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oh so thats why it was gone this morning. )
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On May 12 2014 15:02 SilverSkyLark wrote:oh so thats why it was gone this morning. ) lol you didn't figure out why it was gone?
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On May 12 2014 14:39 boesthius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 14:22 iNteLStyLe wrote:Posted this in the other thread on LiquidDota.com: So how much did you guys get paid by Riot to leave LoL alongside dying game SC2 by removing Dota/Hearthstone? Lets be honest, when people think of Team Liquid they think of www.teamliquid.net, and whats on the front page? LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament news on the left, and a bunch of news about SC2 players retiring. Yeah I see where this is going, Well Played! TL Really really dissapointed I'm just going to copypaste what Neo said in the reddit post: Show nested quote +I think the Dota2 community should just appreciate what Liquid has done instead of looking for conspiracy theories, haha. I can say without a doubt that a TL LoL standalone site will not happen. I play League and am more invested in League when it comes to an esport than anything else now, and this kind of posting is just really silly to me. You're reaching - I mean how does TL have anything to do with sc2 players retiring? I'm going to go look at the front page right now; and this is what I see: - Introducing liquiddota
- TI4 Compendium Released
- Proleague Round 3
- DK Winning Aint Easy
- Community News - SC2 article, SC2 article, SC2 article, Dota, sc2 article, Dota, Dota, Sc2 x4, Sc:BW, Dota 2
- Featured Articles: Dota 2 6.81 Patch, 20-20 With Dota 2 Alliance member, Top 10 games of Dota 2, Life winning Dreamhack(sc2)
- Featured Video - Gomtv game - Starcraft 2
- Spotlight - Sc2 map submissions, 20-20 with LoL player flame, NSA2 Recap(smash), Heroes of the Storm, Chobra interview
I think what you're trying to refer to is the sidebar, which is, more or less, a bunch of quicklinks into the forum. Even if you use a little common sense - wouldn't you think that TL would have done a LITTLE bit more than a small spotlight of two league threads if they were getting paid by Riot to make LoL an official part of Teamliquid? Come on. You can disagree and not like the change, but at least try to make some reasonable claims to why it's happening.
Just saying the amount of LoL content on a website aimed specifically at BW/SC2 (so much so that they moved Hearthstone/Dota to different, separate sites) is a bit confounding. So the plan is to seperate content that TL covers to provide better content for those original communities, and yet the main site page that everyone knows and goes to when first thinking of TL (teamliquid.net) has featured LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament discussion, LoL General, LoL Champion Discussion... Really?
If you like LoL thats fine, I won't judge you but honestly why should there be even close to the amount of coverage that there is on a SC:BW/SC2 website?
Also, why are the professional LoL players streams labelled as "featured" streams? This site doesn't cover LoL in any official capacity.
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On May 12 2014 10:18 Hot_Bid wrote: [The split] returns TL to its roots, a StarCraft site. If only! I'd actually welcome moving SC2 content to a spin-off site.
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On May 12 2014 15:03 TheEmulator wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 15:02 SilverSkyLark wrote:oh so thats why it was gone this morning. ) lol you didn't figure out why it was gone? I told a few of my friends that it was because Liquid dropped their dota team and they seemed to believe that until the announcement
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On May 12 2014 15:00 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 14:53 crms wrote:On May 12 2014 14:00 Navi wrote: The bottom line seems to be a trade-off between an inconvenience for existing users in the hopes of increasing future user count. This is exactly correct. These changes suck for the TL regulars but may prove healthy for growth and ad revenue. The loyal TL fan base isn't going anywhere. There is a reason we choose TL over other sites (hint: it's not just the games you cover)so by splitting the sections they effectively get all of us long time loyal schmucks to be inconvenienced by clicking multiple sites and open multiple ads, while also increasing (hopefully) community growth and activity in each liquid-branch. I'm not typing this out like it's some dubious plot with admins laughing manically in hidden rooms but for a long time TL browser, these changes without a doubt, just. plain. suck. It's not the end of the world and the sky isn't falling, there are no pitchforks to grab and nobody needs to be dramatic (yes I threatened suicide earlier) but it does truly suck. Maybe in the end these sister sites will work out and each individual game community will flourish, maybe it will result in more revenue to produce better, higher quality content, who knows. What is done is done. I do have one thing to say though and that is that these changes genuinely seem counter-intuitive to what made TL 'my' site. It wasn't that TL covered broodwar that made me lurk for years and years, plenty of sites covered broodwar. It wasn't that TL transitioned to SC2 and championed 'esports' around the globe, it wasn't the team or the players, it wasn't the dota2 or hearthstone additions, it was the community. The 'team liquid' community, not the "brood war", the "SC2", or the "DOTA" community, but the teamliquid. com community. Love you all.* *kinda Fake community member detected.
I'm literally gonna suicide for real now.
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No DotA...
Pls give us LiquidCSGO its so badly needed
Pls
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On May 12 2014 15:04 iNteLStyLe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 14:39 boesthius wrote:On May 12 2014 14:22 iNteLStyLe wrote:Posted this in the other thread on LiquidDota.com: So how much did you guys get paid by Riot to leave LoL alongside dying game SC2 by removing Dota/Hearthstone? Lets be honest, when people think of Team Liquid they think of www.teamliquid.net, and whats on the front page? LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament news on the left, and a bunch of news about SC2 players retiring. Yeah I see where this is going, Well Played! TL Really really dissapointed I'm just going to copypaste what Neo said in the reddit post: I think the Dota2 community should just appreciate what Liquid has done instead of looking for conspiracy theories, haha. I can say without a doubt that a TL LoL standalone site will not happen. I play League and am more invested in League when it comes to an esport than anything else now, and this kind of posting is just really silly to me. You're reaching - I mean how does TL have anything to do with sc2 players retiring? I'm going to go look at the front page right now; and this is what I see: - Introducing liquiddota
- TI4 Compendium Released
- Proleague Round 3
- DK Winning Aint Easy
- Community News - SC2 article, SC2 article, SC2 article, Dota, sc2 article, Dota, Dota, Sc2 x4, Sc:BW, Dota 2
- Featured Articles: Dota 2 6.81 Patch, 20-20 With Dota 2 Alliance member, Top 10 games of Dota 2, Life winning Dreamhack(sc2)
- Featured Video - Gomtv game - Starcraft 2
- Spotlight - Sc2 map submissions, 20-20 with LoL player flame, NSA2 Recap(smash), Heroes of the Storm, Chobra interview
I think what you're trying to refer to is the sidebar, which is, more or less, a bunch of quicklinks into the forum. Even if you use a little common sense - wouldn't you think that TL would have done a LITTLE bit more than a small spotlight of two league threads if they were getting paid by Riot to make LoL an official part of Teamliquid? Come on. You can disagree and not like the change, but at least try to make some reasonable claims to why it's happening. Just saying the amount of LoL content on a website aimed specifically at BW/SC2 (so much so that they moved Hearthstone/Dota to different, separate sites) is a bit confounding. So the plan is to seperate content that TL covers to provide better content for those original communities, and yet the main site page that everyone knows and goes to when first thinking of TL (teamliquid.net) has featured LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament discussion, LoL General, LoL Champion Discussion... Really? If you like LoL thats fine, I won't judge you but honestly why should there be even close to the amount of coverage that there is on a SC:BW/SC2 website? Also, why are the professional LoL players streams labelled as "featured" streams? This site doesn't cover LoL in any official capacity. I find myself a little surprised that I'm responding to such a post but I guess it's for clarity's sake so you don't continue to detract from all the hard work the TL Reds have put in.
The reason why you see so much League stuff on TL.net right now is because it's what's left over from the blocked forum layout that was implemented. Tournaments used to have SC2, Dota2, BW, and League, same with General and the other blocks. Now that Dota2 has moved to LP.net, the front page looks like League is taking up more room now (as 1 of 3 games on TL, when it was once 1 of 4 games with Dota2).
But wait, don't worry! In a few days, we will be returning to an older forum layout where League will take its rightful place in a small corner of TL.net under "Other Games". StarCraft2 and BW will return to its former glory on TeamLiquid, yay!
I hope that calms your nerves a little about the impending Riot takeover. Cheers.
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Segregation sucks. New features are cool, but they could have been integrated into the main site. Not a fan.
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I wish we didn't have to distract mods by talking about ridiculous Riot conspiracies and could instead focus on more intelligent discussion of the split.
oh well.
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On May 12 2014 15:17 Whiplash wrote: Segregation sucks. New features are cool, but they could have been integrated into the main site. Not a fan.
On May 11 2014 08:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: We've spent a lot of time and energy on developing the features that will now be debuting on the Dota site. Once we figure out the bugs (and get a little bit of rest) we'll begin the process of implementing those features on TL.
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On May 12 2014 15:14 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 15:04 iNteLStyLe wrote:On May 12 2014 14:39 boesthius wrote:On May 12 2014 14:22 iNteLStyLe wrote:Posted this in the other thread on LiquidDota.com: So how much did you guys get paid by Riot to leave LoL alongside dying game SC2 by removing Dota/Hearthstone? Lets be honest, when people think of Team Liquid they think of www.teamliquid.net, and whats on the front page? LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament news on the left, and a bunch of news about SC2 players retiring. Yeah I see where this is going, Well Played! TL Really really dissapointed I'm just going to copypaste what Neo said in the reddit post: I think the Dota2 community should just appreciate what Liquid has done instead of looking for conspiracy theories, haha. I can say without a doubt that a TL LoL standalone site will not happen. I play League and am more invested in League when it comes to an esport than anything else now, and this kind of posting is just really silly to me. You're reaching - I mean how does TL have anything to do with sc2 players retiring? I'm going to go look at the front page right now; and this is what I see: - Introducing liquiddota
- TI4 Compendium Released
- Proleague Round 3
- DK Winning Aint Easy
- Community News - SC2 article, SC2 article, SC2 article, Dota, sc2 article, Dota, Dota, Sc2 x4, Sc:BW, Dota 2
- Featured Articles: Dota 2 6.81 Patch, 20-20 With Dota 2 Alliance member, Top 10 games of Dota 2, Life winning Dreamhack(sc2)
- Featured Video - Gomtv game - Starcraft 2
- Spotlight - Sc2 map submissions, 20-20 with LoL player flame, NSA2 Recap(smash), Heroes of the Storm, Chobra interview
I think what you're trying to refer to is the sidebar, which is, more or less, a bunch of quicklinks into the forum. Even if you use a little common sense - wouldn't you think that TL would have done a LITTLE bit more than a small spotlight of two league threads if they were getting paid by Riot to make LoL an official part of Teamliquid? Come on. You can disagree and not like the change, but at least try to make some reasonable claims to why it's happening. Just saying the amount of LoL content on a website aimed specifically at BW/SC2 (so much so that they moved Hearthstone/Dota to different, separate sites) is a bit confounding. So the plan is to seperate content that TL covers to provide better content for those original communities, and yet the main site page that everyone knows and goes to when first thinking of TL (teamliquid.net) has featured LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament discussion, LoL General, LoL Champion Discussion... Really? If you like LoL thats fine, I won't judge you but honestly why should there be even close to the amount of coverage that there is on a SC:BW/SC2 website? Also, why are the professional LoL players streams labelled as "featured" streams? This site doesn't cover LoL in any official capacity. I find myself a little surprised that I'm responding to such a post but I guess it's for clarity's sake so you don't continue to detract from all the hard work the TL Reds have put in. The reason why you see so much League stuff on TL.net right now is because it's what's left over from the blocked forum layout that was implemented. Tournaments used to have SC2, Dota2, BW, and League, same with General and the other blocks. Now that Dota2 has moved to LP.net, the front page looks like League is taking up more room now (as 1 of 3 games on TL, when it was once 1 of 4 games with Dota2). But wait, don't worry! In a few days, we will be returning to an older forum layout where League will take its rightful place in a small corner of TL.net under "Other Games". StarCraft2 and BW will return to its former glory on TeamLiquid, yay! I hope that calms your nerves a little about the impending Riot takeover. Cheers.
I find myself a little surprised that you had to take such a condescending attitude towards a very valid point: What do you think when I see you guys suddenly moving Hearthstone/Dota to seperate pages, opening www.TeamLiquid.net and seeing this? http://i.imgur.com/ymaOFSP.jpg
Maybe you should try to put things into perspective before you act like a smug asshole to someone else online, Cheers!
For what its worth I appreciate you clarifying it, even through your rather negative and demeaning tone and diction.
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I dont like the split. But the layout and design is very nice. Maybe ask the community next time, because the community = teamliquid.net
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FUCK YEAH. Good bye to TL, will only be visiting occasionally for the BW content and SC2 results. You're still my first love!
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On May 12 2014 15:28 iNteLStyLe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 15:14 NeoIllusions wrote:On May 12 2014 15:04 iNteLStyLe wrote:On May 12 2014 14:39 boesthius wrote:On May 12 2014 14:22 iNteLStyLe wrote:Posted this in the other thread on LiquidDota.com: So how much did you guys get paid by Riot to leave LoL alongside dying game SC2 by removing Dota/Hearthstone? Lets be honest, when people think of Team Liquid they think of www.teamliquid.net, and whats on the front page? LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament news on the left, and a bunch of news about SC2 players retiring. Yeah I see where this is going, Well Played! TL Really really dissapointed I'm just going to copypaste what Neo said in the reddit post: I think the Dota2 community should just appreciate what Liquid has done instead of looking for conspiracy theories, haha. I can say without a doubt that a TL LoL standalone site will not happen. I play League and am more invested in League when it comes to an esport than anything else now, and this kind of posting is just really silly to me. You're reaching - I mean how does TL have anything to do with sc2 players retiring? I'm going to go look at the front page right now; and this is what I see: - Introducing liquiddota
- TI4 Compendium Released
- Proleague Round 3
- DK Winning Aint Easy
- Community News - SC2 article, SC2 article, SC2 article, Dota, sc2 article, Dota, Dota, Sc2 x4, Sc:BW, Dota 2
- Featured Articles: Dota 2 6.81 Patch, 20-20 With Dota 2 Alliance member, Top 10 games of Dota 2, Life winning Dreamhack(sc2)
- Featured Video - Gomtv game - Starcraft 2
- Spotlight - Sc2 map submissions, 20-20 with LoL player flame, NSA2 Recap(smash), Heroes of the Storm, Chobra interview
I think what you're trying to refer to is the sidebar, which is, more or less, a bunch of quicklinks into the forum. Even if you use a little common sense - wouldn't you think that TL would have done a LITTLE bit more than a small spotlight of two league threads if they were getting paid by Riot to make LoL an official part of Teamliquid? Come on. You can disagree and not like the change, but at least try to make some reasonable claims to why it's happening. Just saying the amount of LoL content on a website aimed specifically at BW/SC2 (so much so that they moved Hearthstone/Dota to different, separate sites) is a bit confounding. So the plan is to seperate content that TL covers to provide better content for those original communities, and yet the main site page that everyone knows and goes to when first thinking of TL (teamliquid.net) has featured LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament discussion, LoL General, LoL Champion Discussion... Really? If you like LoL thats fine, I won't judge you but honestly why should there be even close to the amount of coverage that there is on a SC:BW/SC2 website? Also, why are the professional LoL players streams labelled as "featured" streams? This site doesn't cover LoL in any official capacity. I find myself a little surprised that I'm responding to such a post but I guess it's for clarity's sake so you don't continue to detract from all the hard work the TL Reds have put in. The reason why you see so much League stuff on TL.net right now is because it's what's left over from the blocked forum layout that was implemented. Tournaments used to have SC2, Dota2, BW, and League, same with General and the other blocks. Now that Dota2 has moved to LP.net, the front page looks like League is taking up more room now (as 1 of 3 games on TL, when it was once 1 of 4 games with Dota2). But wait, don't worry! In a few days, we will be returning to an older forum layout where League will take its rightful place in a small corner of TL.net under "Other Games". StarCraft2 and BW will return to its former glory on TeamLiquid, yay! I hope that calms your nerves a little about the impending Riot takeover. Cheers. I find myself a little surprised that you had to take such a condescending attitude towards a very valid point: What do you think when I see you guys suddenly moving Hearthstone/Dota to seperate pages, opening www.TeamLiquid.net and seeing this? http://i.imgur.com/ymaOFSP.jpgMaybe you should try to put things into perspective before you act like a smug asshole to someone else online, Cheers! For what its worth I appreciate you clarifying it, even through your rather negative and demeaning tone and diction. Whoa whoa whoa. I'm pretty sure I delivered you as much smugness as you deserved, good sir! Had you voiced your concerns appropriately, I would have reply in a more genial tone. :3 But instead, you hastily jumped to the conclusion that Riot had somehow paid off TeamLiquid (not once on just reddit, not twice on just reddit and TL but three different times to perpetual some kind of scare) to shift Dota2 away from the main site and cleverly disguise it as misdirection! Good thing R1CH can be paid off like that and spend all that time coding to make LiquidDota looks so nice. I hope he was rewarded generously!
But in all honesty, if you had opened TL.net without your personal settings, you'd see that, hey League of Legends isn't taking up all that frontpage space on TeamLiquid's homepage. All that happened was Dota2 was moved out! But it was your own filters that removed SC2 and BW in the first place that suddenly made it appear League was everywhere.
P.S. If you had said "hey yo, League is a shit game, why is it taking up all this space on TL?!", I think I'd be ok with it, haha. That would be your opinion and more power to you. But instead, you had to make this redonkulous notion of how TL got paid off by Riot and that's why I took the time to be smug. You had zero evidence to the contrary (besides your own skewed (filtered) point of view) but you jumped to the most absurd conclusion possible.
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i hope we will still have some dota events listed in the calendar with liquipedia puzzle. It was very convinient for me as mainly starcraft guy who likes to watch some dota from time to time
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I don't like it at all, that's all I have to say. TL DotA content will get less clicks from me, similar to Hearthstone does. But that's not my decision.
Truthfully speaking, TL with this kinda became a lot less attractive for most people. I think LiquidDota will become bigger than TL.net, because Dota 2 is growing.
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Boo! Now I need to visit two separate sites to get the same information as before. Definitely a bad change for me and the way I was using TL. I don't know what was so terrible about having both games on the same site. There was an easy filtering mechanism anyway for those not interested in Dota2.
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