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On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened.
So you're saying you banned one of the best North American players because of an altercation over a CPL team?
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Lol Chobo literally crying like he's a 12 year old. Get over yourself dude, its Brood War.
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On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened.
So.... Its cuz of cpl?
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On June 18 2019 05:50 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened. So you're saying you banned one of the best North American players because of an altercation over a CPL team?
I'm saying I banned a snake from benefiting from my hard work after he had directly sabotaged my work in the past. His skill level was never a factor in consideration - it is entirely separate and unrelated to what transpired. Similar to how FBM was banned for harassing community member families, Ty2 was banned for malicious behavior.
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On June 18 2019 05:54 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:50 Lumire wrote:On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened. So you're saying you banned one of the best North American players because of an altercation over a CPL team? I'm saying I banned a snake from benefiting from my hard work after he had directly sabotaged my work in the past. His skill level was never a factor in consideration - it is entirely separate and unrelated to what transpired. Similar to how FBM was banned for harassing community member families, Ty2 was banned for malicious behavior.
Honestly, this sounds like a personal grudge, not malicious behavior from what you've presented so far.
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On June 18 2019 05:53 JuicY_JuSt wrote:
Lol Chobo literally crying like he's a 12 year old. Get over yourself dude, its Brood War.
It's very simple, a person sabotaged my and my team's work, I am not going to let him benefit from any of my future projects. It's cause and effect, no need for emotions to enter the equation.
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On June 18 2019 05:56 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:54 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:50 Lumire wrote:On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened. So you're saying you banned one of the best North American players because of an altercation over a CPL team? I'm saying I banned a snake from benefiting from my hard work after he had directly sabotaged my work in the past. His skill level was never a factor in consideration - it is entirely separate and unrelated to what transpired. Similar to how FBM was banned for harassing community member families, Ty2 was banned for malicious behavior. Honestly, this sounds like a personal grudge, not malicious behavior from what you've presented so far.
He sabotaged my work. It's that simple. I don't need to justify or explain further than that.
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On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened.
What did I do that "was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work"? If it's the CPL thing I already apologized and tried my best to repair things, and frankly I think you overreacted and blew it way out of proportion. On top of that I think it's definitely vindictive and petty of you to be banning me from the NYC LAN.
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The real story is that they were both so passionate in getting me to S rank that their disagreements over how to coach me ended in the disintegration of their friendship, and a never-healing rift to be created in the community. I'm so powerful that my mere presence ends in destruction, wherever I wander.
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Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now.
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On June 18 2019 05:57 Ty2 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened. What did I do that "was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work"? If it's the CPL thing I already apologized and tried my best to repair things, and frankly I think you overreacted and blew it way out of proportion. On top of that I think it's definitely vindictive and petty of you to be banning me from the NYC LAN.
I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you what you already know. Your apologies are irrelevant after a certain point - the cycle of doing or saying something shitty, then apologizing, then doing or saying something shitty, then apologizing, has watered down their value. I am frankly uninterested in whether you believe it's petty or vindictive. I don't want to have anything more to do with you, and you will not benefit from any of my future work in the BW community - that is final.
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On June 18 2019 05:57 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 05:56 Lumire wrote:On June 18 2019 05:54 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:50 Lumire wrote:On June 18 2019 05:48 Jealous wrote:On June 18 2019 05:41 Ty2 wrote:
Yah, it is really petty and I would like for you to reconsider the ban. I'd love to go to the NYC LAN to hang out and play with people in a community I've dedicated a lot of my time and effort into. What you did, on numerous occasions, was actively malicious and resulted in the loss of hours of work. I am not interested in having you benefit from any of my future efforts after the way my work was treated by you. If you are the one spreading rumors that it was "just a minor misunderstanding" then you are clearly presenting a very limited and self-favoring perspective of the situation. I was doing you a favor, at the behest of lazersnipe, to keep this under wraps so that it doesn't cause undue drama but if you're going to be trying to cause issues I have no problem explaining the full reason for your ban. I don't think it's a mystery why out of nowhere, a bunch of people show up trying to discuss your potential participation in this tournament, which basically means you went back on your end of the agreement we reached not a week ago - which is completely in character, I guess. The decision is final and will not be changed, no matter how many people you convince of your innocence with your subjective and biased recounting of what happened. So you're saying you banned one of the best North American players because of an altercation over a CPL team? I'm saying I banned a snake from benefiting from my hard work after he had directly sabotaged my work in the past. His skill level was never a factor in consideration - it is entirely separate and unrelated to what transpired. Similar to how FBM was banned for harassing community member families, Ty2 was banned for malicious behavior. Honestly, this sounds like a personal grudge, not malicious behavior from what you've presented so far. He sabotaged my work. It's that simple. I don't need to justify or explain further than that.
So you ban people from LANs based on personal grudges? Good to know.
Almost everyone else in the community would want ty2 at a LAN. He has done almost nothing "malicious" to anyone else in the community.
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On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now.
Who the fuck is this guy?
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On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now.
I appreciate the sentiment but please let's not escalate things. There is not going to be any violence at the event, and there never will be, no matter the circumstance.
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Ty2 is one of the kindest people in the community and one of the best players on the continent. I know you don't like him very much personally, but this is one of the weakest moves by a tournament organizer I can imagine. Please consider talking to Ty2 and forgiving him for whatever he did to you in the past and move on. You've also been given a lot of second chances, Jealous, so why not be the bigger person here and let him come?
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On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now.
lol there is a difference between a fan club and friends, but seeing as how you don't have either I can understand how you wouldn't understand.
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On June 18 2019 06:03 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now. I appreciate the sentiment but please let's not escalate things. There is not going to be any violence at the event, and there never will be, no matter the circumstance.
Is that your alt?
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I know its abundantly clear I was late to sign up (thanks for the gracious 1 week signup time period for those who don't frequent TL) but what I'm wondering is my chances of getting a computer as a person who is interested but did not make original signup. Thanks,
Yours forever in this life & the next,
ModelsTV
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On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now.
Yes, let's leave the thread to the adults that threaten people online.
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On June 18 2019 06:07 Lumire wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2019 06:01 nahyunjung wrote:
Ty2 you look like a child coming into the thread like this, grow up and use a PM and keep your fan club out of this. If you can't accomplish things yourself in a mature manner in a private conversation with Jealous, that's the end of it. Stop destroying this thread for the adults. If you show up at this LAN you're going to have a problem with me, now. Yes, let's leave the thread to the adults that threaten people online.
Models just posted, good timing
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