EPT[Update] Latest in KeSPA - Gretech negotiations - Page 20
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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LOcDowN
United States1014 Posts
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Woosung
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ghrur
United States3785 Posts
On September 02 2010 16:45 LOcDowN wrote: Sorry Samurai- but SC2 is very fun. I hate to break it to you but people are moving on. I hate it to break it to you, but some of us aren't. I find SC2 incredibly boring to watch, and I love the BW scene. I'll be pissed as hell if KeSPA loses this. )=< CMON KESPA, SHOW THEM YOUR JD DEATH STARE | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5562 Posts
On September 02 2010 16:45 LOcDowN wrote: Sorry Samurai- but SC2 is very fun. I hate to break it to you but people are moving on. Nah it's not. Quite mediocre imo. For me it will never replace SC:BW. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On September 02 2010 18:10 Elroi wrote: Nah it's not. Quite mediocre imo. For me it will never replace SC:BW. I would say most BW players think the same way. But too bad, because it doesn't matter. SC2 is the most popular strategy game right now and it is where all the tournaments and money are at. Korea is the only place in the world that BW still had a chance to live on, but by the looks of it it may not happen | ||
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Omegon
Sweden54 Posts
Anyway yes true that SC2 isn't really the same as watching BW, or at least in my humble opinion. And in the end I think I'll have to side with KeSPA on this, not because they are better people or anything even remotely similar, but because they made sure people could watch for free, which in my opinion is the best thing for the eSports since... I dunno, Multiplayer? Just watch the latest poll on how many will pay to watch the GSL, I mean sure it's not the whole eSports community sure. But it's a nice gap between "Yes" and "No". | ||
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Ruff
Kazakhstan179 Posts
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gyth
657 Posts
It was nice of gretech to throw out its draconian pricing to remind everyone the rights that activision is claiming. They are currently within their rights to require similar compensation from all tournaments. Hopefully this will come down to court cases and we'll end up with some rights as game owners that the IP holder can't deny us. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2216 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On August 31 2010 23:50 night terrors wrote: Completely understandable for KeSPA as well. No it's not, Kespa are like 80 year olds just sitting down saying "we don't want change, we are happy with BW", and everyone else is like SC2 is the now, the future. I think Kespa's pride is too big to accept SC2, and would rather let itself crumble. | ||
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On September 02 2010 17:14 Woosung wrote: SC2 might be fun to play, but he's right. It's really boring to watch. Just because other people are dumb enough to think SC2 > SC1 doesn't mean everyone will bend over and take their commercialized shit (Read SC2) in the ass. Perhaps boring for you to watch but most people seem to love watching SC2. Have you realized how popular the SC2 streams have been ever since beta came out? It has only been getting more more popular. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On September 02 2010 19:35 Dionyseus wrote: No it's not, Kespa are like 80 year olds just sitting down saying "we don't want change, we are happy with BW", and everyone else is like SC2 is the now, the future. I think Kespa's pride is too big to accept SC2, and would rather let itself crumble. BW still has a large following in Korea, and there is still high demand by the fans, so why would KeSPA want to cut off the supply? Meanwhile, Blizzard is attempting to kill off BW so that they can cram SC2 further down people's throats and artificially shift demand over to it. If SC2 does prove to be as successful of an esport (able to bring in the fans season after season, draw in sponsors for teams and leagues, etc) then the demand would shift on its own. Throwing hype and money at it and trying to make it stick isn't a long term solution. | ||
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gyth
657 Posts
Activision is charging for both (and throwing in lots of other wacky conditions). | ||
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_awake_
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
Edit: SC2 is ONLY successful because of BW, period. Its popularity is a tribute to the success of its predecessor. People may think that the world is moving on, but SC2 as it stands now does not have the ability to become the global e-sport that is BW. That can change in time, but forcibly destroying pro-BW is only going to cripple SC2 in the coming years. SC2 is popular because its new, but like all things the majority of people playing will move on to the next big thing in the coming months. Even if it remains popular, SC2 still has 2 expansions before its a completed game, so how is an incomplete game supposed to replace to most successful e-sport game? | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On September 02 2010 19:38 Dionyseus wrote: Perhaps boring for you to watch but most people seem to love watching SC2. Have you realized how popular the SC2 streams have been ever since beta came out? It has only been getting more more popular. A significant portion of the people on BW streams play very little and are simply there to spectate and enjoy the games, that is eSports. Whilst it can be said that the majority of people on SC2 streams are newbs trying to learn shit rather than spectators watching for entertainment. (Don't even try to contend that SC2 blobs > BW screaming fangirls) | ||
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DropTester
Australia608 Posts
On September 02 2010 20:53 ShadeR wrote: A significant portion of the people on BW streams play very little and are simply there to spectate and enjoy the games, that is eSports. Whilst it can be said that the majority of people on SC2 streams are newbs trying to learn shit rather than spectators watching for entertainment. (Don't even try to contend that SC2 blobs > BW screaming fangirls) I have to agree with that, every single one of my friends and myself when we actually watch starcraft 2 streams we are only doing it to learn new strats. With Broodwar though I watch it just because it is so much more enjoyable, I still follow all the leagues despite rarely playing broodwar anymore, something which I cannot imagine if I stopped playing starcraft 2 | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
On September 02 2010 19:35 Dionyseus wrote: No it's not, Kespa are like 80 year olds just sitting down saying "we don't want change, we are happy with BW", and everyone else is like SC2 is the now, the future. I think Kespa's pride is too big to accept SC2, and would rather let itself crumble. in KOREA, i dont think everyone is gunning for SC2. sure, overseas, it might be getting more and popular..but in Korea SC2 is still pretty stagnant. prove me wrong, though. | ||
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d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On September 02 2010 21:05 Katsuge wrote: in KOREA, i dont think everyone is gunning for SC2. sure, overseas, it might be getting more and popular..but in Korea SC2 is still pretty stagnant. prove me wrong, though. i see more kids at pc bangs playing sc2 lately | ||
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