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On May 24 2009 08:58 Malongo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2009 08:54 Showtime! wrote:
I don't see how that puts either one of us on the block Malongo. It's legit. The kid never denied it. For the record, I shared it with Bockit, Incognito and MBH.
Tricode is flaky as fuck.
EDITED: ? for . -_- Sorry showtime but I think you are a clever player. IF tricode flips green (unlikely) then that means a) he played absolutely dumb copy/pasting caller b) one of us faked one of the pms As I said I have to wait to flip tricode to put my support on you. That doesnt mean I dont think tricode is mafia, that means that im a fucking paranoid.
Yeah, i made a dumb move with that though i don't care if i die. But either case, i was thinking of getting myself killed if i can pull some info for the town.
I don't think i can do much more for the town to be honest. Especially with how the game is going.
Look, all i have to say good luck. I'm sure from my death you guys will get mafia.
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some clues
Day 3
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larger man
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tried to stab his attacker's face with it, but he couldn’t figure out exactly where to stab.
L was trying to sort out his confusion when a blow from a blunt object crushed his head.
So, blunt object , and unable to identify where the attacker's face is(DT ?) and a rather large man
The smaller man snapped his fingers and infundibulum burst into flames.
something about fire or magic?
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Day 2
Two intruders entered the house, unnoticed
The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat
possibly DT(dark templar) for someone's symbol(?)
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Day 1
Qatol turned to face this new threat, but was unable to locate the speaker. Suddenly, Qatol saw a blur as his assailant leapt at him, planting a knife in Qatol's chest.
another DT reference(?)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemy
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=vivi57
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
the 3 who have DT's for icons.
and yeah dreamflower killed caller.
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You call that a bet? I'm a gambler (more than one person here would tell you that), but I get nothing from a bet like that.
This has been far short of a Good Game man. All of us have been playing like shit up to this point. I have nothing to hide man. Sure, BC made similar points. Does that mean I rely on other people's analysis'? Fuck no. Sometimes it helps to have more than one perspective. This was a group consensus.
I'm pissed off at many players right now. It's been very hard to find any motivation to play anymore. All I know is I'm taking a break from mafia games for a while after this one is in the books.
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Here is my list for mafia suspects btw. I'm not the best of clue analyzer, it's really my first time of actually posting my thoughts on the clue.
I hope they can help.
Mafia suspects
BloodyC0bbler
Day 1 clues:
- As far as ship clues go. On wikipedia there is the USS Cobbler (SS-344). Cobbler also go with food and Fish.
- Not strong but take a look. LTT turned just as something bowled into him, knocking him down into the now crimson waters. Crimson waters. Can deal with it being bloody and a lot of things about Cobbler seem to be some how dealing with water based things according to wiki.
- Now take note, there are clues that BC ignores that would go better for Vivi but instead he uses Freddy kruger on me with the flame when it was the smaller mafia member who did this. (Freddy Kruger once again doesn’t burn his victims.)
- BloodyC0bbler also tries to make some of the evidence that can also link toVivi by looking at Mrbabyhands.
- To add, everyone in Bc’s circle has died. BC was blue snipping he tried really hard to snipe me but missed and later finds that I am green. (I being Green will be proven with my death if you decide I am worth killing for information.)
-Also he mentioned to me he had an idea who the medic was (L being the last) and admitted to me that the medic most likely wasn't willing to protect him. (I didn't know L was medic until L died)
Bc found a lot of blues and I'm pretty sure he used them so he can look innocent. He had Caller in his group, maybe a way if one of them get caught, that the other can look innocent and influence the circle?
Either case, to me BC has been really Cobby (it's a joke, Cobbler fish, get it hahaha....no?)
Ocz3c
Day 1 clue. - As far as ship clues go he has something about boats. “A boat is a boat. A mystery box can be anything – it can even be a boat!” in his profile.
Day 2 clue: - a conspicuous pair of shoes sticking out for the third time
- This one is kind of weak and it can even go with me we both have 3’s in our name. It’s not much.
Scaramanga
- As far as ship clues go he also has something about boats. “Quote: IM ON A BOAT MOTHER FUCKER DONT YOU EVER FORGET” Also in his profile.
Malongo
-Day 1 Clue: Chuiu and Pyrrhuloxia were sitting on the deck of the cruise ship playing a leisurely game of cards and sipping decaf coffee.
Google search Malongo’s name. it leads to a lot of sites talking about coffee.
Showtime
- Day 2 Clue. In a google search there is a site that shows you a list of showtimes. One dealing with syringes and fighting, also a picture of a lady holding a syringe.
o attacker pulled out a syringe and slammed it into LucasWoJ's right eye. mikeymoo was gone by the time LucasWoJ was fully injected, but he could still hear the brutality even as he fled. The assailant bellowed again and started slamming the now empty syringe into LucasWoJ's face repeatedly until his face caved in and the only sounds left were guttural yells, the squishy impacts, and the sound of blood splatter. Come morning, there would be little above the neck that could identify LucasWoJ's corpse. His unrecognizable face and shattered teeth would be no help to the authorities, but his fingerprints were sufficient.
This happens in UFC and things like that. In how beatings tend to work.
• (Even though BlooyC0bbler brought his up earlier, he didn’t stay with it, it might actually be a ploy to bring suspicion on mafia but then later turn the other way and forget it. It might make them look innocent. Seems like anything is possible this game).
-Lastly, as you seen, I and he had a pm convo. When and if I do die. You will see that everything I had to say was truthful and Showtime has been trying to help with the bandwagon.
As far as other clues go. I am uncertain about them or you can see that they relate to VIVI better then Mrbabyhands or me (cause of the flame remark)
Math time.
20 Left
5 + 1 Traitor
6 badies
14 townies.
When I die you get the 13 townies left (I’m placing bet’s that Vivi is mafia. But if some lame reason vivi isn’t then 12 townies)
Now some of these things are arguable. I admit not all of them are strong, but I think some of them have some value connection wise.
I am only pointing fingers at BC and Showtime as for now. With the information provided you think about the rest.
Also isn't it weird how Nemy has yet to die even though he has called blue since the very near the beginning of the game? I think he would be dangerous now that the list of people in the game have shrunk.
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Just wait until you flip. I cant believe you still dont refuse that pm. That is clear to me You are mafia nobody in his fucking sense will copy paste a pm from another player to resend fishing for info.
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On May 24 2009 09:09 Showtime! wrote:
You call that a bet? I'm a gambler (more than one person here would tell you that), but I get nothing from a bet like that.
This has been far short of a Good Game man. All of us have been playing like shit up to this point. I have nothing to hide man. Sure, BC made similar points. Does that mean I rely on other people's analysis'? Fuck no. Sometimes it helps to have more than one perspective. This was a group consensus.
I'm pissed off at many players right now. It's been very hard to find any motivation to play anymore. All I know is I'm taking a break from mafia games for a while after this one is in the books.
Yeah, i can understand how you feel. I'll just take it as you are pissed. And can assume that your just calling me stupid out of anger or w/e =\
When i flip green however don't take it to hard man. If you really are townie (i doubt it though).
I am not going to use my other vote however unless i really feel like we found another mafia. I don't care if i have to die after in the next lynch or by mafia.
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Good job bud. Congratz you really caught me there.
Your Day 2 Clue accusation of me has already been determined as Caller.
Furthermore, I believe BloodyC0bbler made that same connection. HM, Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
Practice what you breach brother!
Start thinking for yourself.
EDITED: I'm trying to be nicer, truly I am.
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On May 24 2009 09:12 Malongo wrote:
Just wait until you flip. I cant believe you still dont refuse that pm. That is clear to me You are mafia nobody in his fucking sense will copy paste a pm from another player to resend fishing for info.
I think i caught a Red fish called Showtime.
I like to call myself the bait and boy did my fish bite.
Like you said. Yeah maybe it was the dumbest move ever, but the way this game going meh what the hell. I'll take the stupid move.
Either case, like i said i was planning on dieing.
I figured this might happen.
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Keep firing blanks man. I already refuted every accusation you've made. GJ
Now would you like a cookie? Mafia scum.
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On May 24 2009 09:16 Showtime! wrote:
Good job bud. Congratz you really caught me there.
Your Day 2 Clue accusation of me has already been determined as Caller.
Furthermore, I believe BloodyC0bbler made that same connection. HM, Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
Practice what you breach brother! Apparently doesn't know how to do their own research.
Start thinking for yourself.
Uh, I admitted it was by BC.
Learn to read.
I think i missed the part with it being connected to Caller. Sorry but even you have to admit there was a lot of things going on.
So can you reshow me this and guarantee it is linked to caller? If it is not a guarantee then i say it's fair game.
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On May 24 2009 09:19 Showtime! wrote:
Keep firing blanks man. I already refuted every accusation you've made. GJ
Now would you like a cookie? Mafia scum.
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when i flip green, do you want to have " FAIL stamped on your ass or forehead?
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TL played a joke once on a TL Admin after he was the only one to lose in the showmatch between TL and GG. They changed his icon to that for a few days and it was funny as hell. That's only if you are in fact green.
I'll make that wager.
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On May 24 2009 09:29 Showtime! wrote:
TL played a joke once on a TL Admin after he was the only one to lose in the showmatch between TL and GG. They changed his icon to that for a few days and it was funny as hell. That's only if you are in fact green.
I'll make that wager.
? I don't get what you are saying.
Like i said i'll take any wager you have to throw or want.
In the end all i want is to have no hard feelings against each other.
=\ i don't care how you view me for thinking this way.
So explain this wager again so i can understand it better. I most likely will take the wager btw, i just want to understand what you mean.
I wasn't there for this joke so i don't get it.
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Very good, very good... So much discussion, so much life (and death, soon) in here!
My access to TL.net has been utterly rhapsodic lately, but I'll use this window while it still works, and post my thoughts on the matter.
First, I'll start with a message I wanted to post last night (right when MBH made his post about soon to reveal Mafias en masse, but before he actually did it), but that's exactly when my net broke off, so I had to keep it in txt:
I sent a PM to Bockit back during the whole Ver/Ace/L debacle, and it represented my guesses on Mafia back then (quite heavily skewed, due to Ver's doings): To: Bockit Subject: If I had to guess now Date: 5/21/09 01:02 Mafia list: + Show Spoiler +Ver
BC
Caller
Plexa
Dreamflower
fusionsdf (either Mafia or possibly Blue)
Traitor:
nemY
Somewhat suspicious (need to see more of them):
Infundibulum
Incognito Now, obviously the whole Ver line has been a false lead, which at that time most prominently included Ver himself and dreamflower (I suspected they are together and they were, unfortunately Ver played the way he did, and so, meh... completely off). I have been correct on Caller, and frankly, no surprise there, I said he's one the most shifty back when Ver made his defense post of him, and attacked me. Caller, and Ver's subsequent defense of him were also one of the primary reasons for me to start on the whole Ver thing. However, if I had to modify my findings now, I'd say I have to modify things, tho I'm still suspicious of Incognito and fusionsdf. First, I'm very suspicious of MTF right now. The question now is either MBH or MTF. The thing about MTF is, he's playing it just as he was back the last time he was Mafia. Providing rather useless clue interpretations, which are not only wrong, but are geared towards the primary, most popular targets at the time. So basically, nothing new. In his last post he didn't even make any direct accusations, merely listed clues, and among them, lots of obvious non-clues. In particular, he pursued the very popular "small man" + "hands" clue. Which brings us to MBH. If MBH is innocent, MTF is Mafia. It's probably true vice versa as well. I'm also suspicious of HeavOnEarth. His posting style brings absolutely nothing to the table, and is merely good to keep him afloat. Perfect for a Mafia, or a blue role in hiding. Why Mafia then? If he was a DT, he would be pointing us in directions by now, but none of that happened yet. Also suspicions: 0cz, fusionsdf, Incognito... Of these, we should see more posts, and I will explain why 0cz later on. I have to run now, but it's something I wanted to let out in front. My suspicion list will be modified once we get to hear from MBH. Until then, the traps are set 
So, huh. Since then, 0cz has been blown out of the water, and Tricode made quite a bang himself I won't even add anything to the 0cz case, what's left now, is to wait the lynch. Tricode is absolutely doomed with that PM tho, so even tho I have to admit I had very little suspicion on him before, this is ridiculously incriminating.
But apart from these, the most interesting for me right now are MTF and HeavOnEarth. Both fit just what I expected from them (especially HOE's immediate defense as soon as he got called out, even tho he didn't say anything at all before, and his subsequent tries at "analysis" are rather incriminating). Bockit called out HOE rather nicely there, which only confirms my own doubts, and I'm glad to see he is somewhat suspicious of MTF as well.
So what do we do now? We wait and see if MBH is on our side. If yes, we have a rather clear picture here. If not, it all turns around.
Oh, and, MTF wrote:
WTF Random Votes: 2
Mynock (x2)
Nope, those votes aren't as random as you'd like them to seem to be
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On May 24 2009 09:03 HeavOnEarth wrote:
some clues
Day 3
quote]
larger man
tried to stab his attacker's face with it, but he couldn’t figure out exactly where to stab.
L was trying to sort out his confusion when a blow from a blunt object crushed his head.
So, blunt object , and unable to identify where the attacker's face is(DT ?) and a rather large man
The smaller man snapped his fingers and infundibulum burst into flames.
something about fire or magic?
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Day 2
Two intruders entered the house, unnoticed
The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat
possibly DT(dark templar) for someone's symbol(?)
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Day 1
Qatol turned to face this new threat, but was unable to locate the speaker. Suddenly, Qatol saw a blur as his assailant leapt at him, planting a knife in Qatol's chest.
another DT reference(?)
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemy
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=vivi57
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongo
the 3 who have DT's for icons.
and yeah dreamflower killed caller.
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Thanks, you clarified this even more for me.
Vivi57 is definitely mafia.
snapped his fingers and turned him into flames.
This is referencing Vivi's magic powers in final fantasy as someone else noted earlier (I believe MTF?)
The stabbed in the throat referencing DT. Vivi57 icon is DT.
In summation, kill Vivi57, cut mafia KP. Win life.
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Last Romantic got a FAIL icon attached to his name for being the only Admin to lose to GG.net in a Starcraft showmatch they had. It was within the last 6 months so it is fairly recent.
If you turn green. I'm asking the Admnis to change my icon to the FAIL icon for the rest of the game.
I have no hard feelings against anyone man. It's a fucking game and we're trying to do our best to beat the mafia. In ALL the games I've played here I haven't been mafia once. I'm sick of getting Townie roles. I just want this damn game to end.
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Please take a look at this:
Vivi57 - 6
MTF(1)
0cz3c(2) <-- from BloodyC0bbler
nemY(1)
RebirthOfLeGenD(2)
Scaramanga(1) <-- from 0cz3c
fusionsdf(2)
I do not like where this is going at all. I think we know rather clearly where nemY's allegiance lies (a "confirmed" DT surviving up to day 3? Puhleeeze!), especially after we've seen how Caller tried to push Town to roleclaim to him (goddamn I hope no one did). So what do we know from that? We know that the Mafia is very likely lynching an innocent here. 0cz, MTF, nemY, fusion... All are suspects of mine, and all voting Vivi. This doesn't seem right.
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On May 24 2009 09:39 Showtime! wrote:
Last Romantic got a FAIL icon attached to his name for being the only Admin to lose to GG.net in a Starcraft showmatch they had. It was within the last 6 months so it is fairly recent.
If you turn green. I'm asking the Admnis to change my icon to the FAIL icon for the rest of the game.
I have no hard feelings against anyone man. It's a fucking game and we're trying to do our best to beat the mafia. In ALL the games I've played here I haven't been mafia once. I'm sick of getting Townie roles. I just want this damn game to end.
DEAL!
You got yourself a deal!
What do you want if i turn red?
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EDIT: @ Showtime! Glade you feel that way and look at it that way. If you are townie in the end. Please do your best to find mafia and look for anything you can validate from what i have told you.
Like i said i don't care about dieing if it means i can provide info at this point.
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Show nested quote +On May 24 2009 09:38 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On May 24 2009 09:03 HeavOnEarth wrote:
some clues
Day 3
quote]
larger man
tried to stab his attacker's face with it, but he couldn’t figure out exactly where to stab.
L was trying to sort out his confusion when a blow from a blunt object crushed his head.
So, blunt object , and unable to identify where the attacker's face is(DT ?) and a rather large man
The smaller man snapped his fingers and infundibulum burst into flames.
something about fire or magic? ----- Day 2
Two intruders entered the house, unnoticed
The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat
possibly DT(dark templar) for someone's symbol(?) ---- Day 1
Qatol turned to face this new threat, but was unable to locate the speaker. Suddenly, Qatol saw a blur as his assailant leapt at him, planting a knife in Qatol's chest.
another DT reference(?) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=nemy http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=vivi57 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Malongothe 3 who have DT's for icons. and yeah dreamflower killed caller. Thanks, you clarified this even more for me. Vivi57 is definitely mafia. snapped his fingers and turned him into flames. This is referencing Vivi's magic powers in final fantasy as someone else noted earlier (I believe MTF?) The stabbed in the throat referencing DT. Vivi57 icon is DT. In summation, kill Vivi57, cut mafia KP. Win life.
If HeavOnEarth flips Red, you just got yourself killed.
Edit: broken brackets.
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