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My mother said she wanted the phone I use at the moment (LG KP500) and that the family is willing to help pay for a new phone when I head off to university.
I'm looking at these two at the moment, it basically boils down to which operating system, Android vs iPhone.
Android - HTC Desire
Manufacturer HTC Corporation
Carrier Singtel, MobileOne, Starhub, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Orange, O2, 3, Virgin Mobile, Telstra, SK Telecom, Softbank, Telus, U.S. Cellular, Vip Mobile
Screen 3.7-inch 480×800 (0.38 Megapixels) WVGA AMOLED or Super LCD capacitive touchscreen
Camera 5 Megapixel autofocus with LED flash featuring Face detection capability and Geotagging
Operating system
Android 2.2 "Froyo"
Android 2.1 "Eclair" (shipped)
Input Multi-touch with HTC Sense interface, 3-axis accelerometer, digital compass, proximity and ambient light sensors
CPU Qualcomm QSD 8250 1 GHz (Snapdragon) with AMD Z430 GPU
Memory 512 MB flash, 576 MB RAM
Memory card up to 32 GB with microSDHC
Connectivity Europe/Asia Pacific: HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz, 850/2100 MHz (Telstra Australia) 850/1900 (Telus Mobility Canada); GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; Wi-Fi (802.11b/g); Bluetooth 2.1 with EDR; Micro USB
Battery Li-ion 1400 mAh
Physical size 119 (4.7) × 60 (2.36) × 11.9 (0.47) mm (inch)
Weight 135 g (4.8 oz)
Form factor Slate Candybar smartphone
Other Proximity sensor, Accelerometer, FM Radio, Facebook, Twitter, MS Exchange, compass, GPS, A-GPS, Google turn-by-turn navigation, Flash 10.1 enabled[
I like the Android mostly for its Flash support, other than that, I don't see what else that makes it better than the iPhone.
iOS - Apple iPhone 4
Developer Apple Inc.
Manufacturer Foxconn (OEM)[1]
Slogan This changes everything. Again.[2]
Form factor Slate smartphone
Generation 4
Release date 24 June 2010[a]
Units sold 2.5 million (as of 22 August 2010)[3]
Operating system iOS 4.0.2 (Build 8A400)
Released August 11, 2010; 26 days ago (2010-08-11)
Power Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery
3.7 V at 1420 mAh[4]
CPU Apple A4 (ARM Cortex-A8)[5]
GPU Apple A4 (PowerVR SGX 535)[5]
Storage capacity 16 GB or 32 GB flash memory
Memory 512 MB eDRAM[6]
Display 3.5-inch (89mm) diagonal 1.5:1 aspect ratio widescreen
LED backlit IPS TFT LCD Retina display
960-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi (0.61 Megapixels)
800:1 contrast ratio (typical)
500 cd/m2 max brightness (typical)
Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating on front and back glass
Audio Single loudspeaker
3.5 mm TRRS
Frequency response: 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz
Input Multi-touch touchscreen display
Push-buttons
Dual microphone
3-axis gyroscope
3-axis accelerometer
Digital compass
Proximity sensor
Ambient light sensor
Rear camera 5 MP
HD video (720p) at 30 fps
1.75 μm size pixels
5× digital zoom
Tap to focus video or still images
LED flash
Photo and video geotagging
Front camera 2 MP (VGA)
SD video (480p) at 30 fps
25.17 μm size pixels
Tap to focus video or still images
Photo and video geotagging
Connectivity Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE
(850 900 1800 1900 MHz)
Penta-band UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA
(850 900 1900 2100 MHz)
Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n) (2.4 GHz only)
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
Online services App Store, iTunes Store, iBookstore, MobileMe
Dimensions 115.2 mm (4.54 in) (h)
58.66 mm (2.309 in) (w)
9.3 mm (0.37 in) (d)
Weight 137 g (4.8 oz)
Predecessor iPhone 3GS
Related articles iPad, iPod Touch (comparison)
Website Apple – iPhone
Unlike the Android platform, the iPhone has tons more apps from what I've seen.
So which should I go for?
and please don't go 'x because y sucks' or whatever. Please justify your responses.
Poll: Which one?HTC Desire (42) 66% Apple iPhone 4 (22) 34% 64 total votes Your vote: Which one? (Vote): Apple iPhone 4
(Vote): HTC Desire
 
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i've heard awesome reviews from bothhhhhh;
i mean other than the iphone antenna thing, i dont see anything wrong with it.
i say go for whichever one is cheaper. people i know who have them are only saying great things and talking shit about the other ones.
it's pure fanboyism at this moment.
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Speaking from my own personal experience, iPhone app games are strangely enough really good icebreakers.
People who you think wouldn't play games get into it.
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iPhone will be old after 1 year and you will v to constantly replace it so dont. Either get android or palm and try to mod them yourself. Palm is better than android btw 
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On September 07 2010 19:05 NB wrote:iPhone will be old after 1 year and you will v to constantly replace it so dont. Either get android or palm and try to mod them yourself. Palm is better than android btw
lol does Palm even make phones anymore? lulz.
Get Android. Most of the Apps on iPhone are just crap that you don't want. Anything you would want is on both basically. I loooove my Android phone and would pick it over an iPhone any day. I would suggest one with a physical keyboard, makes it so you can type a TON faster.
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Both phones have amazing technical specs.
The problem is that with Apple devices you always have to use their shitty iTunes, you can't copy your files freely. iTunes is a real pain in the ass.
If I could drag and drop my music from my computer to my iPhone, I would get one.
It is true that the Apple store offers a lot more applications, but that's not a good argument. Android market offers 100k applications vs 300k for Apple store. I can assure you that with 100k applications, 99% of the actually useful applications you can get on the Apple store are available on Android, or have their equivalent.
For example, if you are looking for a MSN app, you will find 15 on Android market, 45 on Apple store, but you will use only one in the end. And out of 15, you will definitely find a good one that fits your requirements. So yeah, the total amount of applications is 3 times higher, but the Apple store only has more duplicates of applications with the same purpose.
edit : Poster below reminded me of the native flash support for Android. Seemed so natural for me lol.
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I have the HTC Desire, and so far it has been a wonderful phone. Android market might not be as big as the App store from apple, but they do cover nearly every necessary app and its definitely catching up to the Iphone. The great thing with android is that you get to customize it however way you want with 7 screen to place your applications on, and the live wallpaper are really gorgeous. I didnt have any problems with my Desire so far and the 1 ghz snapdragon processor does its job correctly. In addition 2.2 Fryo has native browser flash support and a great way of handling stuff well. Obviously many apps like twiiter and FB apps dont look as polished as on the iphone but they are still damn good and getting constant support. The great thing about android is the amount of updates it gets yearly, they update the OS quite alot 2-3 times a year and add a ton of great features to their phones. Also the HTC Desire HD has sort of been announced, it has 8mp camera, 4gb internal memory, and SRS Sound which is great.
The Iphone 4 on the other hand, is pretty damn polished. There is something with Apples devices that make them great to have, and their customer support is pretty damn good. The Display on this one is so so good, best display I have seen on a mobile phone yet and the downs for me on the Iphone is lack of flash and sort of limited customization and tweaking around that you can do with the OS as a whole. Tho what you might also take into account is Itunes and how comfortable and easy to sync your stuff with the Iphone and have a all in one Phone and Ipod. The Desire has about the same sound quality if I remember correctly, but managing your shit on the Iphone using Itunes is a big big comfort.
It basically comes down to what do you feel comfortable with , which OS interface do you enjoy the most, and do you need flash for the browser ( I need it alot, thats why I got the Desire, Best phone I ever had).
I hope this helps!
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Apple is evil. iTunes is pure evil.
Personally, I wouldn't get any of the phones. Touch screen, games, music, camera, web browsing and other various apps are things I don't use.
Just think what do you want to use this phone for and pick basing on that.
I just wish Nokia would release a new version of 3310, this was the best cell in history and with today's technology it would be nice and slim and the battery would last like a year. Calls and text messaging, all I really want my phone to do (although, using it as a storage device can be handy too).
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Iphone has the angry bird game :D
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I prefer my Motorola Droid over the iPhone because it has a physical keyboard and a better screen. It is great being able to answer emails quickly while I am on the train or bus for work and the big screen is awesome for watching BW vods and playing games occasionally.
Some people love apps and others don't... me personally I don't get the point of most of them but it comes down to personal choice.
There are decent SNES emulators for Android now also if you are into that. The keyboard/touch controls aren't really good enough to play SF2 or anything like that but I had fun playing through FF4 again and they were more than good enough for that.
I also love the integration Android has with google apps (gmail, contacts, calendar, docs etc). It's pretty good on iPhone too but I found it a lot smoother on Android.
Does the US have multi touch for Android yet or are there still legal issues? That could be another thing to consider. I couldn't live without being able to multi touch zoom websites etc.
Edit: Also not having to be a slave to iTunes and being able to just drag and drop my music/videos is a huge plus in my book, I hate iTunes more than anything because it is a bloated piece of trash. I completely forgot about that...
Edit 2: About a week ago Epic Megagames released a tech demo for iPhone/iPad. They ported the unreal engine 3 (the engine that gears of war ran on) to IOS which is pretty damn impressive in my eyes. So that is +1 for the iPhone just because it's so damn cool. Not quite enough for me to abandon my keyboard though 
+ Show Spoiler +
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United States12607 Posts
I swear by my iPhone.
Before you buy an Android phone for "Flash support" you should watch this:
http://newteevee.com/2010/08/31/video-flash-on-android-is-startlingly-bad/
What a joke LOL. HTML5 video is slowly becoming ubiquitous, I hardly ever miss not having Flash. What were you going to use it for? YouTube and Vimeo are HTML5, Hulu has its own iPhone app, Flash games aren't better than what you can download for free on the App Store. What else is there?
Edit: apparently this video is not representative of Flash performance on Android, see Jibba's post later in this thread. Flash support on Android seems far from perfect but definitely good enough to watch your average internet video.
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I'd look into the Samsung Galaxy S. It's basically the same as the Desire but the phone is ALOT prettier and apparently the graphics processor is alot better. Also the screen is amazing.
http://galaxys.samsungmobile.com/
Edit: Runs on Android 2.1 right now but apparently getting 2.2 update (so including flash) this month.
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United States12607 Posts
On September 07 2010 20:11 disco wrote:I'd look into the Samsung Galaxy S. It's basically the same as the Desire but the phone is ALOT prettier and apparently the graphics processor is alot better. Also the screen is amazing. http://galaxys.samsungmobile.com/
boy wow that IS a pretty good-looking phone...reminds me of something though, can't quite put my finger on it.
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On September 07 2010 20:13 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 20:11 disco wrote:I'd look into the Samsung Galaxy S. It's basically the same as the Desire but the phone is ALOT prettier and apparently the graphics processor is alot better. Also the screen is amazing. http://galaxys.samsungmobile.com/ boy wow that IS a pretty good-looking phone...reminds me of something though, can't quite put my finger on it.
Nokia 3310?
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Hyrule18915 Posts
Go for Android because iPhone sucks!
Oh...wait.
Okay, the Galaxy S is available on all 4 major US carrieres: Captivate (AT&T), Vibrant (T-Mobile), Edge 4g (Sprint, I think), and that other one (Verizon). They are all the same inside, but the carriers' software tweaks differ (Vibrant has warmer pictures than Captivate, for example) and the shells are different too. What's awesome is that the unlock codes are stored on the phone, so you can buy whichever one you want and unlock it and just use it on your network. I'll be ordering a Captivate soon as well :D
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On September 07 2010 19:48 vek wrote:I prefer my Motorola Droid over the iPhone because it has a physical keyboard and a better screen. It is great being able to answer emails quickly while I am on the train or bus for work and the big screen is awesome for watching BW vods and playing games occasionally. Some people love apps and others don't... me personally I don't get the point of most of them but it comes down to personal choice. There are decent SNES emulators for Android now also if you are into that. The keyboard/touch controls aren't really good enough to play SF2 or anything like that but I had fun playing through FF4 again and they were more than good enough for that. I also love the integration Android has with google apps (gmail, contacts, calendar, docs etc). It's pretty good on iPhone too but I found it a lot smoother on Android. Does the US have multi touch for Android yet or are there still legal issues? That could be another thing to consider. I couldn't live without being able to multi touch zoom websites etc. Edit: Also not having to be a slave to iTunes and being able to just drag and drop my music/videos is a huge plus in my book, I hate iTunes more than anything because it is a bloated piece of trash. I completely forgot about that... Edit 2: About a week ago Epic Megagames released a tech demo for iPhone/iPad. They ported the unreal engine 3 (the engine that gears of war ran on) to IOS which is pretty damn impressive in my eyes. So that is +1 for the iPhone just because it's so damn cool. Not quite enough for me to abandon my keyboard though + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogiA9c1THd4
What provider are you on? I'm only specifically looking at Telstra simply because they have the best coverage. It seems the best two available on there are either the iPhone or the Desire.
I could look at Optus with its Galaxy S.... but don't want to go there.
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There's got to be something right about the iPhone. Everybody I know who has an iPhone defends it religiously and never puts it down. I think it boils down to, the Droids being more for professional use and iPhone is more social. Don't ask me specifics that's just the general idea I get when asking people who have used both.
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Hyrule18915 Posts
Aha, you're Australia. I don't know. I'm a fan of Android just because I'm a FOSS kind of guy. But, like I said, you can get a Galaxy S and unlock it quite easily. But they are quite pricey if you don't get them with a contract (price over here is $600+ without contract).
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If you have the money get the HTC EVO or the Galaxy S.
I've had the Desire for about 2 months and its great.
The iphone doesnt come close to the evo or the galaxy S and most people just argue that iphones have alot more apps. True, but most of them are useless and the ones you would actually need have been developed for the android os.
I've read alot of bad things about the iphone 4g when it came out. Dont ask me who many are true, but i woudnt get one.
If you have specific questions about the desire, feel free to PM me.
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