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Hoping we get the ability to easily access the community sections and blogs or something like it without having to hop back and forth between two sites because i quite liked browsing TL in general outside of dota stuff.
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Denmark14978 Posts
Hoping we get the ability to easily access the community sections and blogs or something like it without having to hop back and forth between two sites because i quite liked browsing TL in general outside of dota stuff. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
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Jamaica921 Posts
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
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YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
But I am sure I haven't factored in all the implications of this and I trust you have (to the largest extent possible). So I hope something good will come out of this. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Why could liquiddota.com not use the same database as teamliquid.net, except that the filters are hard set to hide non-dota content. This alleviates the problem of new people discovering the site and not realising how the filters work. The new thread layouts on liquiddota are surely compatible with the database anyway? I understand that the calendar and UI needed an upgrade to suit Dota more, but isn't that front end stuff? At the end of the day, all the posts are stored on a database as text. You can upgrade the UI or layout to display the text in different ways, but it's still raw text in the database. Unless I'm incredibly wrong about that, that's the reason why I don't understand the need to split the database. | ||
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blackheartpress
29 Posts
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DocHoliday
Germany25 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:35 blackheartpress wrote: As a casual yet dedicated enough viewer to be on TL almost daily (albeit not posting much) I don't like this change. It was nice to skim the events and then hop into a stream that was interesting and on, be it SC2 or DOTA2. Same goes for news. I liked the Heartstone Tournaments, but haven't visited TLHS once after the first day or so - and probably the same will happen with TLDOTA. I think this is true for many people. People are lazy. | ||
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NewMonolitH
United States22 Posts
One where there are articles or blogs, streams, upcoming/live events for all three covered games on one page. I come here for SC2 and DOTA2. I never have the urge to visit liquidhearth but I do play Hearthstone, very casually, and I wouldn't mind seeing news, and streams about Hearthstone that'll direct me to the liquidhearth forums If I click a link for more information. | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:32 ahswtini wrote: Can one of the programmers explain why the post databases had to be split? In my view as a consumer, not privy to the inner working mechanisms of the site, the filter system was fine. It demonstrated that there was the capability to selectively hide or show content. Why could liquiddota.com not use the same database as teamliquid.net, except that the filters are hard set to hide non-dota content. This alleviates the problem of new people discovering the site and not realising how the filters work. The new thread layouts on liquiddota are surely compatible with the database anyway? I understand that the calendar and UI needed an upgrade to suit Dota more, but isn't that front end stuff? At the end of the day, all the posts are stored on a database as text. You can upgrade the UI or layout to display the text in different ways, but it's still raw text in the database. Unless I'm incredibly wrong about that, that's the reason why I don't understand the need to split the database. The DB probably aren't split given that new topics in LiquidDotA have high primary keys. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 12 2014 20:26 tauon wrote: The right side bar is quite nice but I can't help but feel that joindota still does it a bit better. One other small thing, it would be nice if you kept the SC themed profile pictures from TL instead of the heroes. It's a nice little reminder. what the hell how is joindota's calendar better than liquiddota's lol | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
However, I can't say I'm fond of the forums being split. I guess that just feels really weird. | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:51 Otolia wrote: The DB probably aren't split given that new topics in LiquidDotA have high primary keys. Once again I could be wrong but I believe the databases are indeed separate. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:53 Milkis wrote: I like the liquiddota frontend a lot. However, I can't say I'm fond of the forums being split. I guess that just feels really weird. Exactly, and I don't understand why the new frontend couldn't pull post data from the existing database. Is it not possible to use the same database across several domains? | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
On May 12 2014 06:43 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: It's something we are considering but there's actually a lot of technical limitations What are the technical limitations that you speak of? I'm assuming it is because you have a separate database for the new forum? Not sure if this was mentioned, but here is a simple solution: Dump all the general community tables from the old TL forum database into a new database called "Community Forums". Write a simple REST API for that new database that can be accessed by both sites. It doesn't matter on which server you put that obviously. Voila! Edit: the database dump is optional of course, the tables can also stay on the TL database | ||
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Oakstream
Sweden240 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On May 12 2014 21:59 ahswtini wrote: Exactly, and I don't understand why the new frontend couldn't pull post data from the existing database. Is it not possible to use the same database across several domains? Course it is. But if the databases are indeed physically split, then its a lot of work to combine them without bottlenecking it. Should be possible to set up a twophase system that lets you combine parts of each page though. On May 12 2014 22:00 urboss wrote: Not sure if this was mentioned, but here is a simple solution: Dump all the general community tables from the old TL forum database into a new database called "Community Forums". Write a simple REST API for that new database that can be accessed by both sites. It doesn't matter on which server you put that obviously. Voila! Edit: the database dump is optional of course, the tables can also stay on the TL database Or that, which should be 10 times easier depending on how exactly they've set up their servers. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On May 12 2014 22:00 urboss wrote: What are the technical limitations that you speak of? I'm assuming it is because you have a separate database for the new forum? Not sure if this was mentioned, but here is a simple solution: Dump all the general community tables from the old TL forum database into a new database called "Community Forums". Write a simple REST API for that new database that can be accessed by both sites. It doesn't matter on which server you put that obviously. Voila! This is one of two solutions that I was thinking of, obviously put better than me because it has geekspeak :D | ||
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Latham
9592 Posts
Now I'm being FORCED to juggle 3 sites just to CHECK if I'm interested in any of the streams going on, tournaments being played, participate in discussions and overall news. It's real fucking shitty. I didn't mind separating Hearthstone because it will always be a niche game without any e-sports value the way it was designed to be just a fun pastime, but now moving Dota 2? Really? You which provided me with everything-in-1-site, Teamliquid.net are going to forcefully inconvenience me to navigate to some wierd and certainly not iconic sister-offshoot just to get news on another game, you have previously made excellent articles written upon, and even have your own e-sports team? Thanks a bunch, really. I think I'm more likely to go back to joindota for news rather than visit that site for any sort of news and discussion. On a sidenote, why not make a LiquidGeneral.net, LiquidMedia&Entertainement.net and LiquidBlogs.net? | ||
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