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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On May 15 2009 17:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Telling my opponent my race completely negates why someone would go random. If a random player tells you "Oh btw I'm P" right after he splits, why did he go random in the first place? You seriously can't answer this yourself? Wow. Come on. People go random because they want the computer to decide what race they will be playing but they also don't want to give the other guy some disadvantage. God. Seriously. I would expect someone to tell me their race if they went random because I wouldn't know what build order to use. Try harder to answer your own questions. 1/5
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On May 15 2009 18:05 Kentor wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2009 17:48 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Telling my opponent my race completely negates why someone would go random. If a random player tells you "Oh btw I'm P" right after he splits, why did he go random in the first place? You seriously can't answer this yourself? Wow. Come on. People go random because they want the computer to decide what race they will be playing but they also don't want to give the other guy some disadvantage. God. Seriously. I would expect someone to tell me their race if they went random because I wouldn't know what build order to use. Try harder to answer your own questions. 1/5
Apparently, as has been pointed out by other replies (read the thread, maybe?), my motives for going random are different than those of others.
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I wonder what would happen if you randomed and lied about your race, is there some iccup rule against that?
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if you were really serious about learning all 3 races just play terran for 50 games and repeat for the others. You'll probably improve faster because you're focusing on one thing.
and no your motives are partially the same as others because you did say you like the advantage given by playing random
if you cant decide what race to play just get a hat make 3 cards and pick it randomly. Random is stupid unless its rvr.
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Dude your complaint is utterly ridiculous, he was at no more of a disadvantage than when the game first started... Why would u waste the ICCUP admins time complaining it... it was 50secs, remake the game and move on =\
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On May 15 2009 16:36 Mastermind wrote: only pussies play random.
fixed,
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the under, what 2 minute(?) of free leaving time is there for a reason.
Do you file a complaint if it starts lagging and the guy leaves? Do you file a complaint if someone suddenly gets busy and has to leave?
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I can understand the OP zatic. Its plain bullshit that he should host games where he states that he's random. If he joines a game without "terran come" "zerg come" etc blabla. He can pick random. If someone can't deal with random he should quit broodwar.
@ OP. Next time just lie and tell him you are protoss or something-_- There's no rule that you need to be honest on your race.
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Zurich15306 Posts
Well he is the one complaining, not the guy who quit. Sure he can pick random, but then don't start crying about people quitting, and, ffs, don't waste the iccup admin's time with something like this.
And yeah, great advice to tell them the wrong race. That's the spirit.
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where do they recruit the admins btw? i think they should poach them from TL.
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I think no one really likes playing against random because you will be forced to play a suboptimal opening. You shouldn't really be surprised if people leave if you don't tell your race. Complaining at the ICCUP staff because you don't get free wins is just idiotic. You lost 50 seconds. How many minutes do the ICCUP admins have to sacrifice for this great injustice?
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both sides are wrong imo.
he shouldn't have left.
and OP shouldn't have wasted people's time with something so minor.
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Wow, Starcraft has really gone mechanical because of XvX builds.
There's like a designated counter to each build, that's why most players wouldn't play guys that use random and don't tell race once game starts.
But it's really hard to go 1 gate tech without a ramp like a previous guy said.
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Calgary25954 Posts
Appreciate that they get hundreds of complaints a day. It's not easy devoting time to every case. It's 100 points - just let it go.
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i sincerely doubt this iccup scenario was the main event that set your temper off try to calm down a bit and realize what made you so mad, and address that, not iccup.
just speculating of course
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Eh, no sympathy from me dude, I would have left as well -.- Actually I wouldn't have played in the first place if opponent is going random.
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I think the admin went a bit overboard, he should've just said "No." instead he wasted 2 seconds typing "No punish."
I play random occasionally. Like playing non-zerg on Battle Royale, some people are fine playing with a disadvantage, others aren't. You just have to deal with it.
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On May 15 2009 19:04 G.s)NarutO wrote: If he joines a game without "terran come" "zerg come" etc blabla. He can pick random. If someone can't deal with random he should quit broodwar.
And you open as P on medusa without being at a huge disadvantage against certain races... how? lol..
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On May 15 2009 16:42 zatic wrote: Sorry but what is your problem? I always leave if an R doesn't tell their race. I want to play Broodwar not a guessing game.
I moderately disagree. This is - in my opinion - what scouting is for. However, this is a personal preference, so I don't think it is of any use to argue about it.
What's the problem with the 50 seconds, just open a new game. If iccup admins had to handle that shit they'd have no time to deal with real misbehavior.
I strongly agree. I actually do not see any problem whatsoever that would support a complaint. Nothing happened in the first 50 seconds anyway, so no harm done. Just open a new game and find players that wanna play versus random.
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quick call the whaaaambulance
this isnt a disadvantage leave he just doesnt feel like guessing what you are and you possibly getting a free win
disadvantage is 4 scouting to proxy in someones base then leaving because your probe got caught and died
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