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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
That said, it was mostly because i was confused and hell, so was Ver, he listed Ace, L, me, etc. as high % suspects , but we weren't mafia at all; as well as listing caller as 98% or something innocent! This is my second game of mafia, the first game i actually was Mafia, and i was entirely more helpful and did a lot of (useless) clue analysis, not because i wanted to help the town, but because i wanted to look innocent and easily forgettable (who cares about clues right?), and also buried a lot of important posts with clue analysis; so the town forgot about them lol In this game ,aside from me being useless, my behavior doesn't point towards mafia, such as my mayoral voting and lynch voting. And i would love to help, i really would. i never expected caller to be mafia- and was nearly sure Ver was mafia as L i was completely wrong, and probably wrong for plexa and nemY as well. I'd rather just be useless than plague the town with what i think | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Please also read Ace/Ver, they both agreed in some point that HOE was a valid target. That said, it was mostly because i was confused and hell, so was Ver, he listed Ace, L, me, etc. as high % suspects , but we weren't mafia at all; as well as listing caller as 98% or something innocent! Eh, taken a bit out of context there (from above post), just added quote. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 18 2009 08:53 Ver wrote: Update time! Mafia list: Ace 95% Mynock 93% mrbabyhands 92% MTF 80% L 78% Infinity21 70% Traitor: Nemy 90% Innocents list: Caller 97% BC 93% Malongo 85% Tricode 84% Lucaswoj 83% Incognito 80% Fusionsdf 77% and that's what Ver wrote from before~ Also i don't think Ace/Ver really suspected me. But here's a couple posts Dreamflower wrote sometime: Because of the focused brutality of the killing and the fact that the killer misses details, I might tentatively suggest Heavonearth. His quote at the end includes a link that reads "http://l0lhi.mybrute.com." I didn't click on the link, but the words "my brute" does fit the way mikeymoo was killed. In addition, his profile also includes a series of letters (rather like an eye chart), followed by the sentence: "What's the pattern? no really tell me, i have no clue :O" This suggests someone who doesn't notice patterns or details, like mikeymoo's killer. L wrote sometime: Also why are people voting after being inactive? HeavOnEarth is active enough to know better, doesn't vote for double lynch, votes for PLEXA of all people. bit suspicious due to activity? Sure, but I checked his posting record on TL and he's been a ghost EVERYWHERE not just here. Hope you get to the bottom of this! ~.. Like you said, wasting another lynch would be really bad.. , and i urge you not to waste it on me | ||
Qatol
United States3165 Posts
Modkill requests that are only due to in-game-related reasons will not be honored (though obviously we cannot force you to vote). If you have a legitimate out-of-game reason to get yourself modkilled, take it up with the host privately. If you try and troll the thread to force a modkill, we will let the TL staff deal with you as they see fit. 0cz3c, I realize that this change affects you in particular. I apologize. Please contact me so we can discuss your situation in more detail. | ||
Malongo
Chile3468 Posts
"Like you said, wasting another lynch would be really bad.. , and i urge you not to waste it on me" Dont play dumb with me, townies are scared enough to mislynch, however they know they have to lynch someone. Just look at your behavior: You still fail to give something clear to the town. I think this is enough, If someone still doubts about him please i urge you to do a search in callers posts and heavononearths ones. You will see: a)Similar patterns b)Similar ideas and posts. For the second Lynch I suggest the town to vote Nemy. I will not point to his claim and the fact that he hasnt been killed yet by the mafia. This time i will simply call for a clue analisis: From day 3 Someone exited the hotel into the garden in time to see this struggle unfold. He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. The jaws unclenched and Caller’s bones spilled to the ground. Letting out a cry, the would-be savior pulled on the stem until the plant was uprooted. He proceeded to trample dreamflower until only green goo remained. There is enough clues pointing to feet in mikymoos death, and I think "trample" is the clue that matchs here: see Nemys profile, Boardwalk. At this point we know that Nemy has been alive for too long. Therefore Im voting to Lynch Heavonearth and Nemy unless someone comes with a better target. Note also that this will clear more people depending on their flips given their voting patterns. I call for Lucaswoj ghost here townies: dont follow Malongo until this night, well, this night has come. Edit: My english is worst than ever. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Note also that this will clear more people depending on their flips given their voting patterns. i don't see how my death really gives any information; whereas killing 0cz3c would at least give credence to MBH However, i agree with killing nemY ~.. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
Dont play dumb with me, townies are scared enough to mislynch, however they know they have to lynch someone. but im not playing the whole dumb mafia thing im honestly a clueless townie who's trying to figure out what's going on .. and of course i know you have to lynch someone, but i also know im not mafia and i give no information(?) from my lynch | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
You still fail to give something clear to the town. [/quote] what the fuck excuse me for being reluctant to kill both mayor and pardoner that were innocents it's not just me who's confused - it's the majority of the town. | ||
HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On May 23 2009 04:09 MrBabyHands wrote: In the interest of keeping the town on track for once, I will be outting mafia in small numbers instead of one big post calling out names-- in past games, that has just caused the town to start pointing fingers yet again and the votes end up split all over the place. So I will list my newest top suspect (caller was my last top suspect. he didnt last. nobody can withstand the babyhands. But to quickly address tricode's inquiries: + Show Spoiler + L protected me last night. I decided to contact L several hours after the ace and ver debacle when there were talks of vigi'ing me. After figuring out his role I PMed L my top suspects in case i died. I also asked for medic protection because i was certain dreamflower would target me and all my analysis would be lost before it was complete (i dont post my accusations until i'm positive AND have proof to back it up.) L agreed with my suspects list. Shortly before the night was over, apparently he got in contact with dreamflower (even asked for her in the thread). I guess he managed to convince her to hit caller instead. And now here we are. No L, no df-- just me with my info and a bullseye on the reds. I never actually asked L to post in the thread tho-- that was all him. Here we go ---------------- When compiling evidence, i find it useful to concentrate on 3 areas: Suspicious behavior, suspicious voting, and suspicious clues. Caller had all 3. and now someone else does-- 0cz3c. Suspicious behavior: + Show Spoiler + First, theres this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=77#1528 By the way, at least one of the following three is mafia. Caller RebirthofLegend nemY I may be simply pulling this out of my ass. However, 0cz3c's senses are tingling. Its not the fact that he actually listed a mafia in there (caller), but that he makes no attempt to even justify it. "senses are tingling"-- even i dont do that. Senses mean nothing without proof, and this just makes no sense. To add, if you read the post right above that, 0cz3c is lashing out at malongo for suggesting that they discuss who to vigi, including a list of names, one of which was 0cz3c. A wise old man once told me "A hit dog will holler." Earlier in the game, he sad: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93286¤tpage=45#891 Caller should be getting protection from at least one medic, by the way. come on y'all... look at that shit. In retrospect its pretty blatant isnt it? moving right along. Next, suspicous voting: + Show Spoiler + Mayor vote: voted for ver, switched to ace, then finally ended up on Mynock wishy washy voting among 2 innocents, then landing on a third party. This does NOT imply that Mynock is red tho. Instead, it implies that 0cz3c is trying to swing things to the mafia's favor. It was clearly the mafias GOAL to get 2 greens elected-- look at the votes. They knew a good portion of time would be spent figuring out if the leaders are red-- made even more likely with efficient blue sniping the night before-- specifically the fishball and Lucas kills. Which is EXACTLY what happened. Day 2 lynch vote: switched from ace to ver. again, switching between these two. a mafia would've known they were both green. a mafia wouldnt particularly care much who got lynched. that was the plan all along, wasnt it 0cz3c? a mafia would vote for one, or the other. with a possible slight preference for ver due to the controversy it would cause. and finally, suspicious clues: + Show Spoiler + I admit, this was a bit more difficult to find-- Quatol has an interesting clue style, unlike any i've seen before. 0cz = OCZ OCZ is a company that manufactures RAM (in fact, i have a pair of OCZ DDR3's in my comp right now). The company even makes a type of RAM called tripple channel. (3c) http://www.ocztechnology.com/ The day's clue mentioned "bowling" into someone. The 3rd day, its "ramming". Ram is actually mentioned twice in the clue: He charged towards the struggle and rammed into the plant. He proceeded to trample consistent with the clues becomming a bit more obvious over time. kaboom. Bonus evidence: + Show Spoiler + Lucas got blue sniped shortly after getting BG. 0cz3c and Lucas are brothers-- of course he's gonna be able to tell faster than anyone else if his bro has an important role. The facts are in your faces. Lets wrap this shyt up. Each of these pieces of evidence considerd individually would'nt paint the picture we require to prove guilt. But when you consider them all together-- shady behavior, matching clues, "random" blue BG snipe on day 1... smh. so to sum up: we get rid of 0cz3c, and we keep it truckin. MBH: *raspy voice* i am The Babyhands. i eat mafia for breakfast. extra milk. Mafia: omg wtf its the gotdamn Babyhands! run for your lives! MBH: Yes, thats right, my little cockroaches. Run... run faaar faaaaar away. But no matter how far you get, i will be behind you... breathing on your heels. You feel it, dont you? You feel my breath on your ankles... thats how close i am. I'm commin for that azz. hello post. don't get buried under all this mess~ | ||
RebirthOfLeGenD
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
1. Vivi (sweet clue analysis from MTF) 2. Heavonearth (solid behavior analysis from malongo) 3. nemy (self explanitory) 4. Tricode (solid clue analysis from bc I urge you all to vote one of these four, im voting for vivi and idk which one of the other three but at this point tricode seams to be mafia to me | ||
Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
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Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 24 2009 00:55 Scaramanga wrote: Anyway what i can gather from the past few days so far is that this is the most likely list of mafia the town has so far 1. Vivi (sweet clue analysis from MTF) 2. Heavonearth (solid behavior analysis from malongo) 3. nemy (self explanitory) 4. Tricode (solid clue analysis from bc I urge you all to vote one of these four, im voting for vivi and idk which one of the other three but at this point tricode seams to be mafia to me his clue analysis about me isn't that solid, but yeah he does have maybe some that may look like they can link to me, but i would not say they're strong. | ||
Mynock
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MTF
United States1739 Posts
As for using BC's analysis to lynch, I only see one potentially strong link among the clues: Kill 3 “In a different part of town, Fishball was running for his life. His left arm was hanging uselessly at his side, the result of a blow from the man calmly following him. Fishball finally reached the tool shed behind his house. He started fumbling with the lock in an attempt to get the axe inside. He got the door open in time for a kick from his pursuer to knock him to the floor. Fishball coughed while the other man surveyed the inside of the shed. Having made his selection, the attacker grabbed one of the tools leaning against the inside of the shed and kneeled down next to Fishball. "This would have been a lot less painful for you if you had faced me like a man. You need to develop a stronger backbone; I am going to help you with that," quipped the hit man. He then shoved the rake in his hand into Fishball from behind, handle first, as far as he could. He left Fishball flailing on the ground, coming to terms with his newfound confidence but lacking the strength to do anything with it except die.” I would suggest that this links to REBIRTHOFLEGEND. He has a quotation of a ban by hot_bid “Reason: I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you want to troll, I can tell you I have no patience for that. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long moderation career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you stop the stupidity now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, in one week, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.” It makes sense and it's consistent with that single Mafia member. That said, while most of his points do make some sense, they're scattered. Reading the kills, one must note that there are consistent characters, which means that the clues should not be scattered between different Mafioso. Which makes me confused on why so many people are suddenly jumping on Tricode. Unless all of you voting for him have information (like a rolecheck) that is driving you, then the reasoning just doesn't check out. There is not much evidence, and what little exists is presented in sparse fragments. Current Vote Count: + Show Spoiler + HeavOnEarth: 3 Malongo BloodyC0bbler Amber[Light] Nemy: 1 Malongo BloodyC0bbler: 1 Incognito Tricode: 5 Plexa Scamp Scaramanga BloodyC0bbler Amber[Light] 0cz3z: 2 MrBabyHands HeavOnEarth MrBabyHands: 4 0cz3c Scamp RebirthOfLegend Fusionsdf Vivi57: 6 MTF 0cz3c Nemy RebirthOfLegend Scaramanga Fusionsdf Abstain: 3 Plexa MTF HeavOnEarth Haven't voted at all: 5 Bockit Camlito Showtime! Vivi57 Tricode Has only used one vote: 4 Incognito MrBabyHands Nemy HeavOnEarth WTF Random Votes: 2 Mynock (x2) At this rate, with this amount of spread (and up to six people to place where they're needed) Mafia controls this vote. | ||
Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 24 2009 04:58 MTF wrote: Jesus, the votes are all over the place. As for using BC's analysis to lynch, I only see one potentially strong link among the clues: It makes sense and it's consistent with that single Mafia member. That said, while most of his points do make some sense, they're scattered. Reading the kills, one must note that there are consistent characters, which means that the clues should not be scattered between different Mafioso. Which makes me confused on why so many people are suddenly jumping on Tricode. Unless all of you voting for him have information (like a rolecheck) that is driving you, then the reasoning just doesn't check out. There is not much evidence, and what little exists is presented in sparse fragments. Current Vote Count: + Show Spoiler + HeavOnEarth: 3 Malongo BloodyC0bbler Amber[Light] Nemy: 1 Malongo BloodyC0bbler: 1 Incognito Tricode: 5 Plexa Scamp Scaramanga BloodyC0bbler Amber[Light] 0cz3z: 2 MrBabyHands HeavOnEarth MrBabyHands: 4 0cz3c Scamp RebirthOfLegend Fusionsdf Vivi57: 6 MTF 0cz3c Nemy RebirthOfLegend Scaramanga Fusionsdf Abstain: 3 Plexa MTF HeavOnEarth Haven't voted at all: 5 Bockit Camlito Showtime! Vivi57 Tricode Has only used one vote: 4 Incognito MrBabyHands Nemy HeavOnEarth WTF Random Votes: 2 Mynock (x2) At this rate, with this amount of spread (and up to six people to place where they're needed) Mafia controls this vote. Don't worry MTF, if there are those who are townies and know what they are doing work hard enough, they will find me innocent. But if not, I'm sure you guys will be able to figure out who is guilty soon enough. If my death = you guys finding some mafia members then do it. I am working on a clue analysis and going to make my case. I am going to put more effort and looking at suspects and helping the town. I'm not going down with out a fight and even if i do get lynched, I hope you guys will continue on my fight. Though if I do die, there is a certain someone I want to come to the grave with me. I'm going to be part of getting a mafia killed even if it kills me! | ||
Tricode
United States538 Posts
On May 23 2009 08:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Most clues, like most games, although don’t always use how a person was killed as a clue, they typically do so I will be concentrating on that for now. Day 3 “Meanwhile, the second intruder, initially transfixed by the brutal killing, suddenly remembered that there was another target and began the hunt. He climbed the stairs and poked his head into each of the bedrooms but couldn't find anyone. After passing the set of curtains with a conspicuous pair of shoes sticking out for the third time, he heard mikeymoo sneeze. He turned around and shot both feet, causing mikeymoo to fall from his hiding place. The man approached the writhing mikeymoo, dropped his gun, and grabbed one of his fingers. He slowly put pressure on it until it snapped and mikeymoo let out a scream that dwarfed any sounds he had made before. The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat. As his life left him, mikeymoo chuckled at the absurdity of the knife solving the problem of his hoarse, sore throat.” This entire sequence has the feeling of a sense of surrealness. Someone who remembered there was another person to kill. So he went and looked into bedrooms, one at a time. Finds his target and attacks, first immobilizing them, then cruely torturing before the final kill. A link to this could be TRICODE quotation “1 2, he is coming for you” line which is a reference to freddy krugar. Who is a serial killer, who kills people. So one room at a time he persued his victim, till he found him, and slowly killed him. Tricode: You do realize what you are saying is so weak that I'm surprised you didn't say anything about how broad and vague it was. Mafia kill people. You're just linking my quote to freddy kruger who also kills people, so freaken broad that it's barely even worth it as a clue Many others have commented earlier how they thought this might point to dreamflower as it seemed to be like a dream, well, freddy killed people in dreams. Tricode: Dude, the only word that has Dream in it was DreamFlower's name! where are you pulling this from? Seriously, what's with your clues about me? Is there some kinda disease going around where it makes vet players make horrible analysis? Look at what happened to Ace and Ver... Day 3 First kill “"Well, if you aren't going to cook anything for us..." The smaller man snapped his fingers and infundibulum burst into flames.” Possible linkage to TRICODE, as freddy Krueger kills people in dreams by bursting them into flames. Tricode: I told you on AIM that Freddy Krueger doesn't burst the people he kills into flames. He normally claws them to death. The only one who ever really is put on fire is Freddy Kruger himself! Go watch his damn movies. You didn't even correct yourself on here but you said Woops my bad on aim. Give me a break dude, if you are going use Freddy Kruger, then get your facts straight about him. He's my hero ;p Possible link to HEAVONEARTH as of his tiny mybrute, and I know grenades are weapons in that game, REBIRTHOFLEGEND as in the sense of the poem he has it ends with explode, something could have burst and lit infundi on fire. Second kill “L hunched in the corner of the freezer, trying to make himself as small as possible. The banging on the freezer door was only interrupted by infundibulum's screams. The screams went from muffled to painfully loud as the larger man finally managed to solve the problem posed by the door. He quickly spotted L and started punching him repeatedly. Surprisingly, the blows didn't seem to hurt L as much as he had expected. With the hope of escape now flashing before him, L looked for something to ward off the attacker. He immediately noticed that infundibulum had clearly not defrosted the freezer in months. He was thankful. He broke off one of the icicles and tried to stab his attacker's face with it, but he couldn’t figure out exactly where to stab. L was trying to sort out his confusion when a blow from a blunt object crushed his head. L toppled to the floor. The larger man left the door ajar as he left, ensuring that the freezer would get its long overdue defrosting.” This fight reminds of a HEAVONEARTH, as well, mybrute character, runs in attacks and punches, hes smaller so his fists wouldn’t do the type of damage you would expect. Next, because of his size, you would have a harder time hitting him. The death could also link to TRICODE. This is because the death happened in 3 stages, the first two times fail, and the third succeeds. 1st time when L flees, second when his first hit fails to kill L, third time when he finishes L off just before he is stabbed by an icicle. This could point to him as well. Tricode: No, sorry you screwed up again. Though at least you stopped using Freddy Kruger references. As well this is also weak but i guess the 3 stages thing is a bit better then your other clue analysis which blow. Sorry BC lol. I think you should look more in the fact that this guy might be the one who is blurry or something is odd about his face cause L couldn't recognize if he even had a face. (don't do Freddy again, Freddy even though his face is burned, you know where the hell his face is). BC i noticed you picked on me a bit for your analysis i find it a bit strange. It even seemed like you tried to really push your faulty clues about me as hard as you could but in the end they came faulty anyways. One being your problem of not being a Freddy Fan like I, two i guess you had freddy on the brain when you looked at me. Trust me BC, Freddy is not your friend, he is your nightmare. | ||
Incognito
United States2071 Posts
Go look back at page 78. HeavOnEarth bursts out and accuses nemY quite harshly. Then I ask him why he thinks nemY is guilty. He responds by asking why I think he's innocent. When I reply and say that that isn't a valid response, he just shuts up. Sounds pretty fishy to me. The other behavior is also totally useless to us. So is 0cz3c's. So I'm voting for them. | ||
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