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i really dont like the change! liquidhearth was already a bad idea!
teamliquid is the site that i visit for an overview of gaming streams. i guess i will have to take a look at 3 different team liquid homepages to take a look at 3 different games... that will most likely mean that i wont even check for sc2 anymore.
there has to be a better way than this!
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I only live and breath Starcraft so I am in love with this change.
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On May 12 2014 17:00 icystorage wrote: because having two tabs in your browser is really a daunting and inconvenient task I know me well and can promise you that this is not how I function. I found TL some years ago and was happy about the whole package. During the last years that feeling was lost bit by bit. Admins closed Threads where community members posted Infos about something new that happend and open it on their own. This resulted in less community generated content. Then TL+ hit the site, which was a further step towards community seperation. And now, after Liquidhearth, comes the next communitysplit.
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When are you going to add "LiquidStarCraft" ? Please add this
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wow, really great news. The new calendar bar is flipping amazing. Really impressed by how much TL is dedicated to improving it's own features.
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On May 12 2014 17:00 icystorage wrote: because having two tabs in your browser is really a daunting and inconvenient task I see where he is coming from. He uses tl as a hub and now he can't do what he used to be able to.
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Happy to get a non StarCraft game off the site. You guys have fun over there!
Now only one game left to leave, and we are set!
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i like the change, good luck ldota11
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Ok, I have a brilliant idea. What if you guys would add something in the filter called "Dota 2 News". This is turned off by default, in order to not scare people, but if you turn it on it would put links to LiquidDota news articles in your Featured News and Community News tabs. Basically like this: + Show Spoiler + But then in the sidebar.
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I don't like this at all, but I guess I'm the minority and i follow more then one game then according to you. Well looks like im dropping the daily liquidbrowsing and using gosugamers instead, rather have all the information at one place then having to browse multiple sites..
Too bad, this does not make sense at all in my eyes, except for the potential multiple pageviews and more income.
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I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net
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On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote: I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point?
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On May 12 2014 17:35 zul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote: I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point? You have to remember that for every person who has an account AND is logged in all the time AND uses the filters appropriately, there are five other people who don't have an account/isn't logged in/hasn't figured out how the filters work. What we've done here is admittedly less convenient for that one person who knows how to work TL perfectly because they've been here for years and years, but the average new visitor isn't going to want to bother to learn how TL works when they can just go to a dedicated Dota site elsewhere.
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I think the liquiddota site looks and is laid out better personally, at least the right side bar portion. However I'm one of those people that came to TL as a hub. I come here, check the right side to see if anyone I want to see is streaming. I'll scroll down looking at the left side checking out whats happening in the general forums, then check the dota forums, maybe look around elsewhere, see if there are any interesting blog titles, etc. If nothing that interested me was going on then I'd go to twitch and look for some other game streams, but I'd always pop in here to check if anything was going down. Now that's all basically been split in 2. Is it the end of the world? No, but it does suck.
I'm an old man, I like what I like the way I like it. I keep my attention focused in one place, out of sight out of mind so switching between 2 tabs to do the work of what only took 1 until today basically means one site isn't going to be used really. I used to watch SC2, now its a fairly rare occurrence outside of 1 or 2 streamers or big tournaments with players I want to see. I mostly watch DotA streams so losing those SC2 streams on the right bar doesn't bother me so much as the general forums loss at liquiddota.
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On May 12 2014 17:49 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:35 zul wrote:On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote: I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point? You have to remember that for every person who has an account AND is logged in all the time AND uses the filters appropriately, there are five other people who don't have an account/isn't logged in/hasn't figured out how the filters work. What we've done here is admittedly less convenient for that one person who knows how to work TL perfectly because they've been here for years and years, but the average new visitor isn't going to want to bother to learn how TL works when they can just go to a dedicated Dota site elsewhere.
So unregistered people visiting via LiquidDota could automatically have everything filtered out except Dota2. Visiting via TL.net filters everything except SC2. Where would be the problem with that?
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On May 12 2014 17:49 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:35 zul wrote:On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote: I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point? You have to remember that for every person who has an account AND is logged in all the time AND uses the filters appropriately, there are five other people who don't have an account/isn't logged in/hasn't figured out how the filters work. What we've done here is admittedly less convenient for that one person who knows how to work TL perfectly because they've been here for years and years, but the average new visitor isn't going to want to bother to learn how TL works when they can just go to a dedicated Dota site elsewhere.
Sorry if ignorant aren't the filters just for the left side of the site. Like for example how crowded and crazy the events and calender used to be before the shift(with dota stuff). Could you have that only be SC2 too with just a filter before? (I guess I was just a noob xD)
Anway I like these changes, pure Starcraft nerd and thats all I come here for. I don't think it feels like a major improvement but it is nice just having SC2 in the events and calander.
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Random idea. Would it be possible through some sort of wizardry to allow general forums (and other TL sections) to be crossed over to liquiddota but only as a filter setting? Like we can all change around what forums are shown and in what order on TL if you know how to (which apparently like 8 people do). What about allowing filtering on liquiddota where you could opt to pull in some of the TL forum sections? By default they wouldn't be there, but if you were logged into your account and knew how to filter you could have the option of having the TL general forum/blogs/sc2 tournament/etc sections show up on liquiddota so those of us that did use them could still participate while staying on our side of the proverbial fence thats been put up?
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On May 12 2014 17:59 DocHoliday wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:49 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 12 2014 17:35 zul wrote:On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote: I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point? You have to remember that for every person who has an account AND is logged in all the time AND uses the filters appropriately, there are five other people who don't have an account/isn't logged in/hasn't figured out how the filters work. What we've done here is admittedly less convenient for that one person who knows how to work TL perfectly because they've been here for years and years, but the average new visitor isn't going to want to bother to learn how TL works when they can just go to a dedicated Dota site elsewhere. So unregistered people visiting via LiquidDota could automatically have everything filtered out except Dota2. Visiting via TL.net filters everything except SC2. Where would be the problem with that? This was one of the options we considered, and in the end we decided it was not enough.
Consider what other benefits we have now on LD that we wouldn't have if we simply implemented a filter-via-URL. Just a few off the top of my head: 1) A 'Dota' feel. Believe me, little things like having Dota hero icons instead of old BW icons play a big part in first impressions for new visitors. 2) Calendar - this really is a HUGE deal; the one we have on TL is adequate for SC2 but is simply not nearly functional enough for Dota. 3) Future things like TLPD that are yet to be implemented.
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No offense, but the other site feels like a ghost town. It was great when it was a sub forum and I could check out or post in dota/other games/blogs etc. and it was all on the same page.
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I must say as someone that originally joined TL for SC2 and transitioned to dota this makes a lot of sense. While I used to follow a lot of SC2, I just don't have the time to follow the scene any more - so it makes sense that the site reflects what I am visiting for. Bold move, but I like it.
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