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On May 31 2023 11:45 TankTopTiger wrote: Isn't that the most compelling case against him?
Town marv has never been in this position because town marv does not get in this position.
1) Marv is either town or scum 2) If Marv is scum, Marv gets in trouble early 3) If Marv is town, Marv does not get in trouble early <= he's giving us this premise (which wasn't necessary but converges nicely with the modus ponens 4) Marv got in trouble early C: Marv is scum
Are there exceptions to every rule?
I am not saying he is 100 percent town, I am just suspending disbelief and doing my due diligence. LS was 100 percent mafia, marv was like 80% and improving IMO.
in my eyes either marv is mafia for the countless reasons stated, or Marv was super tunnelled and was reaching to try and get me lynched.
Certainly it felt like he was angling for me to go down since the start of the game, as it was with LS, AND VE for about a minute.
But maybe he was just not playing well in regards to me, OR I was also not playing well, (multiple townies suspect me for some reason that I can't figure out, dur to the fact taht I think its pretty confirmed I am town at this point)
I wanna operate under the impression that Marv is town and see where that goes to cover the other option (Marv and I are both town being shit and tunnelling each other) and there is mafia elsewhere nice and distant from the shit storm in the thread.
There is definitely something with Marv and LS, since the start of the game. Not sure what it means though, was LS engaging in WIFOM absolutely, but how many levels does it go? How short is a piece of string?
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To be clear, I'm not in anyway retracting my confidence on Marv.
But hypothetically, if Marv is not scum (big if), what you're doing now is distancing yourself from his mislynch which is something a redDP would need to do now that it's (about to be) 4-1.
In my head, I was dying tonight confident that you would carry the lynch out on Marv/LS. You're bouncing around too much for someone who's experienced the Marv meta firsthand.
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On May 31 2023 12:05 TankTopTiger wrote: To be clear, I'm not in anyway retracting my confidence on Marv.
But hypothetically, if Marv is not scum (big if), what you're doing now is distancing yourself from his mislynch which is something a redDP would need to do now that it's (about to be) 4-1.
In my head, I was dying tonight confident that you would carry the lynch out on Marv/LS. You're bouncing around too much for someone who's experienced the Marv meta firsthand.
It’s better to be uncertain at night.
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To be clear I would love it if the game was just scum is one of Marv and dp.
But it’s possible (however likely or unlikely) that there is someone that we are wrong about.
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Mmmm I don't trust this at all. If Marv somehow flips town, and I somehow survive, we are probably going to fight a bunch. This seems uncharacteristically unconfident and silly of you.
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On May 31 2023 12:20 TankTopTiger wrote: Mmmm I don't trust this at all. If Marv somehow flips town, and I somehow survive, we are probably going to fight a bunch. This seems uncharacteristically unconfident and silly of you.
I'm reading marv's scum games. I think tl.net This is the closest one I have found so far
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Provided to my memory, ironically enough, by LightningStrike
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But I ain't reading all that
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TBH I have no idea how you guys find the time or inclination to read other games while playing this one. I feel like reading all of this one is too much.
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On May 31 2023 13:11 TankTopTiger wrote: TBH I have no idea how you guys find the time or inclination to read other games while playing this one. I feel like reading all of this one is too much. Reading fast, and wanting to win.
But 45 pages of one man's filter?
No
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That is a victorious scum marv though,
Never gave up once. Carried that team through 500+ pages of absentee host hell.
(I was harshly dumped right a couple hours before EOD. Bad times.)
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Ill read his filter but not that game,
I played in that game and didn't read 300 pages.
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On May 31 2023 13:19 Alakaslam wrote: That is a victorious scum marv though,
Never gave up once. Carried that team through 500+ pages of absentee host hell.
(I was harshly dumped right a couple hours before EOD. Bad times.) Iirc I actually don't quite remember.
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Hmmmmmm
On January 18 2015 05:34 GlowingBear wrote: Oh, and, by the way, I think town marv would have rage quit after being called scum a lot
So reading Imperial Mafia to head down memory lane has yielded me some gold
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Hey guys, if yall are interested in a TL Mafia, vote the most townie to save their life, style game, then please type /in.
I may write up a prompt tomorrow so that we can get started. Remember, if you die in this game, you die in the game I'm hosting just like the last time I hosted mafia within mafia. Oh and if I die, everybody dies in my game.
The roles of everyone will go out tomorrow in spoiler tags. It will be an honor system. So nooo peaking!!
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On January 17 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote: can you even *imagine* what my filter *should* look like in a game this size?
not getting lynched when everyone realises you're mafia is quite the achievement, i'd say :p
There's no such thing as "stylistically" calling certain townies mafia. That's just incorrect play, nothing more, nothing less. And he wasn't the only one.
edit: like town needs to cut through what's important and what's not. calling obvious townies and likely townies mafia is what lets mafia hide!
Damdred and I were playing below our towngames, and noticeably so, and that's what was *actually* important, but it was beautifully drowned out (from scum PoV) from all the crackpot nonsense going on around us, hiding us in amongst the bs.
yeah.....
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On May 31 2023 13:28 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 20:14 marvellosity wrote: can you even *imagine* what my filter *should* look like in a game this size?
not getting lynched when everyone realises you're mafia is quite the achievement, i'd say :p
There's no such thing as "stylistically" calling certain townies mafia. That's just incorrect play, nothing more, nothing less. And he wasn't the only one.
edit: like town needs to cut through what's important and what's not. calling obvious townies and likely townies mafia is what lets mafia hide!
Damdred and I were playing below our towngames, and noticeably so, and that's what was *actually* important, but it was beautifully drowned out (from scum PoV) from all the crackpot nonsense going on around us, hiding us in amongst the bs. yeah..... Fair cop, more gold
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Turns out that is when my great aunt died.
Kind of a matriarch of our family. Figure I was Artanis upon learning what happened to Rasagal. Not like I would get Zeratul about it but I'd go protoss AWOL for a while.
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