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soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
May 12 2014 02:56 GMT
#281
It's funny that the happiest part about this for me is that TL.net is returning to its original roots of SC exclusively. But best of luck and fun to the Dota community :D
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 03:08:13
May 12 2014 02:57 GMT
#282
On May 12 2014 11:30 sumsaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 11:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@DwD: 100-150 users suddenly became a majoirty at TL?

If Community / Blogs / VideoStreams problems would get partly solved, you won't see anyone objecting at all, I bet.

Only those who prefers to visit just one site for all their TL needs. Now the dota fans need to go to one for the dota 2 content and the main one for the non-gaming content (or sc2/lol), as the community forum section isn't shared across sites (because it's that section which keeps most people active on the forums, right?).

I am pretty bad at explaining things clearly, but here's my two cents anyway.

Everybody loves and respect TL stuff and TL community. But when admins openly explain to people: "Guys, we want to achieve even more results with our constant efforts, we want to bring more people into the TL awesomeness, we want to make our site even more useful for a Dota and SC2 ACTIVE followers, wouldn't it be nice? All support we need from you is just opening an extra window in your browser when you visit TL.net and you won't miss anything, believe us" and are getting "How you dare to make my life even more uncomfortable and complicated than it's already. You will break the most mature esports community apart, plz stop" in response.

Does it take one to belong to TL minority to see whose ideas sound more reasonable and less egoistic?
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
May 12 2014 02:57 GMT
#283
This is a pretty grave mistake.
eX Killy
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan906 Posts
May 12 2014 02:58 GMT
#284
On May 12 2014 11:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@DwD: 100-150 users suddenly became a majoirty at TL?

If Community / Blogs / VideoStreams problems would get partly solved, you won't see anyone objecting at all, I bet.

honestly? yeah. my only problem is that i cant talk about the nhl, watch dota streams and then hop onto the eve corp thread on one tab.
telling it like it is
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 12 2014 02:59 GMT
#285
On May 12 2014 11:43 Gofarman wrote:
Good luck on the launch.

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good riddance

not cool dude
:)
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
May 12 2014 03:05 GMT
#286
On May 12 2014 11:31 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
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On May 12 2014 11:28 Zozo wrote:
The community, other games and blog sections should be visible in any website. Quite a few of us came here for a game and stuck around for the community.

If you think making liquidhearth, liquiddota, liquidsmash, liquid.net, liquidlol and liquidwhatever else is the right choice, then go ahead, but there is no reason the split the community that goes beyond the games at this point.

On May 12 2014 11:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@DwD: 100-150 users suddenly became a majoirty at TL?

If Community / Blogs / VideoStreams problems would get partly solved, you won't see anyone objecting at all, I bet.


It's been 3 hours, chill, most people don't even know about the change.

We have been looking into this and so far there have been technical difficulties to doing it. However in the end nothing can stop R1CH so I'm confident we can pull it off.

Ya, this feels to me like the most important missing step. I imagine that people won't want to leave the TL community to go to the other site, and that a huge draw for many are the extra-gaming aspects of TL. Not being able to access all that other stuff would be the #1 reason I wouldn't want to go to LiquidDota.

Actually makes me wonder- how long has LiquidPoker been around, and has it been successful in establishing a its own niche community apart from the traditional TL?
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
May 12 2014 03:06 GMT
#287
Somehow I actually felt like posting for the first time here, pretty much just been lurking around since Brood War and made an account at one point but never really did anything with it still. But basically I really really like how the new site looks, and the new features look awesome, can't wait to see some of them start to get implemented over here.

As for the splitting of the sites, it seems like the main thing really is just the community forums that need to be worked out between all three sites and it wont be such a big split anymore. As for everything else, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 03:08:59
May 12 2014 03:06 GMT
#288
Really like the modern look of the thread posts at LiquidDota.

Simple changes to usernames (now in bold) and headers (now darker with lighter lines) are great. We could use that kind of update for the main site too.
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 12 2014 03:13 GMT
#289
The new live events and upcoming events thing looks great, can't wait to see that in the SC2 section.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
May 12 2014 03:16 GMT
#290
On May 12 2014 11:57 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 11:30 sumsaR wrote:
On May 12 2014 11:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@DwD: 100-150 users suddenly became a majoirty at TL?

If Community / Blogs / VideoStreams problems would get partly solved, you won't see anyone objecting at all, I bet.

Only those who prefers to visit just one site for all their TL needs. Now the dota fans need to go to one for the dota 2 content and the main one for the non-gaming content (or sc2/lol), as the community forum section isn't shared across sites (because it's that section which keeps most people active on the forums, right?).

I don't get it honestly.

Everybody loves and respect TL stuff and TL community. But when admins openly explain to people: "Guys, we want to achieve even more results with our constant efforts, we want to bring more people into the TL awesomeness, we want to make a site more useful for a Dota and SC2 ACTIVE followers, wouldn't be it nice? All you need to do is just open one more window in your browser and you won't miss anything, believe us" and getting "How you dare to make my life even more uncomfortable and complicated than it's already. You will break the most mature esports community apart, plz stop" in response.


Because, frankly, their reasoning sucks.

Everyone who wanted a dedicated DotA site already had it. As the admins even admitted, everyone else provided sites that were solely DotA. The people that used TL for DotA were the ones that transitioned from SC, or the ones that cared about both.

In other words, they had a dedicated user-base that already had options, but stayed here because of things only TL was providing.

Or, more generally, TeamLiquid was the only website that provided aggregate Event listings and Stream links for multiple major eSports. But instead of cornering a market that they had a complete monopoly on, and improving the service, they instead decided to create one more DotA website in a sea of already established communities.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
May 12 2014 03:25 GMT
#291
I watch both SC and Dota, but right now it doesn't seem too big of a deal to just open 2 tabs, tbh. In fact, I was using gosu/jd to check for Dota tournament times before this anyway.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
May 12 2014 03:27 GMT
#292
The new dota site is actually really cool. At first I was like, ugh, not another LiquidHearth (I personally loved LiquidHearth). I just didnt like the idea that I had to frequent 3 different sites now. But I gotta admit, the new site is really awesome and super spiffy. Definitely worth it imo.
Skol
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 03:30:48
May 12 2014 03:29 GMT
#293
Nooo! I liked TL for having it all at one place for the purpose of eSports and not being closed into one game.
HS I couldn't care for so I was happy when it got its own site but I'm gonna miss lurking the Dota threads when I'm bored ;;

I'm no developer or designer but wouldn't a complete face lift been sufficient enough not to split the sites up?
Opening the front page up so it doesn't get so easily crowded.

Edit: Time to grab up that LiquidGeneral.net url?
The curse is real
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
May 12 2014 03:29 GMT
#294
what a shiny site
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
May 12 2014 03:30 GMT
#295
Get hype, this is awesome. Signing out.... and into http://www.liquiddota.com/

Peace
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 03:43:32
May 12 2014 03:41 GMT
#296
Congrats TL

edit: oh it works the same way as Liquid Poker, so we have a separate post count
ॐ
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
May 12 2014 03:44 GMT
#297
@WolfintheSheep
>Everyone who wanted a dedicated DotA site already had it
Please, you can't compare gg/jd/nadota/playdota to TL Dota 2 section.

>The people that used TL for DotA were the ones that transitioned from SC, or the ones that cared about both.
I don't believe in people who care and can't open an extra window in their browser tab at the same time.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 12 2014 03:55 GMT
#298
On May 12 2014 12:44 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@WolfintheSheep
>Everyone who wanted a dedicated DotA site already had it
Please, you can't compare gg/jd/nadota/playdota to TL Dota 2 section.

>The people that used TL for DotA were the ones that transitioned from SC, or the ones that cared about both.
I don't believe in people who care and can't open an extra window in their browser tab at the same time.

I believe his main point was the convenience of it which I can see.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
May 12 2014 04:01 GMT
#299
Hype hype hype!
Awesome move!
EZ4ENCE
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 04:02:32
May 12 2014 04:02 GMT
#300
On May 12 2014 12:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 11:57 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On May 12 2014 11:30 sumsaR wrote:
On May 12 2014 11:23 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
@DwD: 100-150 users suddenly became a majoirty at TL?

If Community / Blogs / VideoStreams problems would get partly solved, you won't see anyone objecting at all, I bet.

Only those who prefers to visit just one site for all their TL needs. Now the dota fans need to go to one for the dota 2 content and the main one for the non-gaming content (or sc2/lol), as the community forum section isn't shared across sites (because it's that section which keeps most people active on the forums, right?).

I don't get it honestly.

Everybody loves and respect TL stuff and TL community. But when admins openly explain to people: "Guys, we want to achieve even more results with our constant efforts, we want to bring more people into the TL awesomeness, we want to make a site more useful for a Dota and SC2 ACTIVE followers, wouldn't be it nice? All you need to do is just open one more window in your browser and you won't miss anything, believe us" and getting "How you dare to make my life even more uncomfortable and complicated than it's already. You will break the most mature esports community apart, plz stop" in response.


Or, more generally, TeamLiquid was the only website that provided aggregate Event listings and Stream links for multiple major eSports. But instead of cornering a market that they had a complete monopoly on, and improving the service, they instead decided to create one more DotA website in a sea of already established communities.


This was the best part of TL by far, i could hit the main page and instantly know everything in esports, now i have to go through multiple websites just like before.
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