• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:21
CEST 12:21
KST 19:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 - RO4 & Finals Results (2025)8Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week0Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer12Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 - RO4 & Finals Results (2025) Nexon wins bid to develop StarCraft IP content, distribute Overwatch mobile game Rain's Behind the Scenes Storytime Firefly suspended by EWC, replaced by Lancer How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SOOP Starcraft Global #22 $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target
Brood War
General
ASL20 Preliminary Maps BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - WB Finals & LBR3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Echoes of Revolution and Separation
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 32548 users

Mafia VIII [GG] - Page 107

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 105 106 107
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 27 2009 16:01 GMT
#2121
On May 28 2009 00:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Amber, you attribute it to dumb luck (which apparently it was) and as the town we looked at the statistic probability of them both dying, it was something like 1 in 680? I can't remember. With those odds we had to assume that they leaked to someone, even though I couldn't see mikeymoo doing that but I don't know much about lucas.

From our perspective they had to leak to someone to make it even possible, at least one of them. The dumb luck scenario required well, way too much dumb luck.

So we decided to purge the office of red.

There was no red.

Fuck.

That is basically what happened. If you can't see how that fucked the town over, then you need to think more. Combine that with the random ass infinity21 lynch as opposed to 1/2 mafia and we were like "Wtf? Something is not right in there"

A lot of bad luck plagued the town and turned us stupid. If those two things didn't happen, if you hit any other blue this game might of gone different.

If vivi or MBH had remembered to change their votes -_-
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 27 2009 16:51 GMT
#2122
On May 28 2009 00:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Amber, you attribute it to dumb luck (which apparently it was) and as the town we looked at the statistic probability of them both dying, it was something like 1 in 680? I can't remember. With those odds we had to assume that they leaked to someone, even though I couldn't see mikeymoo doing that but I don't know much about lucas.

From our perspective they had to leak to someone to make it even possible, at least one of them. The dumb luck scenario required well, way too much dumb luck.

So we decided to purge the office of red.

There was no red.

Fuck.

That is basically what happened. If you can't see how that fucked the town over, then you need to think more. Combine that with the random ass infinity21 lynch as opposed to 1/2 mafia and we were like "Wtf? Something is not right in there"

A lot of bad luck plagued the town and turned us stupid. If those two things didn't happen, if you hit any other blue this game might of gone different.


1 in 680... those are the odds. (DUMB LUCK)

People even said in the thread 'maybe those hits were just dumb luck.' The outspoken townies disregarded any argument that said 'dumb luck' on the bodyguard hits.

It only worked out because the town also already had disagreements over Ver and Ace, which couldn't have been any better. You guys never stopped to think that there was a possibility that both were innocent. Everyone who said this possibility was like 'well they could be both innocent, but they're not.' Those people kept going either accusing Ace, or Ver...

And cmon you think I don't know how that fucked the town over? It couldn't have worked more perfectly, but the execution was only accomplished because the town had numerous factions that had issues with other factions. When you have more than two distinct groups its very easy to target one group that accused another group so the focus on targets changed. This happened on Day 2 if you check the thread there were probably 4 (at least) distinct alliances of townies. The Pro-Ace, The Pro-Ver, The Pro-L, and the Anti-nemY (weak). The problem is everyone in each group accused key players in the other groups so they went on auto-defense. The people who had clue analysis targeting actual mafia members posted first and we never saw their analysis come back. You guys just started trying to make the clues fit the people you wanted to see dead. All-in-all the town played poorly. I keep saying that you guys played like shit and yet you all insist that it's because of the kills (infinity, bodyguards). Your mentality of the game hasn't changed, despite the game ending, and the mafia members telling you what happened and why.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
May 27 2009 19:31 GMT
#2123
Infinity was lynched mainly due to his apparent apathy to the thread.

Ver's Decision (based on what i know)

happened like this.

He asked me for names for potential lynches. He told me he already had mbh and amber on his list due to inactivity, I dropped infinity's name, as well as one other random one (forget which). He then took his first two names to ace, ace said he would auto pardon mbh.

That left ver with Amber and then he had infinity's name that I had given him. He coin flipped best of 7 i believe, and infinity lost so was lynched.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 27 2009 19:52 GMT
#2124
On May 28 2009 04:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infinity was lynched mainly due to his apparent apathy to the thread.

Ver's Decision (based on what i know)

happened like this.

He asked me for names for potential lynches. He told me he already had mbh and amber on his list due to inactivity, I dropped infinity's name, as well as one other random one (forget which). He then took his first two names to ace, ace said he would auto pardon mbh.

That left ver with Amber and then he had infinity's name that I had given him. He coin flipped best of 7 i believe, and infinity lost so was lynched.


And this game had no signs of LUCK at all.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
May 27 2009 20:24 GMT
#2125
Haha amber
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 27 2009 20:51 GMT
#2126
lol I remember that. Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber and one of the BG's didn't die.

That would of been sweet.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 27 2009 21:17 GMT
#2127
Why are we even discussing this with Amber? He's shown he is a fucking moron. End of story.

On May 28 2009 05:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber


And now that Amber is posting even more dumb shit I really wish he did
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 27 2009 23:53 GMT
#2128
In retrospect, Ver's modkill may have cost us a perfect game.
Cheese is good for you!
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 28 2009 02:52 GMT
#2129
wait what the fuck? Me and Ace agreed?
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 28 2009 03:47 GMT
#2130
On May 28 2009 11:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
wait what the fuck? Me and Ace agreed?

Nah as always you are both misunderstanding eachother.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 28 2009 04:02 GMT
#2131
On May 28 2009 06:17 Ace wrote:
Why are we even discussing this with Amber? He's shown he is a fucking moron. End of story.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 05:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber


And now that Amber is posting even more dumb shit I really wish he did


lol you bulldog even when the game is over. jeez ur a piece of work Ace.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 20:52:02
May 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#2132
From my end I view the probability of both BGs PM'ing their role to a mafia mayor (or Pardoner) as much larger than 1/680

I think the town made the right decision to go crazy over those kills, and the mafia just had amazing luck.

edit: it's probably more probable still that one BG PM's the elected, they get killed, and the mafia luckily hit the other one.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 30 2009 22:54 GMT
#2133
had to post this for the morons that defended nemy:

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Lynch_All_Liars

I like rubbing it in.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 31 2009 00:04 GMT
#2134
To be fair, nemY was actually telling the truth. I don't think that link is quite appropriate.

That said, from a metagaming sense, lynching nemY day 1 (or at least quickly) is absolutely correct even though it's probably not in the town's best interests in this single game.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 31 2009 00:28 GMT
#2135
Well of course, we have no idea if he's telling the truth or not.

The reason he should have been lynched is when he was asked for his PMs he lied after posting something which had nothing to do with anything.

So yes, the link is very appropriate.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 31 2009 00:39 GMT
#2136
Oh right, I forgot about that.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
May 31 2009 00:58 GMT
#2137
It was hilarious.

In retrospect.

And probably only because of the picture.

Yeah.....
In DotA you could
Prev 1 105 106 107
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
10:00
Season 1: Group B
herO vs sOsLIVE!
Zoun vs Clem
Tasteless530
ComeBackTV 361
IndyStarCraft 88
Rex60
IntoTheiNu 43
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Tasteless 530
IndyStarCraft 88
Rex 60
ProTech54
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 22428
Calm 9783
Sea 2279
Hyuk 2085
Bisu 1284
Jaedong 612
EffOrt 371
actioN 317
ToSsGirL 167
Zeus 134
[ Show more ]
Leta 113
Rush 111
JulyZerg 83
Last 65
Dewaltoss 64
Mong 60
NaDa 34
Barracks 31
Movie 18
Free 15
TY 15
Sacsri 12
Sharp 9
sSak 6
ivOry 4
Hyun 1
Dota 2
420jenkins530
XaKoH 503
XcaliburYe419
League of Legends
JimRising 381
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2040
shoxiejesuss721
x6flipin360
PGG 80
allub59
byalli15
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor203
Other Games
singsing1223
ceh9754
C9.Mang0397
Happy395
Pyrionflax283
crisheroes271
Mew2King165
DeMusliM70
SortOf29
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick586
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
BSL: GosuLeague
8h 39m
Hejek vs Aeternum
Semih vs TousaN
Replay Cast
13h 39m
The PondCast
23h 39m
RSL Revival
23h 39m
Harstem vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Road to EWC
3 days
SOOP Global
3 days
Future vs MaNa
Harstem vs Cham
[ Show More ]
Circuito Brasileiro de…
3 days
BSL: ProLeague
3 days
Sziky vs JDConan
Cross vs MadiNho
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Road to EWC
4 days
BSL: ProLeague
4 days
UltrA vs TBD
Dewalt vs TBD
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #3 - GSC
2025 GSL S2
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.