On September 08 2010 01:03 NukeTheBunnys wrote: needing to void the warranty to do what you want on the iphone vs not having to void the warranty to do what I want for the android phone, its pretty easy for me.
also - Free BNet authenticator (secure your account without having to pay money for a separate physical device) - Various quick mobile services for banks and popular websites (take a picture of a check to deposit it on USAA) - Very, VERY addicting games for many times just $1 (good to kill time for a few hours) - Overall a good multitool for navigation and planning (the maps feature unparalleled. Checking for live traffic feeds has saved me so much time) - There really is 'an app for everything' (Facebook, Twitter, NYTimes, etc) - A plethora of nerdy applications to satiate your tech desires and you dont have to jailbreak it. These include useful applications for SSHing, war driving, tethering, downloading YouTube videos directly to your phone, man-in-the-middle attacks on open networks (keke), directionally finding yourself to a router (including hidden ones), reading network parameters on the cell phone tower you're connected to and the surrounding ones (do a manual network survey!), flash, ROMs/emulators for SNES/NES games, and a ton more.
It's not illegal any more to Jailbreak.
And, just doing a restore on iTunes, would.."wipe off" any "jailbreak" trace.
On September 08 2010 01:03 NukeTheBunnys wrote: needing to void the warranty to do what you want on the iphone vs not having to void the warranty to do what I want for the android phone, its pretty easy for me.
also - Free BNet authenticator (secure your account without having to pay money for a separate physical device) - Various quick mobile services for banks and popular websites (take a picture of a check to deposit it on USAA) - Very, VERY addicting games for many times just $1 (good to kill time for a few hours) - Overall a good multitool for navigation and planning (the maps feature unparalleled. Checking for live traffic feeds has saved me so much time) - There really is 'an app for everything' (Facebook, Twitter, NYTimes, etc) - A plethora of nerdy applications to satiate your tech desires and you dont have to jailbreak it. These include useful applications for SSHing, war driving, tethering, downloading YouTube videos directly to your phone, man-in-the-middle attacks on open networks (keke), directionally finding yourself to a router (including hidden ones), reading network parameters on the cell phone tower you're connected to and the surrounding ones (do a manual network survey!), flash, ROMs/emulators for SNES/NES games, and a ton more.
It's not illegal any more to Jailbreak.
And, just doing a restore on iTunes, would.."wipe off" any "jailbreak" trace.
Sup? Void Warranty who?
You have to do extra steps to get the same output, and I am lazy. Really what it comes down to more then anything is:
#1 Are you part of the cult of Jobs #2 Are you on ATT and want to keep it
if you answered no to both of these, get an android phone. Otherwise the differences are mostly not important. There are very few apps that don't have their functionality mirrored on the competitors phone, yes they exist, but most of the difference between the android app market and the iPhone app market is the iPhone has 200 fart apps where as the android only has 50. The functionality of the phones is about the same, there aren't any features that one has that the other doesn't(other then being an open development platform) that push me either way.
Im mostly saying that the phones and apps are similar enough that the deciding factor is the carrier, if you dont want ATT because of bad coverage in your area(also known as the US) get a android phone on a different carrier
On September 08 2010 01:03 NukeTheBunnys wrote: needing to void the warranty to do what you want on the iphone vs not having to void the warranty to do what I want for the android phone, its pretty easy for me.
also - Free BNet authenticator (secure your account without having to pay money for a separate physical device) - Various quick mobile services for banks and popular websites (take a picture of a check to deposit it on USAA) - Very, VERY addicting games for many times just $1 (good to kill time for a few hours) - Overall a good multitool for navigation and planning (the maps feature unparalleled. Checking for live traffic feeds has saved me so much time) - There really is 'an app for everything' (Facebook, Twitter, NYTimes, etc) - A plethora of nerdy applications to satiate your tech desires and you dont have to jailbreak it. These include useful applications for SSHing, war driving, tethering, downloading YouTube videos directly to your phone, man-in-the-middle attacks on open networks (keke), directionally finding yourself to a router (including hidden ones), reading network parameters on the cell phone tower you're connected to and the surrounding ones (do a manual network survey!), flash, ROMs/emulators for SNES/NES games, and a ton more.
It's not illegal any more to Jailbreak.
And, just doing a restore on iTunes, would.."wipe off" any "jailbreak" trace.
Sup? Void Warranty who?
I'm pretty sure it's still a void warranty, despite it not being illegal anymore. Could be wrong though.
Anyways, after reading mroe about the Samsung Galaxy S I gotta agree, get it instead of those two. Apparently it even has a better monitor than the iphone 4. I was so tempted to sell my soul and buy an iphone but I really like the Galaxy so I'm gonna get that soon
Unless you are really into phones, the biggest benefit of the Android platform is the frequent updates, fantastic eco-system (Not as good as apple though but istore is stagnating while android is improving fast.) and complete integration into exchange server, gmail and other google tools.
Oh, just a quick note, there are definitely more accessories available for iphone as well, it would be extremely easy for you get a case for it while you might have to hunt down a good case for desire.
I really personally like HTC and android I think the HTC phones running android and are exposed to the apps from the android market is the better way to go. the iPhone I just feel is kinda meh and everyone goes for one when they think smartphone
both phones are pretty awesome. i went thru the same process recently. i got a desire because, well, the desire will probably be exponentially cheaper than the iphone and provide you with the same, if not better (hello live wallpapers), functionality.
I have an android device (galaxy s vibrant) and would swear by it vs iphone for the following reasons: 1. Notification Window: incoming text, email, background downloads, etc. are all visible from a little window you pull down from the top of the screen. This is VASTLY superior to the iphone method of "pop up a dialog whenever you receive a message" that is soooo windows 98. You can leave your email notifications for later if you are in the middle of something... 2. Swype: the touch keyboard that kicks ass... Not currently shipping on the desire but you can hope 3. Home Screen: I have shortcuts to quickly open navigation back home, widgets to preview current tasks, and that bad ass live wallpaper for ultimate showmanship 4. Google Sync: it's been said before, but Google calendar, contacts, and email sync beautifully. I can share my wifes calendar and view it on my device when she makes changes, and my gmail pushes down to me as fast as when I had my blackberry 5. Integration: Android is very customizable, and allows apps to do more than just provide closed experiences in the sandbox apple gives them on the iphone. This means a new app can add an option for the "share" dialog when you take a photo, or completely replace the dialer. Or, if you are in to scripting to completely automate stuff you do all the time, there is a killer app called tasker that takes advantage of all the ways you can plug into the OS: want teamliquid to launch every time you pick up your phone from the face down position when you are at the office? Done. 6. Flash, linux, etc... The standard arguments you normally hear. Keep in mind you need froyo for flash which is in the process of rolling out (not sure if it has hit the desire)
On September 08 2010 20:57 NevilleS wrote: 5. Integration: Android is very customizable, and allows apps to do more than just provide closed experiences in the sandbox apple gives them on the iphone. This means a new app can add an option for the "share" dialog when you take a photo, or completely replace the dialer. Or, if you are in to scripting to completely automate stuff you do all the time, there is a killer app called tasker that takes advantage of all the ways you can plug into the OS: want teamliquid to launch every time you pick up your phone from the face down position when you are at the office? Done.
Speaking of the dialer, do you know a good replacement that allows you to customise the number format? I tried to find one a while ago but gave up looking because it wasn't that big of a deal. It would be nice to have though.
On September 08 2010 18:28 GTR wrote: not considering the sgs since its exclusive to another service which i don't want to go to.
What service do you want? There's are Samsung Galaxy S's for AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile at least that I know of. They go under some different names (Captivate, Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic, etc), but almost all major carriers have/are getting it soon. And it's an amazing phone.
On September 08 2010 18:28 GTR wrote: not considering the sgs since its exclusive to another service which i don't want to go to.
What service do you want? There's are Samsung Galaxy S's for AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile at least that I know of. They go under some different names (Captivate, Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic, etc), but almost all major carriers have/are getting it soon. And it's an amazing phone.
GTR is from Australia afaik, only Optus (I think?) has the SGS available on a plan/contract at the moment and they don't have a great network. The only other option is buying it outright which can be pretty expensive.
On September 08 2010 18:28 GTR wrote: not considering the sgs since its exclusive to another service which i don't want to go to.
What service do you want? There's are Samsung Galaxy S's for AT&T, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile at least that I know of. They go under some different names (Captivate, Fascinate, Vibrant, Epic, etc), but almost all major carriers have/are getting it soon. And it's an amazing phone.
GTR is from Australia afaik, only Optus (I think?) has the SGS available on a plan/contract at the moment and they don't have a great network. The only other option is buying it outright which can be pretty expensive.