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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 27 2009 16:01 GMT
#2121
On May 28 2009 00:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Amber, you attribute it to dumb luck (which apparently it was) and as the town we looked at the statistic probability of them both dying, it was something like 1 in 680? I can't remember. With those odds we had to assume that they leaked to someone, even though I couldn't see mikeymoo doing that but I don't know much about lucas.

From our perspective they had to leak to someone to make it even possible, at least one of them. The dumb luck scenario required well, way too much dumb luck.

So we decided to purge the office of red.

There was no red.

Fuck.

That is basically what happened. If you can't see how that fucked the town over, then you need to think more. Combine that with the random ass infinity21 lynch as opposed to 1/2 mafia and we were like "Wtf? Something is not right in there"

A lot of bad luck plagued the town and turned us stupid. If those two things didn't happen, if you hit any other blue this game might of gone different.

If vivi or MBH had remembered to change their votes -_-
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 27 2009 16:51 GMT
#2122
On May 28 2009 00:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Amber, you attribute it to dumb luck (which apparently it was) and as the town we looked at the statistic probability of them both dying, it was something like 1 in 680? I can't remember. With those odds we had to assume that they leaked to someone, even though I couldn't see mikeymoo doing that but I don't know much about lucas.

From our perspective they had to leak to someone to make it even possible, at least one of them. The dumb luck scenario required well, way too much dumb luck.

So we decided to purge the office of red.

There was no red.

Fuck.

That is basically what happened. If you can't see how that fucked the town over, then you need to think more. Combine that with the random ass infinity21 lynch as opposed to 1/2 mafia and we were like "Wtf? Something is not right in there"

A lot of bad luck plagued the town and turned us stupid. If those two things didn't happen, if you hit any other blue this game might of gone different.


1 in 680... those are the odds. (DUMB LUCK)

People even said in the thread 'maybe those hits were just dumb luck.' The outspoken townies disregarded any argument that said 'dumb luck' on the bodyguard hits.

It only worked out because the town also already had disagreements over Ver and Ace, which couldn't have been any better. You guys never stopped to think that there was a possibility that both were innocent. Everyone who said this possibility was like 'well they could be both innocent, but they're not.' Those people kept going either accusing Ace, or Ver...

And cmon you think I don't know how that fucked the town over? It couldn't have worked more perfectly, but the execution was only accomplished because the town had numerous factions that had issues with other factions. When you have more than two distinct groups its very easy to target one group that accused another group so the focus on targets changed. This happened on Day 2 if you check the thread there were probably 4 (at least) distinct alliances of townies. The Pro-Ace, The Pro-Ver, The Pro-L, and the Anti-nemY (weak). The problem is everyone in each group accused key players in the other groups so they went on auto-defense. The people who had clue analysis targeting actual mafia members posted first and we never saw their analysis come back. You guys just started trying to make the clues fit the people you wanted to see dead. All-in-all the town played poorly. I keep saying that you guys played like shit and yet you all insist that it's because of the kills (infinity, bodyguards). Your mentality of the game hasn't changed, despite the game ending, and the mafia members telling you what happened and why.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 27 2009 19:31 GMT
#2123
Infinity was lynched mainly due to his apparent apathy to the thread.

Ver's Decision (based on what i know)

happened like this.

He asked me for names for potential lynches. He told me he already had mbh and amber on his list due to inactivity, I dropped infinity's name, as well as one other random one (forget which). He then took his first two names to ace, ace said he would auto pardon mbh.

That left ver with Amber and then he had infinity's name that I had given him. He coin flipped best of 7 i believe, and infinity lost so was lynched.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 27 2009 19:52 GMT
#2124
On May 28 2009 04:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Infinity was lynched mainly due to his apparent apathy to the thread.

Ver's Decision (based on what i know)

happened like this.

He asked me for names for potential lynches. He told me he already had mbh and amber on his list due to inactivity, I dropped infinity's name, as well as one other random one (forget which). He then took his first two names to ace, ace said he would auto pardon mbh.

That left ver with Amber and then he had infinity's name that I had given him. He coin flipped best of 7 i believe, and infinity lost so was lynched.


And this game had no signs of LUCK at all.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
May 27 2009 20:24 GMT
#2125
Haha amber
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 27 2009 20:51 GMT
#2126
lol I remember that. Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber and one of the BG's didn't die.

That would of been sweet.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 27 2009 21:17 GMT
#2127
Why are we even discussing this with Amber? He's shown he is a fucking moron. End of story.

On May 28 2009 05:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber


And now that Amber is posting even more dumb shit I really wish he did
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 27 2009 23:53 GMT
#2128
In retrospect, Ver's modkill may have cost us a perfect game.
Cheese is good for you!
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 28 2009 02:52 GMT
#2129
wait what the fuck? Me and Ace agreed?
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
May 28 2009 03:47 GMT
#2130
On May 28 2009 11:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
wait what the fuck? Me and Ace agreed?

Nah as always you are both misunderstanding eachother.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
May 28 2009 04:02 GMT
#2131
On May 28 2009 06:17 Ace wrote:
Why are we even discussing this with Amber? He's shown he is a fucking moron. End of story.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2009 05:51 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ugg Ver, if only you just killed amber


And now that Amber is posting even more dumb shit I really wish he did


lol you bulldog even when the game is over. jeez ur a piece of work Ace.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-29 20:52:02
May 28 2009 23:23 GMT
#2132
From my end I view the probability of both BGs PM'ing their role to a mafia mayor (or Pardoner) as much larger than 1/680

I think the town made the right decision to go crazy over those kills, and the mafia just had amazing luck.

edit: it's probably more probable still that one BG PM's the elected, they get killed, and the mafia luckily hit the other one.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 30 2009 22:54 GMT
#2133
had to post this for the morons that defended nemy:

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Lynch_All_Liars

I like rubbing it in.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 31 2009 00:04 GMT
#2134
To be fair, nemY was actually telling the truth. I don't think that link is quite appropriate.

That said, from a metagaming sense, lynching nemY day 1 (or at least quickly) is absolutely correct even though it's probably not in the town's best interests in this single game.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 31 2009 00:28 GMT
#2135
Well of course, we have no idea if he's telling the truth or not.

The reason he should have been lynched is when he was asked for his PMs he lied after posting something which had nothing to do with anything.

So yes, the link is very appropriate.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
May 31 2009 00:39 GMT
#2136
Oh right, I forgot about that.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Elemenope
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
May 31 2009 00:58 GMT
#2137
It was hilarious.

In retrospect.

And probably only because of the picture.

Yeah.....
In DotA you could
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