On September 07 2010 19:48 vek wrote: I prefer my Motorola Droid over the iPhone because it has a physical keyboard and a better screen. It is great being able to answer emails quickly while I am on the train or bus for work and the big screen is awesome for watching BW vods and playing games occasionally.
Some people love apps and others don't... me personally I don't get the point of most of them but it comes down to personal choice.
There are decent SNES emulators for Android now also if you are into that. The keyboard/touch controls aren't really good enough to play SF2 or anything like that but I had fun playing through FF4 again and they were more than good enough for that.
I also love the integration Android has with google apps (gmail, contacts, calendar, docs etc). It's pretty good on iPhone too but I found it a lot smoother on Android.
Does the US have multi touch for Android yet or are there still legal issues? That could be another thing to consider. I couldn't live without being able to multi touch zoom websites etc.
Edit: Also not having to be a slave to iTunes and being able to just drag and drop my music/videos is a huge plus in my book, I hate iTunes more than anything because it is a bloated piece of trash. I completely forgot about that...
Edit 2: About a week ago Epic Megagames released a tech demo for iPhone/iPad. They ported the unreal engine 3 (the engine that gears of war ran on) to IOS which is pretty damn impressive in my eyes. So that is +1 for the iPhone just because it's so damn cool. Not quite enough for me to abandon my keyboard though
What provider are you on? I'm only specifically looking at Telstra simply because they have the best coverage. It seems the best two available on there are either the iPhone or the Desire.
I could look at Optus with its Galaxy S.... but don't want to go there.
After being with Virgin Mobile (Optus network) for 2 years I wouldn't touch anything but Telstra. Optus coverage is patchy at best. It's great when it works and gives faster internet speeds than my ADSL2 but awful and annoying as hell when it doesn't. Nothing worse than constantly dropping out of an important call...
Telstra may be slightly more expensive than other carriers but you get what you pay for, it really is miles ahead of Optus.
Just so you know, I am still currently with Optus on 24 month contract with 1 month to go. The coverage where I live (Sunbury) is awful and I get 2 bars out of 5 if I'm lucky, no reception at all most of the time. I can make do with Skype for calls while I am at home but it is still a pain in the ass getting messages days after they were sent.
From the same house my brothers Telstra SIM gets full reception. When I am in Melbourne for work etc Optus reception is fine.
Really looking forward to making the switch to Telstra
On September 07 2010 20:31 tofucake wrote: Aha, you're Australia. I don't know. I'm a fan of Android just because I'm a FOSS kind of guy. But, like I said, you can get a Galaxy S and unlock it quite easily. But they are quite pricey if you don't get them with a contract (price over here is $600+ without contract).
hm I got my samsung captivate for 100$ with the contract. pretty cheap deal :p I can't wait for flash, I want to be able to watch my kdrama on the go.
the only issues i have with it is: -lack of flash on camera -apps/android market is a bit worse than iphone, but its passable. -NO KOREAN KEYBOARD T.T
in terms of aesthetics however, this phone is the best. phone looks awesome and everything on the screen looks awesome. iphone is a bit too bulky for me.
I made use of an error on the Vodafone website to get my simlock-free SGS for 300 euro's instead of the 500-ish it was supposed to go for. Kind of an impulse buy as soon as I saw they made a booboo. Don't regret it though, absolutely best phone i've ever owned.
I have a Desire on Telstra. 3G coverage is pretty great. If you're in the city you shouldn't have any problems. *Sometimes* 3G randomly cuts out but a restart of the phone usually fixes it. I've got friends on Virgin and Vodafone and their 3G is usually always slower.
Some quick points about the Desire: -The ability to drag and drop most things onto the phone through Windows Explorer. -I find Google Maps better on Android than the iPhone's map app. It's also a serious lifesaver. -Telstra Desires don't have Froyo yet. You can hack the phone pretty easily and install 2.2. -On the multitouch issue; the Dolphin Browser has pinch-to-zoom (it's available from the market for free; I find it better than the default browser). -The app store selection is sufficient. I don't download games, though. I think the iPhone is probably better for those. -I find the Desire's display to be better indoors; it suffers more than the iPhone when you're outdoors and it's sunny. -The 5MP camera is nothing to write home about. -If you *do* get a Desire on Telstra, keep an eye on your data usage in the first month. Sometimes it inexplicably burns through your quota. I have no idea why. It happened to me and another person I know, but it's never happened since.
I'm using a motorola cliq right now and I love android. The app market isn't quit as close but it has about everything you need and I'm thinking about moving on to an HTC, my friend has one and I've played around with it a bit.
Not a fan of apple products but my suggestion is to go to the mall and go look at and test each phone. Generally phone salesman will take one out from the back and let you try it out if the displays aren't working properly or don't give you a good idea of what the phone is like.
I ordered an HTC Wildfire, should get it within the next two days. It's basically the little brother of the Desire, with a slower processor and worse screen, but same functionality otherwise. If you wanna save 200 bucks, you may want to consider the Wildfire.
Android has software keyboards like Swype & SlideIT, which makes typing text a lot less painful (IMO). I couldn't go back to a normal software keyboard
Just wondering what your really trying to do with the phone. Iphones: I have an iphone and i love it. You can unlock them and do tons and tons of really cool features with the backgrounds and you can get all the apps for free if you wish. you can also customize jsut about everything. They iphone is really reliable and AT&T has really good service just about everywhere. I like the features and for what i need it works great.
That is the HTC evo and i think that phone might be better then the iphone will all its features. Its basically the Iphone with better features, a bigger screen etc. The android operating system is supposed to be super fast with the processor as well.
Im not really sure about the drooid vs iphone i think it really comes down to what you need the phone for and what provider your on.
What a joke LOL. HTML5 video is slowly becoming ubiquitous, I hardly ever miss not having Flash. What were you going to use it for? YouTube and Vimeo are HTML5, Hulu has its own iPhone app, Flash games aren't better than what you can download for free on the App Store. What else is there?
Yeah, don't bother posting the updated videos that were on your link . And you've been saying that HTML5 line forever. Hulu and everyone else has put it on the back burner because you can't make money with HTML5. You're like the Fox News of mobile phones. :|
GTR, start with the carrier. That's the most important thing. The Google integration with my Droid is pretty fantastic. Calender/Google Voice/Maps/Directory/Shopper all work really well and are easy to access. The voice search is actually near 100% now.
Pretty much every productivity app is shared or recreated between iOS4 and Android. Slight differences are that Android has a better selection of browsers (Xscope is literally the best browser on any mobile platform) and things like Swype. You won't get the video calling that iPhone4 has though, unless you're getting an EVO.
iPhone is definitely ahead on games but most of them are paid for. Android Market is like 60% free apps, whereas Apple/Windows are 20-30%. Plus again, you've got flash^ at your disposal and I think some other developers like Gameloft have just started working on Android.
Whichever you choose, I'd recommend jailbreaking/rooting the phone.
I own a Nintendo DS game console. I had some fun with it, but eventually stopped using it altogether; not enough games I liked on the platform, and they're pretty expensive.
As a gaming platform, the iPhone has exceeded my expectations enormously. When I'm sitting in front of my computer, wondering what to do, I often just take out my iPhone and keep on playing Crimson Gem Saga or Hills and Rivers Remain.
There's also other things to love about your iPhone. I never ever get lost when driving anymore; I may be going someplace I've never even heard of before, but the Maps app (one of the built-in applications) is just so damn good as a navigation assistant I don't need anything else; the phone is a very capable internet browsing platform, as well.
I'm not gonna say the iPhone is better than Android phones, because I don't know the latter very well. But I will say I'm inseparable with my iPhone.
iTunes is stupid shit, seriously. I'd really just rather use my Cowon D2. It sucks to take around two devices at the same time but I just don't feel like going through iTunes at all.
However, the phone itself is awesome and I haven't even jailbroken it yet. Pros: - So many apps jeez. I have essentially a mobile computer, but on a phone. And a lot of good ones are free on app store too. The only things I've had to purchase as of yet are Flight Control and Doodle Jump, lol - Screen is ver. nice. I could easily be happy watching movies and TV shows from this thing. - Camera and video capture are both pretty solid for a phone imo. I can't really compare cause I upgraded from like a 7 year old piece of shit cellphone to this but I'm certainly happy with the resolution. I think there are some color/brightness quirks but maybe it's a personal thing. - Battery life is good enough. I think I recharge every day or every other day, depending on whether I'm running a lot of apps in the background or not. - Sound quality is acceptable enough through the built in speakers for video (and music I guess for most). I don't always like wearing headphones. Not like I use the iphone for music mostly anyway, but still.
Cons: - Glass isn't super sturdy. I took my phone to rock climbing one day and I think someone stepped on it: in any case when I got it out once I went back I found cracks on the bottom of the home button thingy and a few chips here and there. My fault for not getting a case sooner but still. - The accelerometer bothers me sometimes for screen orientation. Yes I realize you can lock it but it's a pain to lock and unlock when you're switching between apps. - Seems like when I'm calling people sometimes, my face presses up against the screen and I accidentally hit some stuff. Doesn't happen too often but I'd like not to accidentally end or mute calls every once in a while. (I haven't had any antenna problems yet btw, maybe I just hold the phone weird naturally) - No Flash derp (although jailbreak can enable flash right? that'll come later for me I guess)
Definitely consider the iPhone 4 though. It didn't disappoint me.
i'm actually looking for a new phone too. It's between the blackberry torch,iphone4, some android phone. But I haven't really picked out which android...there's just so many!
On September 07 2010 21:58 BLinD-RawR wrote: iPhone4+Jailbreak+FRASH=Android
This.
I really can't speak for the Android at all (I've only heard some tertiary stuff about it), but the iPhone4, especially if you jailbreak it, has so many different potential uses.
Here are some:
- Free BNet authenticator (secure your account without having to pay money for a separate physical device) - Various quick mobile services for banks and popular websites (take a picture of a check to deposit it on USAA) - Very, VERY addicting games for many times just $1 (good to kill time for a few hours) - Overall a good multitool for navigation and planning (the maps feature unparalleled. Checking for live traffic feeds has saved me so much time) - There really is 'an app for everything' (Facebook, Twitter, NYTimes, etc) - A plethora of nerdy applications to satiate your tech desires if you jailbreak it. These include useful applications for SSHing, war driving, tethering, downloading YouTube videos directly to your phone, man-in-the-middle attacks on open networks (keke), directionally finding yourself to a router (including hidden ones), reading network parameters on the cell phone tower you're connected to and the surrounding ones (do a manual network survey!), flash, ROMs/emulators for SNES/NES games, and a ton more.
The iPhone, though maybe not as technically astounding as other phones, has the userbase and community to support it and make it far more useful than the other phones, in my opinion
edit: bolded the jailbreak section. This is what really makes the iPhone worth it all, IMO
needing to void the warranty to do what you want on the iphone vs not having to void the warranty to do what I want for the android phone, its pretty easy for me.
also - Free BNet authenticator (secure your account without having to pay money for a separate physical device) - Various quick mobile services for banks and popular websites (take a picture of a check to deposit it on USAA) - Very, VERY addicting games for many times just $1 (good to kill time for a few hours) - Overall a good multitool for navigation and planning (the maps feature unparalleled. Checking for live traffic feeds has saved me so much time) - There really is 'an app for everything' (Facebook, Twitter, NYTimes, etc) - A plethora of nerdy applications to satiate your tech desires and you dont have to jailbreak it. These include useful applications for SSHing, war driving, tethering, downloading YouTube videos directly to your phone, man-in-the-middle attacks on open networks (keke), directionally finding yourself to a router (including hidden ones), reading network parameters on the cell phone tower you're connected to and the surrounding ones (do a manual network survey!), flash, ROMs/emulators for SNES/NES games, and a ton more.
The AT&T version of the Galaxy S is pretty amazing, I got it recently. Essentially the same phone, but it (called the Samsung Captivate on AT&T) looks 100x better in my opinion. Great phone.
EDIT: Also, what I think the biggest advantage of Android is: home-screen widgets. Personally, I hate the pages and pages of icons that you get on iphones. Also, the customization is worth it, no matter what people say. Being able to change your phone app, change the sms app, change the entire functionality of the home screen, add a million widgets, change all the layout, etc. is really useful.
And another interesting about the Galaxy S (at least the Captivate), is that it comes with a built in 16GB SD card AND has an external SD slot. So you can get 48 GB of memory pretty easily.
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