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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 12 2014 10:08 GMT
#401
FU TL, NOW I HAVE TO HAVE OPENED 2 SEPARATE TABS
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 10:18:23
May 12 2014 10:17 GMT
#402
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

This is why you use a Frontend framework like Boostrap with RESS and LESS for the graphics along with JangularJS for the code, It takes wayy less time to develop and deploy if you use existing frameworks instead of re-inventing the wheel
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 10:17:43
May 12 2014 10:17 GMT
#403
On May 12 2014 18:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:52 Fildun wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.

This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.

In case you haven't noticed, the sidebars are simply hidden and open up fully when you click on them:

[image loading]

And that is problem. Its like airplane cockpit turned into car "cockpit". I want everything to be open right away and not to press to get there

In that mobile version I have to press press and press to get to one place. In normal version one press is enough.
Also you get nice overview.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
May 12 2014 10:18 GMT
#404
I liked having everything on one site more.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
May 12 2014 10:19 GMT
#405
On May 12 2014 19:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:52 Fildun wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.

This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.

In case you haven't noticed, the sidebars are simply hidden and open up fully when you click on them:

[image loading]

And that is problem. Its like airplane cockpit turned into car "cockpit". I want everything to be open right away and not to press to get there

In that mobile version I have to press press and press to get to one place. In normal version one press is enough.
Also you get nice overview.

I'd argue that in the normal version on a phone you'd have to zoom in first and press to get to one place.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
May 12 2014 10:20 GMT
#406
On May 12 2014 19:17 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

This is why you use a Frontend framework like Boostrap with RESS and LESS for the graphics along with JangularJS for the code, It takes wayy less time to develop and deploy if you use existing frameworks instead of re-inventing the wheel

While I'm not a programmer and R1CH will probably know a lot more about this or tell me I'm completely wrong, TL is a very very old site that has been upgraded over the years.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 10:25:59
May 12 2014 10:23 GMT
#407
On May 12 2014 19:18 Paperplane wrote:
I liked having everything on one site more.

On TL lots of ppl agree, see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/450263-introducing-liquiddota?page=3#44. Not sure if that's a good representation but that poll shows not everyone is happy, although that's quite normal. People usually don't like changes, but in this case I support them. I agree with your point of view, as I'm playing / have played all of those games.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-12 10:33:38
May 12 2014 10:30 GMT
#408
On May 12 2014 18:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 18:52 Fildun wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.

This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.

In case you haven't noticed, the sidebars are simply hidden and open up fully when you click on them:

[image loading]

Yes, but I can't have both while I do want both.
Edit: I want to see both a topic with replies and then the sidebar on the side. I don't think that is possible right now on LiquidDota. However it is possible on TL.

And now that I have your attention is something like this possible:
On May 12 2014 17:26 Fildun wrote:
Ok, I have a brilliant idea.
What if you guys would add something in the filter called "Dota 2 News". This is turned off by default, in order to not scare people, but if you turn it on it would put links to LiquidDota news articles in your Featured News and Community News tabs.
Basically like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
SNA.ixmike88 on NA Dota

But then in the sidebar.

TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 12 2014 10:30 GMT
#409
On May 12 2014 19:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 19:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:57 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:52 Fildun wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.

This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.

In case you haven't noticed, the sidebars are simply hidden and open up fully when you click on them:

[image loading]

And that is problem. Its like airplane cockpit turned into car "cockpit". I want everything to be open right away and not to press to get there

In that mobile version I have to press press and press to get to one place. In normal version one press is enough.
Also you get nice overview.

I'd argue that in the normal version on a phone you'd have to zoom in first and press to get to one place.

But like I said, if site have this mobile version, you have to be adle to disable it!. That's not case in LiquidDota.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
May 12 2014 10:30 GMT
#410
On May 12 2014 19:20 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 19:17 Integra wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?

The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.

This is why you use a Frontend framework like Boostrap with RESS and LESS for the graphics along with JangularJS for the code, It takes wayy less time to develop and deploy if you use existing frameworks instead of re-inventing the wheel

While I'm not a programmer and R1CH will probably know a lot more about this or tell me I'm completely wrong, TL is a very very old site that has been upgraded over the years.

He would prolly have said that you are very much correct on this one.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 12 2014 10:31 GMT
#411
On May 12 2014 19:23 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 19:18 Paperplane wrote:
I liked having everything on one site more.

On TL lots of ppl agree, see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/tl-community/450263-introducing-liquiddota?page=3#44. Not sure if that's a good representation but that poll shows not everyone is happy, although that's quite normal. People usually don't like changes, but in this case I support them. I agree with your point of view, as I'm playing / have played all of those games.

Yeah, LiquidHeart was quite fail but I dont think LiquidDota will be such a fail. But again for me it doesnt matter coz I only follow sc2 and community.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
May 12 2014 10:41 GMT
#412
Is it naive to think that maybe liquid dota could have the live streams for wcs, pro league, and gsl in the sidebar under the live streams tab?
Every night I pray for TL to give me my SAD Boys flair, and every morning I wake up disappointed.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
May 12 2014 10:49 GMT
#413
How I can sort "upcoming events" or/and "live event" by name/game?
If I see: 6h 17m Go4SC2 Mon €75 then I never know if this is for sc2 or dota or whatever game. Livestream offers this option.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
May 12 2014 10:50 GMT
#414
On May 12 2014 19:49 Dingodile wrote:
How I can sort "upcoming events" or/and "live event" by name/game?
If I see: 6h 17m Go4SC2 Mon €75 then I never know if this is for sc2 or dota or whatever game. Livestream offers this option.

There shouldn't be any more Dota events listed.
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nevermore86
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom108 Posts
May 12 2014 10:55 GMT
#415
Great decision.
Let's face it, Dota is the future and it needed exactly this: an independent, high quality coverage site.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
May 12 2014 10:58 GMT
#416
On May 12 2014 15:37 boesthius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 15:28 iNteLStyLe wrote:
On May 12 2014 15:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
On May 12 2014 15:04 iNteLStyLe wrote:
On May 12 2014 14:39 boesthius wrote:
On May 12 2014 14:22 iNteLStyLe wrote:
Posted this in the other thread on LiquidDota.com:

So how much did you guys get paid by Riot to leave LoL alongside dying game SC2 by removing Dota/Hearthstone? Lets be honest, when people think of Team Liquid they think of www.teamliquid.net, and whats on the front page? LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament news on the left, and a bunch of news about SC2 players retiring.

Yeah I see where this is going, Well Played! TL

Really really dissapointed

I'm just going to copypaste what Neo said in the reddit post:

I think the Dota2 community should just appreciate what Liquid has done instead of looking for conspiracy theories, haha.
I can say without a doubt that a TL LoL standalone site will not happen.

I play League and am more invested in League when it comes to an esport than anything else now, and this kind of posting is just really silly to me. You're reaching - I mean how does TL have anything to do with sc2 players retiring? I'm going to go look at the front page right now; and this is what I see:
  • Introducing liquiddota
  • TI4 Compendium Released
  • Proleague Round 3
  • DK Winning Aint Easy
  • Community News - SC2 article, SC2 article, SC2 article, Dota, sc2 article, Dota, Dota, Sc2 x4, Sc:BW, Dota 2
  • Featured Articles: Dota 2 6.81 Patch, 20-20 With Dota 2 Alliance member, Top 10 games of Dota 2, Life winning Dreamhack(sc2)
  • Featured Video - Gomtv game - Starcraft 2
  • Spotlight - Sc2 map submissions, 20-20 with LoL player flame, NSA2 Recap(smash), Heroes of the Storm, Chobra interview

I think what you're trying to refer to is the sidebar, which is, more or less, a bunch of quicklinks into the forum. Even if you use a little common sense - wouldn't you think that TL would have done a LITTLE bit more than a small spotlight of two league threads if they were getting paid by Riot to make LoL an official part of Teamliquid? Come on. You can disagree and not like the change, but at least try to make some reasonable claims to why it's happening.


Just saying the amount of LoL content on a website aimed specifically at BW/SC2 (so much so that they moved Hearthstone/Dota to different, separate sites) is a bit confounding. So the plan is to seperate content that TL covers to provide better content for those original communities, and yet the main site page that everyone knows and goes to when first thinking of TL (teamliquid.net) has featured LoL streamers on the right, LoL tournament discussion, LoL General, LoL Champion Discussion... Really?

If you like LoL thats fine, I won't judge you but honestly why should there be even close to the amount of coverage that there is on a SC:BW/SC2 website?

Also, why are the professional LoL players streams labelled as "featured" streams? This site doesn't cover LoL in any official capacity.

I find myself a little surprised that I'm responding to such a post but I guess it's for clarity's sake so you don't continue to detract from all the hard work the TL Reds have put in.

The reason why you see so much League stuff on TL.net right now is because it's what's left over from the blocked forum layout that was implemented. Tournaments used to have SC2, Dota2, BW, and League, same with General and the other blocks. Now that Dota2 has moved to LP.net, the front page looks like League is taking up more room now (as 1 of 3 games on TL, when it was once 1 of 4 games with Dota2).

But wait, don't worry! In a few days, we will be returning to an older forum layout where League will take its rightful place in a small corner of TL.net under "Other Games". StarCraft2 and BW will return to its former glory on TeamLiquid, yay!

I hope that calms your nerves a little about the impending Riot takeover.
Cheers.


I find myself a little surprised that you had to take such a condescending attitude towards a very valid point: What do you think when I see you guys suddenly moving Hearthstone/Dota to seperate pages, opening www.TeamLiquid.net and seeing this? http://i.imgur.com/ymaOFSP.jpg

Maybe you should try to put things into perspective before you act like a smug asshole to someone else online, Cheers!

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't realize that your filters have taken sc2 and Bw off of the sidebar. However, when the user who opens up teamliquid.net that isn't logged in doesn't see what you posted in your link, they see this:

[image loading]

Using AdBlock. What a dick.
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broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
May 12 2014 11:03 GMT
#417
TL is only useful for providing steam links and a schedule for both dota and Sc2, I can't be the only one annoyed by there being two separate schedules for them now. Furthermore the new schedule on the Dota2 site doesn't provide links to offline steams, something the old does fairly often, I don't want to have to manually find the thread to find the stream link if I want to watch Vods.
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
May 12 2014 11:06 GMT
#418
On May 12 2014 20:03 broodmann wrote:
TL is only useful for providing steam links and a schedule for both dota and Sc2, I can't be the only one annoyed by there being two separate schedules for them now. Furthermore the new schedule on the Dota2 site doesn't provide links to offline steams, something the old does fairly often, I don't want to have to manually find the thread to find the stream link if I want to watch Vods.

What a tough life you have, my friend. Hang in there!
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
May 12 2014 11:09 GMT
#419
On May 12 2014 20:06 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 20:03 broodmann wrote:
TL is only useful for providing steam links and a schedule for both dota and Sc2, I can't be the only one annoyed by there being two separate schedules for them now. Furthermore the new schedule on the Dota2 site doesn't provide links to offline steams, something the old does fairly often, I don't want to have to manually find the thread to find the stream link if I want to watch Vods.

What a tough life you have, my friend. Hang in there!


Nice comment, I guess we should all say we support the change regardless of what we really think. I wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone by writing why I don't like the change in the thread that discusses this very topic......
Trustworthy-Tony
Profile Joined March 2014
Tanzania187 Posts
May 12 2014 11:12 GMT
#420
On May 12 2014 20:09 broodmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 20:06 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
On May 12 2014 20:03 broodmann wrote:
TL is only useful for providing steam links and a schedule for both dota and Sc2, I can't be the only one annoyed by there being two separate schedules for them now. Furthermore the new schedule on the Dota2 site doesn't provide links to offline steams, something the old does fairly often, I don't want to have to manually find the thread to find the stream link if I want to watch Vods.

What a tough life you have, my friend. Hang in there!


Nice comment, I guess we should all say we support the change regardless of what we really think. I wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone by writing why I don't like the change in the thread that discusses this very topic......

How about not being a bitch about it?
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