Adderall - Miracle Drug? - Page 7
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bluemanrocks
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K_ Takahashi
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tika
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QuanticHawk
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adhd isnt real? psychology is mostly false? HEY I CANT SEE GRAVITY, CLEARLY FALSE science isnt pick and fucking choose people | ||
ailouros
United States193 Posts
probably wouldn't be able to function without it. | ||
Deleted User 3420
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On November 12 2008 01:12 Hawk wrote: wow, a lot of stupid shit in this thread. adhd isnt real? psychology is mostly false? HEY I CANT SEE GRAVITY, CLEARLY FALSE science isnt pick and fucking choose people do you even know how psychology works? | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32026 Posts
please explain how it's 'false' they dont do research? they dont conduct experienments? what in gods name would make it a farce | ||
Hypnosis
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
On November 11 2008 03:15 tika wrote: so er ...what were/are your symtoms thruout ur life please A lack of short term concentration. To say it generally. I mean I remember names, and faces quiet easily. Conversations, lectures, or simple instructions dont always sink in, even when I am fully paying attention. Also a very wide variety of thought contributes to ADHD type symptoms (ie mind is wandering and does not take in all external communication as normal) - this could be, sometimes, a misdiagnoses where some experience this symptom but do not experience anything hindering them with instructions etc. | ||
Frits
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On November 11 2008 07:40 travis wrote: well I think that much of it is misleading, but I don't think that it's false and I think that it does uncover bit by bit how the brain functions. now psychology, that is something that I believe is largely false(though starting to get better). But I do think that the monist view of consciousness that neuroscientists have is false and misleading. so there is a chance it was me that gave you that impression By false psychology I guess you're talking about Freud and his psychoanalysis and other stuff like analysing ink dots. Though that might be true this is a thing of the past and most psychology that is taught nowadays is based on cognitive psychology which is definately scientific. And you have to remember that these older beliefs still helped pave the way for psychology today. If you think other aspects of it are false as well please enlighten me. Also psychology is HUGE, you can't just say 'it's largely false', what aspects are false? Which approaches? What beliefs in psychology are false? You're saying the scientific study of mental processes and behavior in general is largely false, why? | ||
HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On November 11 2008 04:24 Amber[LighT] wrote: Yah but taking a test in a certain period of time doesn't mean you will know everything. It's not like Adderall makes you smarter. Adderall makes you recall shit quicker and think faster, yes it makes you temporarily "smarter". It's kinda scary, like I said. | ||
MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
addreall will definitely help you focus but it has it's bad sides. the comedown can be terrible and it's often very difficult to eat while you're on it, hence lots of people losing weight when on a prescription. i do think it's a great drug that can help a lot of people out as long as it's taken in moderation. | ||
MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On November 12 2008 05:26 HeadBangaa wrote: Adderall makes you recall shit quicker and think faster, yes it makes you temporarily "smarter". It's kinda scary, like I said. it makes you focus more. it doesn't make you smarter. recalling stuff quickly is a matter of focus. | ||
HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
Imagine if we lived in a warrior society, and all the naturally-passive people received diagnoses of ADD: Aggression Deficit Disorder, to explain why they are pussed out and limp-wristed. The treatment of course being a steroidal regimen. This sounds about as reasonable as giving mind-wandering kids amphetamines to help them focus. Tell me if I'm missing something. On November 12 2008 05:50 MyLostTemple wrote: it makes you focus more. it doesn't make you smarter. recalling stuff quickly is a matter of focus. It spikes your mental ability for a period of time, call that what you want. You're mincing my words. This is not a mystery, it's basically meth. Meth heads are pretty sharp, you ever played scrabble at 5:30am?? | ||
MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
there's nothing inherently wrong about people who can't focus, but it's always better if we can help them in their lives, especially lives where they are expected to be on the ball for most of the day. | ||
NastyMarine
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On November 12 2008 06:17 NastyMarine wrote: See with me, I was always a calm child in school, so HeadBangaa, you are wrong here. My example wasn't talking about you, so no, I wasn't wrong. If you can name your "symptom" I can enumerate the norm that defines it. MyLostTemple, I agree with what you just said, I'm just saying people should have an open mind about this, both ways. | ||
NastyMarine
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tika
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On November 12 2008 05:50 MyLostTemple wrote: it makes you focus more. it doesn't make you smarter. recalling stuff quickly is a matter of focus. i reduced my alcohol and weed for a few weeks (after being alcoholic) and started reading engaging things. my memory and CONFIDENCE in my memory increased SUBSTANCIALLY. if you are a lazy alcho fun loving bitch like i am/was , but want to improve vital aspects of yourself, then quit drinking, smoking, and start to read engaging things. IT WORKS PEOPLE ITS NOT JUST SOME SPECULATION. YOU DO GET SATISFACTION FROM THIS TO THE POINT OF NOT WANTING TO DRINK EVER AGAIN...SO LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN IT (by continueing to keep yourself extremely engaged by other things) | ||
Motiva
United States1774 Posts
On November 12 2008 03:23 Hawk wrote: please explain how it's 'false' they dont do research? they dont conduct experienments? what in gods name would make it a farce hmmm I think you are right, there is a lot of misinformation in this thread. But not really that bad... I am a Psychology major and I feel that Psychology could by some perspectives considered largely false. This depends on your criteria, because since Neuroscience, Brian Scanning, Ect the list goes on are all not really very developed as a science, this leads a lot of the information in psychology to be very strong correlations. Correlations aren't necessarily true. Psychology is a correlation between what we observe and what we can prove in my eyes. Research + Experiments != that which cannot be proven in an experiment such as... motive, perceptions, the human mind.... which psychology is a study of, yes? and ADD/ADHD do exist, why is this an argument? Yes they are obviously over diagnosed.... Drugs aren't bad unless they cause long-term damage or a very strong addiction... but that's because addictions can destroy lives, not necessarily the drugs... Adderall is fine, even if you don't need it... It's just a matter of self control on all counts if you ask me... | ||
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