On October 04 2016 05:57 Elentos wrote:
So am I the only person not bothered by the ling skin?
So am I the only person not bothered by the ling skin?
I don't see any problem with the Ling skin at all
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On October 04 2016 05:57 Elentos wrote: So am I the only person not bothered by the ling skin? I don't see any problem with the Ling skin at all | ||
KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This patch changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. | ||
KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. True, my "you" was more of a general you, shouldn't have quoted you. Anyway. Don't disagree that the technology is there, but I don't know how many really care about this. Guess thats why Blizzard did a poll on this. | ||
AndYouSayHeDoesntHac
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[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:06 KeksX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. True, my "you" was more of a general you, shouldn't have quoted you. Anyway. Don't disagree that the technology is there, but I don't know how many really care about this. Guess thats why Blizzard did a poll on this. which poll ? | ||
lestye
United States4106 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. The technology is there, but there's a reason why Dota 2 and LoL or any other game with cosmetics doesn't do it: it defeats the entire purpose of selling cosmetics if someone can flick a switch and deny you being a special snowflake. | ||
KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:06 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. True, my "you" was more of a general you, shouldn't have quoted you. Anyway. Don't disagree that the technology is there, but I don't know how many really care about this. Guess thats why Blizzard did a poll on this. which poll ? They polled (random?) StarCraft 2 players and asked them about what types of microtransactions they'd like to see, if they would annoy them/buy them. There was a leak thread on reddit about this. | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:12 KeksX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:08 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:06 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. True, my "you" was more of a general you, shouldn't have quoted you. Anyway. Don't disagree that the technology is there, but I don't know how many really care about this. Guess thats why Blizzard did a poll on this. which poll ? They polled (random?) StarCraft 2 players and asked them about what types of microtransactions they'd like to see, if they would annoy them/buy them. There was a leak thread on reddit about this. interesting, thanks | ||
LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:09 lestye wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. The technology is there, but there's a reason why Dota 2 and LoL or any other game with cosmetics doesn't do it: it defeats the entire purpose of selling cosmetics if someone can flick a switch and deny you being a special snowflake. This is, of course, a fair point. But you can also understand why a middle finger rotating above my opponent's hatcheries could seem out of place and lore to me. | ||
KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11132 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:09 lestye wrote: On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. The technology is there, but there's a reason why Dota 2 and LoL or any other game with cosmetics doesn't do it: it defeats the entire purpose of selling cosmetics if someone can flick a switch and deny you being a special snowflake. This is, of course, a fair point. But you can also understand why a middle finger rotating above my opponent's hatcheries could seem out of place and lore to me. The lore train left the station long ago when they exaggerated decals on the ground, added floating clan icons and trophies, and occasionally change our workers for special occasions (Warhound workers, party hats, birthday cakes). | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:18 KeksX wrote: I think the very least Blizzard has to do keep all this stuff moderated. As in, cool unit skins yes, floating middle fingers no. thing is, floating middle fingers are already in game (just edit your clan decal to a middle finger, job done). | ||
[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:19 eviltomahawk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:15 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:09 lestye wrote: On October 04 2016 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:00 KeksX wrote: On October 04 2016 05:56 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 05:52 Charoisaur wrote: On October 04 2016 05:23 Turi wrote: I hate it. I really do. I would not care if you could turn of skins and decals and shit. Than it would not matter to me. But so we all get the shitty decals and skins (ling skin everyone?) which actually hurt the game play experience for people who play this seriously. I do not want to miss a widow mine because my opponent sprayed a decal over it (that will happen, you all know that, right?). Again, give me a option to turn off ALL decals or skins and I would be a happy camper. But that will not happen, at least i do not see it happen. I agree with this. the ling skin is already very annoying. It's fine that they make changes that are apparently heavily requested but it shouldn't worsen the gameplay experience of the regular players. especially since I doubt this has a lot of potential to attract new players. It's good and all, but it won't make sc2 skyrocket overnight. So yeah, I think they should care about the ones wanting a "standard" competitive experience too, they're the ones actually playing the game. You're completely missing the point about this. Right now, StarCraft does not generate a lot money out of more competitive players. Even if the eSports scene attracts casual players, there's a high chance they will never pay any money. So they don't even have an incentive to get more. This changes that fact and Blizzard can monetize ranked just as they do with Co-Op (and look how much content this mode gets. Thats not welfare, thats probably off of people buying commanders). Also it's funny that the most notorious balance whiners (at least for me) are the most vocal about skins being annoying. I'm not missing the point at all. I get the reasons why they're doing all of this, I'm really fine with it and I hope Blizzard gets money so that they keep working on the game. That being said, a button to turn off skins / custom decals / all those distracting ingame things for those who are annoyed by them would not change anything for those who enjoy them and would really make the competitive experience smoother. And don't tell me the technology isn't there, you can have different colors or graphics settings on different monitors. The technology is there, but there's a reason why Dota 2 and LoL or any other game with cosmetics doesn't do it: it defeats the entire purpose of selling cosmetics if someone can flick a switch and deny you being a special snowflake. This is, of course, a fair point. But you can also understand why a middle finger rotating above my opponent's hatcheries could seem out of place and lore to me. The lore train left the station long ago when they exaggerated decals on the ground, added floating clan icons and trophies, and occasionally change our workers for special occasions (Warhound workers, party hats, birthday cakes). yes, and that's something I deem regrettable. Although I'm pretty sure a lot of people enjoy that. I guess it's a matter of taste. | ||
eviltomahawk
United States11132 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:19 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:18 KeksX wrote: I think the very least Blizzard has to do keep all this stuff moderated. As in, cool unit skins yes, floating middle fingers no. thing is, floating middle fingers are already in game. If they're clan icons, then they're supposed to abide by the terms of service, in which case they should be reported. | ||
Skalbap
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[PkF] Wire
France24187 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:21 eviltomahawk wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:19 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:18 KeksX wrote: I think the very least Blizzard has to do keep all this stuff moderated. As in, cool unit skins yes, floating middle fingers no. thing is, floating middle fingers are already in game. If they're clan icons, then they're supposed to abide by the terms of service, in which case they should be reported. a middle finger can be deemed offensive so it can be reported succesfully I guess. But let's say a Rotti head or a Kappa meme. They're not offensive per se. Still, I find them out of place and therefore annoying. But I guess that's just me | ||
eviltomahawk
United States11132 Posts
On October 04 2016 06:24 [PkF] Wire wrote: Show nested quote + On October 04 2016 06:21 eviltomahawk wrote: On October 04 2016 06:19 [PkF] Wire wrote: On October 04 2016 06:18 KeksX wrote: I think the very least Blizzard has to do keep all this stuff moderated. As in, cool unit skins yes, floating middle fingers no. thing is, floating middle fingers are already in game. If they're clan icons, then they're supposed to abide by the terms of service, in which case they should be reported. a middle finger can be deemed offensive so it can be reported succesfully I guess. But let's say a Rotti head or a Kappa meme. They're not offensive per se. Still, I find them out of place and therefore annoying. But I guess that's just me That's fine I suppose. An option to limit cosmetics has always been a hotly desired features across many games. But personally, I want to continue sporting my unimpressed Flash face around my town halls. | ||
Cricketer12
United States13864 Posts
On October 04 2016 03:36 Musicus wrote: Koreans are being banned from GSL and SSL to keep things fair for foreigners? | ||
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