[Update] Latest in KeSPA - Gretech negotiations - Page 19

Wait for what? The entire scene to be go backwards in time and maybe even fizzle out as if the phenemonen never existed?

Whatever bullshit Blizzard/Gretech is pulling for whatever reasons, is making the entire scene unstable. It won't be easy to persuade sponors to keep investing in the scene that is plagued with uncertainty, legal troubles and bad publicity overall. Not to mention the players themselves won't be able to showcast all their skills now they have their own livelihood to worry about.

I can see no good coming out of this, and since when did any of you care about the intellectual rights of a company that hardly is a victim of the idea that their game is the only product that manages to keep an entire industry consisting of numerous broadcasting companies, corporate sponsors, internet sites, alive. The industy was alive because we watched through the good times and the bad. Supported the players. Skipped classes to watch our favourite players live. Spent hours on numerous internet communities discussing the more important issues going on in the scene. It was the people's interest in the scene that allowed the scene to grow. And now Blizzard/Gretech wants to take all that away.

You can justify that all you want. I say it's total fucking bullshit. Blizzard didn't the scene. They shouldn't be able to hold us all at a gun point just because they made the game. It was the players. The teams that paid them. The broadcasters who employed professional observers, map-makers, casters and commentators. The fans who stood by their players and teams, the fans who got the broadcasting companies the necessary raitings. The fans who got the internet sites to stay alive with their non-stop activity within it.

Many of us, in one small way or the other. Made this entire thing happen. E-Sports wouldn't ahve existed without Blizzard? Fuck that. It wouldn't have existed without a lot of things clicking just right. Why the fuck would anybody empathize Blizzard's needs to disregard all the blood, sweat and tears devoted to get E-Sports to the point it is at now, for whatever the fuck it is that they feel we as a community owe to them for making such a great fucking game. I thought the debt was over the moment I paid for the game. But no. They feel I must bow down and suck on their crotch everytime I want to enjoy the by-products of their game. Apparently I can't enjoy shit without having to grovel for their permission and paying them money EVERY FUCKING TIME I WANT TO WATCH IT ON TELEVISION.

Don't you get it? We're the customers. We sustained the scene with our interest, which the corporate sponsors deemed enough in return for the pleasure of watching this amazing thing that is not available anywhere else. Now Blizzard comes barging in and starts to make demands that is way over-board both in terms of control and fincially speaking. They're not just fucking with Kespa here. They are FUCKING WITH YOU. STOP BEING HAPPY THAT YOU'RE BEING VIOLATED ANALLY BY A BUNCH OF MONEY HUNGRY FUCKHEADS.

Blizzard is essentially saying you can't fucking enjoy E-Sports without us getting our pockets full. Want to play our game? Pay us. Want to play our game on television. Pay us. Want to watch our game on television. FUCKING PAY US.

What part the E-Sports scene in Korea being threatened, Blizzard's message that what we do with their products will never be legally viable without their permission, and all the work we as a community have put in, no matter how small or insignificant in the grand scope of things, being PISSED ON by those fuckers. Why are some retards here celebrating the presence of a dictatorship on something that was not perfect, but relatively free from all this bullshit that has nothing to do with the beauty of the industry? Why are these mindless drones essentially mumbling: "OH CREATOR OF STARCRAFT WE BOW DOWN TO THEE AND WE ALL GLAD TO MEET YOUR INCESSANT NEED FOR MORE MONEY AND POWER. FUCK KESPA AND FUCK BROOD WARS. WE WILL PAY ALL THE CASH. WE WILL PAY ALL THE INTELLECTUAL RIGHTS EVERY TIME WE PLAY YOUR GAME COMPETITIVELY."

I say fuck that. And fuck you if you think we owe Blizzard a cent for something they hardly touched on all these years and have benefitted greatly from. It's the ultimate betrayal, and you have some serious issues of sadomasochism if you are greatly interested in making Blizzard richer even if it means having to sacrifice on your part.

So much ignorance here. It makes me so fucking sad that the BW leagues chances of survival are slowly unraveling, while kids on TL bicker like idiots over things that do not matter.

I really don't care what side you choose to support, since in the end your support means nothing to them, unless you do something about it. Instead of throwing words at each other uselessly let's take action before its too late. Kespa might be acting stupid in your opinion but they are our only hope in this war to continue to enjoy the BW proleagues.

Blizzard wants everything, and everything their way. If they had brought these issues up eight years ago then I would have had to support them. But now they are only bringing it up because of SC2. Well, SC2 is fucking boring. I and many others have no interest in watching SC2. Absolutely none. Speaking for myself now; I think that E-Sports is great. Playing video games for a living is cool. But if BW must be sacrificed in order to have that... then fuck Blizzard and fuck GOM.

I will not sit by and let these corporate assholes destroy something that I love this much. Even if you support Blizzard then you must realize that if GOM has their way we will be left with no more Proleagues. Has that sunk in yet? No more Jaedong, no more Flash, no more anything. This will hurt E-Sports more than help it. Once the hype is gone will SC2 survive as a 'spectator sport'? I don't know, probably not in my opinion. But BW has already been through the fire, it's already found a place in many people's hearts and managed to stay their for a decade.

To be a professional BW player is a long, hard road. In the end, unless you are Nada or Savior, you will not make much money. You will not be very famous outside of Korea, or inside for that matter if you never do well. Your skill set is limited to... playing Starcraft. Your hopes of finding a decent job outside of anything Starcraft related is ludicrously bad. So then why do it? Simple, the love of the game and the fans. In almost every interview I've read with progamers; they always thank the fans. Well I think its high time we started giving back.

SC2's success is all about money. I get the feeling more people are playing it because of the prize pools more than anything. It is being forced down our throats by Blizzard, and I don't like the taste. If you want to make a game and then whore it out as an 'e-sport' then be my guest Blizz, but don't touch BW. Watching and playing this game give me more joy than I can put into words. I love it, and I will fight to keep it alive.

So their are two ways this can end well. We can hope for a miracle or Kespa gives in to GOM's demands, which isn't going to happen for two reasons: Kespa has way too much pride, and Kespa simply doesn't have the money! GOM is incessantly telling them about all these fees they have to pay and how Kespa screwed GOM in the past and all this political bullshit. Well there is almost no money in the proleagues and GOM fucking knows it. It sounds to me like GOM wants revenge or something, and that means wiping Kespa out. Which in turn means the death of BW...

Let's band together for once, I'm begging you TL. Don't let them take our game away. We should be pooling our collective resources (which are great and many) trying to stop this instead of useless discussion over trivial matters. Blizzard created Starcraft, but they did not create the proleagues. If Van Gogh had kept all his paintings in his house and charged people to see them, do you think he would be respected and admired as he is today? Of course not. He may have created the paintings, but he certainly did not create and foster other people's love for them. He simply did something that he loved and was good at, and it resonated with people.

Well that is what Starcraft has done for me. Blizzard created a game, put some love and time into it and it resonated with me. Now they want to destroy a community that supports that? For what? The GSL?! FUCK THAT. FUCK YOUR POLITICS. I JUST WANT TO WATCH JAEDONG BEAT FLASH. I just want to watch BW at its pinnacle and listen to overly excited Koreans. I just want to trash talk Bisu fanboys. I just want everything to be as it was. These negotiations have already damaged the proleagues image enough that if they do survive somehow, they will have more trouble than ever finding sponsors. Let's show the corporations that it isn't just about money. It's about us: the fans. Without us none of this would exist.

Well I'm going to start exercising the tiny bit of power I have. Alone I am weak but together we can have a say in how this will end.