't know you personally. We don't know how perceptive you are. But when you say generic things like 'OUR RELATIONSHIP IS HONEST AND HE TELLS ME THINGS EVEN IF I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM' you're really not helping the case you don't need to make in the first place.
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On January 15 2011 08:41 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 08:11 Raeleigh wrote:On January 14 2011 13:45 Tony Campolo wrote:
No, he simply understands men better than you do. You're an idiot if you think you can tell if your boyfriend is a liar or not. It would be the equivalent of a man with a girlfriend having no idea how she feels about certain things, which other women would easily be able to relate to. You're an idiot if you think you know what my boyfriend, whom I know better than anyone here might I add, is thinking. I'd appreciate it if you weren't such a dick. -shrug- Also, I didn't read any of your bullshit in the spoiler tag. Waste of time. Edit: Am I allowed to say the c word? I felt bad so I changed it. lol. You're not allowed to personally insult users in general (including calling people idiots). My advice to you is that you don't take defending your personal life on the internet so seriously We don't know your boyfriend personally. We don't know you personally. We don't know how perceptive you are. But when you say generic things like 'OUR RELATIONSHIP IS HONEST AND HE TELLS ME THINGS EVEN IF I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM' you're really not helping the case you don't need to make in the first place.
If someone insults me, I'll do the same thing back. You treat someone how you want to be treated. -shrug-
Lol, if I was taking this serious, there would be a lot less swearing and a lot more reason behind everything. Again, I just find it weird that random people on the internet have a better understanding of someone that I've spent more time with. Durrr.
On January 15 2011 08:31 ZlaSHeR wrote:I'm not trying to point out anything that isn't obvious to every guy on teamliquid. From his first statement of, even if he did have it you'd never find it, it means he's the type of guy who has saved porn on his computer in the past. To suggest that he's never looked at it since the day he started dating you would be extreme. I don't think calling us names and using the profanity is necessary when we're just pointing out what would seem to be quite obvious, even if you don't agree with it, you can say it constructively. Nobody here is trying to be a homewrecker, that would technically be a girl who is trying to split you two up for personal gain, but nobody is here to steal your boyfriend from you. Even if you have it on your computer and don't watch it that doesn't free your bf from doing that. He is a guy, we, as guys, know how guys think just like you are more likely to know how girls think than us in this blog. We don't need to call you any weird names because it takes away from the argument and really makes an argument look weak if you feel the need to resort to that. I'm not calling you an idiot or saying that your boyfriend is a liar like Tony Campolo was saying, but judging from what you said that he stated personally, and the fact that he has a dick, two balls, testosterone, and a brain, the likeliness that he was spitting 100% truth is very unlikely. Doesn't mean he can't be telling the truth, you can find out yourself, search folder, pictures and videos, find some, right click properties, last modified, done. edit: Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 08:31 LazyMacro wrote:
that doesn't mean Rae's boyfriend is therefore lying. Furthermore, constantly telling her he's lying without merit or justification is pretty much bullshit. I completely agree, did so when I made my post as well, it doesn't mean he's lying 100%, nobody knows that but the guy himself, but her justification for her reasoning compared to ours is no more reasonable. I suppose in the end its not worth arguing, so its fine.
I understand, like I've said, that a guy understands how a guys mind works better than I would.
But again, like I've said, you guys aren't all the same. There is no way you can know for sure. That's what I don't understand, is why you're making it seem like there's no other choice.
Also, my post wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Sorry if you did, but, LOL.I wouldn't ever make a serious post on TeamLiquid that was meant to offend. Sorry again!
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I'm not insulting you though, I have no ill-will but you do towards me. It's usually not how TL works, the reasoning of insulting others for disagreeing with you, for that there are many gaming communities that love doing that.
Theres a saying that everything that can be invented has been invented, that statement has as much ignorance as saying "Person X (regardless of a personal relationship with him) has never lied to me" because if he has, well, obviously you wouldn't know.
I don't say I have a better understanding of your boyfriend than you do, but I have more understanding of the psychosis of a 17-20 year old male than you do.
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On January 15 2011 08:47 ZlaSHeR wrote:
I'm not insulting you though, I have no ill-will but you do towards me. It's usually not how TL works, the reasoning of insulting others for disagreeing with you, for that there are many gaming communities that love doing that.
Theres a saying that everything that can be invented has been invented, that statement has as much ignorance as saying "Person X (regardless of a personal relationship with him) has never lied to me" because if he has, well, obviously you wouldn't know.
I don't say I have a better understanding of your boyfriend than you do, but I have more understanding of the psychosis of a 17-20 year old male than you do.
I never said you were insulting me. I wasn't even speaking about you or acknowledging you when I made my long post in response. /shrug
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Alright. Let's use some logic and reason here. *Refrains from sexist comment*
So, let's take a the hypothetical situation that, god fobid, your boyfriend jerks it and possibly to porn, just like 99%+ of all healthy guys on the planet many of whom are in a relationship. Now, you have made it clear that you DO NOT approve of him doing this. Now, if he stops immediately because he has total control over his desires, (lol) then everything is great, but let's delve into the situation that he DOES'T WANT TO (and possibly CAN NOT) simply just stop.
I'll merge the 2 questions into 1:
Girlfriend: "Do you jerk off when I'm not around and or do you watch porn"
If he answers yes, you will continue to nag/hassle/break up whatever you intend to do about it, or even keep nagging him until he says "he's stopped"
If he answers no, there's almost no way she'll find out and your relationship can continue on as normal.
So, to get to the point, there's almost zero chance that you asking him has any effect on anything except for your own peace of mind. Which is what counts, right? If you don't think he isn't and you don't find out it's like he's not. Which leads me to my main point: (because we could be getting him into big troubl lol)
WHY DO YOU FUCKING CARE? It's not like he's going to turn down sex because he saw some giant plastic boobs for 5 minutes the night before. Honestly, what drives you to control him in what he does when you're not around? He's your boyfriend; he's not your slave. If it doesn't affect you or your relationship in any way why does it matter, it's not like it has an harmful effects whatsoever. Seriously, do you not want him to eat chocolate? Because after all, chocolate releases dopamine, which is released in sex, so he doesn't need chocolate because he has you! Therefore, make sure he doesn't eat chocolate. Put a webcam in his bedroom to make sure.
What you seem to be arguing with Mr. Zlasher here is that you know him better, therefore you are right. You can only know someone to a degree, you can never truly know their mind .Therefore, you cannot be 100% certain about anything. That means statistically speaking you're wrong based on the number of guys that have porn and then computer and jerk it during a normal relationship. (maybe if you have sex more than once a day every day or something I dunno). This is because you asking him has no effect on anything because he will NEVER answer yes for both of your sakes because it will only lead to trouble. He doesn't want to struggle in the relationship because of some stupid bullshit. You're actually want to believe him as well because you don't want to struggle over some stupid bullshit. How about you just drop it and worry about things in life that actually matter? Thanks.
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Slayer91, what are you talking about? o_o
Or, who are you talking to?
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Specifically you, but any women who think that causing trouble over stupid shit like this is a good idea for their relationship. I haven't fully read yours and Zlashers posts but you seem to be dragging into a something that is irrelevant so I didn't feel the need to.
Oh, I tend to edit my posts since I reread my posts and end up adding more instead of using the damn preview button, so it may have seemed incoherent if you missed like half of it.
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I read it, my point exactly.
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On January 15 2011 09:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Specifically you, but any women who think that causing trouble over stupid shit like this is a good idea for their relationship. I haven't fully read yours and Zlashers posts but you seem to be dragging into a something that is irrelevant so I didn't feel the need to.
Oh, I tend to edit my posts since I reread my posts and end up adding more instead of using the damn preview button, so it may have seemed incoherent if you missed like half of it.
Lol, I'm not mad if my boyfriend watches porn or jacks off or anything. If he wants to, he's more than welcome to.
The basic point of everything was that I don't appreciate people saying my boyfriend is lying to me.
You really need to read the posts. If my boyfriend really wanted to watch porn, that's great for him. I understand there are things I don't have that he may want to see. No big deal. Like I've said to him, if he wants to, he can go for it, I'd just prefer he came to me instead for satisfaction. =P
I wasn't causing any trouble between me and my boyfriend about this at all. o: Our relationship rox some srs sox.
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I don't really see why it's such a big deal. I'm pretty sure most guys watch porn. Hell, *I* watch porn.
Obviously if I was dating a guy and he turned down sex for it, maybe I'd feel differently. "Nah babe mebbe later gonna whack it in front of the comp instead"
But when we're apart... why would I care? I'll likely be doing the same thing.
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On January 15 2011 09:14 Slayer91 wrote:
What you seem to be arguing with Mr. Zlasher here is that you know him better, therefore you are right. You can only know someone to a degree, you can never truly know their mind .Therefore, you cannot be 100% certain about anything. That means statistically speaking you're wrong based on the number of guys that have porn and then computer and jerk it during a normal relationship. (maybe if you have sex more than once a day every day or something I dunno). This is because you asking him has no effect on anything because he will NEVER answer yes for both of your sakes because it will only lead to trouble. He doesn't want to struggle in the relationship because of some stupid bullshit. You're actually want to believe him as well because you don't want to struggle over some stupid bullshit. How about you just drop it and worry about things in life that actually matter? Thanks.
Woah woah woah, I just read your post. Your ridiculous hospitality is absolutely not necessary.
Statistically, sure, I may be wrong.
The only point i'm making is, statistics or not, everyone is different. Meaning, sure, you guys could be right, and he's probably touching himself right now. But, you could also be wrong.
I've already accepted what you've said and already knew that males know a male mind better than I possibly could.
But, that doesn't mean that I don't know him better, that I don't know what he's thinking. This is what i'm trying to point out. I don't appreciate you guys calling my boyfriend a liar. That was my first problem, and the only problem I really had.
I don't think it's completely necessary for you to say something like " How about you just drop it and worry about things in life that actually matter? Thanks."
Maybe me and my boyfriend were having a problem, and maybe this did matter.
Every argument you have with someone will just further strengthen the relationship. :/
On January 15 2011 09:47 Haemonculus wrote:
I don't really see why it's such a big deal. I'm pretty sure most guys watch porn. Hell, *I* watch porn.
Obviously if I was dating a guy and he turned down sex for it, maybe I'd feel differently. "Nah babe mebbe later gonna whack it in front of the comp instead"
But when we're apart... why would I care? I'll likely be doing the same thing.
But I DON'T care. I've already said that.
Why is everyone making it sound like I'm SO ANGRY GRRR about him doing what he does? I'm not.
I'm just saying, I believe what he says when he says he doesn't, and I feel I know him well enough to know that he wouldn't.
Like I said, if he wanted to, that's perfectly fine. I'm not against it, at all.
My biggest problem was that people are basically saying, "Your boyfriend is lying."
It's not something I want to hear, especially when I am 100% sure it's not true.
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My post wasn't directed at you. I didn't think you had a problem with it, I was just throwing that out there, lol.
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On January 15 2011 09:58 Haemonculus wrote:
My post wasn't directed at you. I didn't think you had a problem with it, I was just throwing that out there, lol.
oh, okay. xD /highfive
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Okay, I think tensions are running pretty high so I'm going to be the buzzkiller and try to settle things down. In before I fuck it all up.
I think what this all comes down to is that a bunch of guys told Rae her boyfriend was full of shit because they, as guys, have an opinion of how guys are. Fine. But, Rae doesn't want to hear that her boyfriend is a liar, because she trusts him. So, she got defensive. Makes sense.
But now it's just a bunch of back and forth.
"He's lying."
"No, he's not."
"Yes, he is."
"No!"
"Ya huh!"
"Nuh uh!"
Shush. She trusts him. That's all that matters. The rest of us don't know, and we don't know her. We aren't a part of their relationship.
So whatever.
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On January 15 2011 08:43 Raeleigh wrote:
If someone insults me, I'll do the same thing back. You treat someone how you want to be treated. -shrug-
So what you're saying is you want to be insulted? Well, I am nothing if not a gentleman, so I shall do my best to oblige.
Madam, the matriarch of your family is so obese that the escape velocity at her surface exceeds 3x10^8 m/s.
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On January 15 2011 10:07 JackMcCoy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 08:43 Raeleigh wrote:
If someone insults me, I'll do the same thing back. You treat someone how you want to be treated. -shrug-
So what you're saying is you want to be insulted? Well, I am nothing if not a gentleman, so I shall do my best to oblige. Madam, the matriarch of your family is so obese that the escape velocity at her surface exceeds 3x10^8 m/s.
Oh you ;__; that hurt, man!
^_~
I was gonna point out about the whole "treat others how you want to be treated" cause if someone's rude to you
and then you're rude to them
then others are gonna be rude to you
you know?
XD
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I just realized I completely merged the OP girlfriend and Raeligh into one being. OK pretend I was responding to the OP's gf in open letter/rant --v
LOL
Anyway, your boyfriend is still probably lying. SUP!!
On January 15 2011 10:07 JackMcCoy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 08:43 Raeleigh wrote:
If someone insults me, I'll do the same thing back. You treat someone how you want to be treated. -shrug-
So what you're saying is you want to be insulted? Well, I am nothing if not a gentleman, so I shall do my best to oblige. Madam, the matriarch of your family is so obese that the escape velocity at her surface exceeds 3x10^8 m/s.
I'll bet you'd still like to be within her event horizon
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On January 15 2011 10:11 Slayer91 wrote:
I just realized I completely merged the OP girlfriend and Raeligh into one being. OK pretend I was responding to the OP's gf in open letter/rant --v
LOL
Anyway, your boyfriend is still probably lying. SUP!!
Nope sry case closed kthxbai.
I absolutely refuse to believe someone to was stupid enough to think I was the same person as the OPs girlfriend. GG
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Clearly the two of you need to perform some sort of ancient saiyan merging ritual and we can proceed from there.
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