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On January 08 2011 08:06 aidnai wrote:
Nemesis, two things concern me about your post. One, you left out some really important posts I made that are certainly not 'non-committal'. Two, you have no mention of orgolove, even though he's the top lynch candidate right now, he's the lynch I'm pushing, and he's the only other person that voted for me besides you. You say I "still seems to be trying to push suspicion onto Subversion based on the roleblock claim" which shows you read my analysis post of orgolove, so don't ignore it please.
However, I will not be deterred from the task at hand. Orgolove has posted again in the other game, so I know for a fact he's read my analysis and knows the votes are mounting over here. I'm having a hard time imagining a pro-town reason for not contributing to discussion in this thread, and not defending yourself from a lynch...
4 hours left? Votes so far:
orgolove/Flamewheel: 2.5
GMarshal (0.5)
Meapak_Ziphh
aidnai
aidnai/KingJames01: 2
orgolove
Nemesis
Subversion: 0
Meapak_Ziphh
Not yet voted: Subversion, Deconduo, TheMango (0.5)
I'm counting on you deconduo. TheMango, you heard anything from foolishness yet?
Well as to what I think about orgolove. Although, he has not really been helpful, it doesn't necessarily mean that he's scum.
Really, your only reason for voting him is because of being apologetic and how he's pointing out that town is at a disadvantage in the setup. I hardly find those strong reasons to lynch someone.
Also, there was no resistance at all when the bandwagon formed around him until my post which I find disconcerting.
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KJ made a mistake about the rules, that's all. I had the same wrong assumption as KJ actually (that subversion was claiming blue), until flamewheel pointed out that he could be green and still know he was blocked. I wish KJ would come back and post some more, both to clear us a little and because I want his take on a few players, but I know he's pretty busy...
Look at the rest of his posts too. When everyone was saying "not enough to analyze" or talking about lynching inactives, KJ was one of the first to post an analysis (of GM/Foolishness/mango). He also did his best (along with me) to avoid Beneather's lynch. No reason to do that as a scum...just afk ftw in that situation (I mean, beneather gave us all of five minutes to respond to his pre-death post).
Anyway, a defense coming from me won't mean much, so I'll leave it to you to figure out.
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United States1966 Posts
##Vote: Kingjames/aidinai
As stated in my previous post, I am pretty sure orgolove/flamewheel is not scum, so I'm voting for Kingjames/aidinai. Me and GMarshall are of differing opinions this time it seems. I have not been able to talk to Foolishness yet, but hopefully he will show up before the vote deadline is over. What happens if the votes are tied?
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United States1966 Posts
so deconduo and Subversion have yet to vote, and votes are tied at 2.5 for both Kingjames/aidinai and orgolove/Flamewheel
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##Vote Orgolove/Flamewheel
I feel orgolove is the scummier of the two, I hope I'm not wrong.
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## Vote Team 7
My partner has a pretty good read on this team so I'm going with this vote. When he comes back you can ask him to explain it for you.
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Yeah Ace and I are switching. I've decided to go back to my original analysis since voting orgolove hasn't really provoked any noticable response from him or his partner. I'm still undecided on KJ/Aidnai but an orgolove or a subversion lynch will be about the same in value in determining KJ/Aidnai's towness because both were called out by them.
##Unvote Orgolove/Flamewheel
##Vote Subversion/Incognito
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Meapak, you leave the votes tied. If/when subversion comes along and votes, where do you imagine his vote will go?
From my perspective, the two scum are between orgolove, nemesis, and subversion.
We have imo a stronger case against orgolove than anyone else.
If we wait on subversion and we get another roleblock claim, we either have both mafia caught lying or subversion is telling the truth.
I understand that I'm being scrutinized because I'm attracting attention. It happens to every town leader. But please, remember mafia don't want attention. They want to blend in...
Meapak, there's only two hours left, and it would be pretty miraculous if you were actually able to swing the vote to subversion. If you're gonna insist on voting for him instead of playing along with me, will you at least provide the pretty good read (on subversion) Ace told us about?
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Ace is actually a little behind the times, my "lead" was pretty much what I posted in the thread that most people ignored. I will go back to Orgo. I thought there was more time for the day but at this point my argument isn't going to catch and I don't want to risk someone I don't consider scummy being lynched. They'd better be red Aidnai.
##Unvote
##Vote orgolove/flamewheel
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
I'll help Meapak along in that since orgolove isn't around, and probably won't be for the foreseeable future. I'm not going to really lay it out, but take a look at Subversion's day 1 voting post. Take a look at his reasoning for the vote, and ask yourself if it makes sense.
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On January 08 2011 10:48 flamewheel wrote:
I'll help Meapak along in that since orgolove isn't around, and probably won't be for the foreseeable future. I'm not going to really lay it out, but take a look at Subversion's day 1 voting post. Take a look at his reasoning for the vote, and ask yourself if it makes sense.
Would you mind to elaborate on this?
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uh closing day. gimme a few minutes. Sorry about that, I thought Annul was supposed to count up votes because I had work.
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Hmm... subversion never even voted?
I'll give you a hint RoL, we lynched orgolove/flamewheel. I'm stuck hitting f5 until I find out if we got scum or not, so...wanna just flip him and skip the flavor text?
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Team 6: KingJames01/Aidnai - 2.5
Orgolove
Nemesis
TheMango
Team 9: Flamewheel/Orgolove - 3.5
Aidnai
Meapak_Ziphh
GMarshal
deconduo
Meapak_Ziphh
Team 7: Subversion/Incognito - 0
Meapak_ziphh
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Day over, team 9 to be lynched.
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On January 08 2011 12:52 aidnai wrote:
Hmm... subversion never even voted?
I'll give you a hint RoL, we lynched orgolove/flamewheel. I'm stuck hitting f5 until I find out if we got scum or not, so...wanna just flip him and skip the flavor text?
I am fine with that.
Night 2
Team 9: Orgolove/flamewheel have been lynched.
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Please send in night actions. Day ends 10pm EST/12:00 KST tomorrow.
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On January 08 2011 13:04 aidnai wrote:
FML
Ya'll in big trouble now boiiiiiii. It's lylo tomorrow (baring a medic save) so we had better make some headway tonight. I'm still all for lynching Subversion, even more so now.
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Ok, so, there's a 50/50 chance that we have a DT in our setup. If we have one PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check me, and help me out tomorrow.
I don't think I'll be killed tonight, since i'll be a lynch target tomorrow anyway. Remember, being wrong doesn't make me scum, and nothing I've done makes sense for scum.
Orgo let us down. I guess he didn't care about town winning this game, as I see it, he did have a responsibility to show up and DO SOMETHING to show he was town.
I guess meapak's concern about no one showing up to defend orgo was a good intuition. But on the flip side, when RoL accused me in Experimental mini, my mafia buddies completely ignored it. Even when it picked up steam, they did nothing. I only avoided the lynch because RoL was replaced and pandain (a townie) decided to defend me.
I'm going to halt town leadership activities for now. Someone else please step up, I don't even want to nominate someone. I think there's a good chance we have a DT, if I get checked i'll be clear in the morning.
Mafia still have a quandry on their hands with the roleblock thing. If they roleblocked subversion, they cannot use their roleblock on anyone else without proving subversion's innocence. If subversion is mafia, they don't have a roleblock anyway to stop a DT from checking me. So I'm hopeful...
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
gg.
On January 08 2011 13:26 aidnai wrote:
Orgo let us down. I guess he didn't care about town winning this game, as I see it, he did have a responsibility to show up and DO SOMETHING to show he was town.
Don't blame your ineptitude on my actions. I've posted enough to show what I thought, and my interpretations of the events. It is on you for not heeding my words.
And it's poor form to shittalk on someone who technically won't be able to respond to anything, as per the rules.
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Orgolove you walked in here and said "I have more important things in life than to play stupid internet games so don't vote for me I've made my case" when you really hadn't. I wouldn't blame this lynch on the town I'd blame it on a player who gave up. While it may be poor form to talk to you when you can't respond, you did come in here and call the town inept because you got lynched so I feel compelled to point out that it really wasn't the towns fault.
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