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Lalalaland34504 Posts
On May 12 2014 18:05 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Random idea. Would it be possible through some sort of wizardry to allow general forums (and other TL sections) to be crossed over to liquiddota but only as a filter setting? Like we can all change around what forums are shown and in what order on TL if you know how to (which apparently like 8 people do). What about allowing filtering on liquiddota where you could opt to pull in some of the TL forum sections? By default they wouldn't be there, but if you were logged into your account and knew how to filter you could have the option of having the TL general forum/blogs/sc2 tournament/etc sections show up on liquiddota so those of us that did use them could still participate while staying on our side of the proverbial fence thats been put up?
This is probably one of the bigger things we have debated over and over again in the staff forums. The benefits are obvious, but there are a couple complications/cons.
1) The technical side of it all is quite difficult. R1CH is a wizard but it doesn't make it a simple thing to do.
2) By starting from scratch, we allow a new community to build itself up. You could say it's easier to just let the old community carry over, but then you have a bunch of threads with thousands of posts that look daunting to new visitors.
This debate is still continuing even now. I can't tell you which side we're leaning more towards after all the feedback we've received in the last 12 hours, but there is definitely a possibility we may decide to implement shared forums at some point. No promises though.
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also if you want me to turn off addblock dont make me laugh with the "dont be like terrroblade" LOL
I tihnk I'm gonna keep addblock untill it stops being funny haha
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On May 12 2014 18:06 Daozzt wrote:
No offense, but the other site feels like a ghost town. It was great when it was a sub forum and I could check out or post in dota/other games/blogs etc. and it was all on the same page.
Well, it is the first day. Hell I didn't even see the other site was up for a long time. I came here today like I always do and tried to click on an article but the link didn't work, scrolled down to the dota 2 section and was like wtf, where did it go? Did I get somehow banned from the dota 2 section or some shit? lol. Eventually I found out the site had been sectioned off. As more people find it it'll get used more, but it's going to take a while I think before it takes off and feels super vibrant, and it's entirely possible people just don't go for the change at all.
I think my suggestion above would go a long way to making the site feel more alive, even if only for those of us that know how to use filtering.
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Great ! Never really understood why dota2 was merged with the sc site  didn't make a lot of sense.
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Threads with lots of posts really are daunting to new users, and you don't want that? That would mean the longer a site exists, the less attractive it becomes to new users. So the best thing TL could do to attract new SC2 user would be to wipe the entire forum xD
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On May 12 2014 18:10 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:05 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Random idea. Would it be possible through some sort of wizardry to allow general forums (and other TL sections) to be crossed over to liquiddota but only as a filter setting? Like we can all change around what forums are shown and in what order on TL if you know how to (which apparently like 8 people do). What about allowing filtering on liquiddota where you could opt to pull in some of the TL forum sections? By default they wouldn't be there, but if you were logged into your account and knew how to filter you could have the option of having the TL general forum/blogs/sc2 tournament/etc sections show up on liquiddota so those of us that did use them could still participate while staying on our side of the proverbial fence thats been put up? This is probably one of the bigger things we have debated over and over again in the staff forums. The benefits are obvious, but there are a couple complications/cons. 1) The technical side of it all is quite difficult. R1CH is a wizard but it doesn't make it a simple thing to do. 2) By starting from scratch, we allow a new community to build itself up. You could say it's easier to just let the old community carry over, but then you have a bunch of threads with thousands of posts that look daunting to new visitors. This debate is still continuing even now. I can't tell you which side we're leaning more towards after all the feedback we've received in the last 12 hours, but there is definitely a possibility we may decide to implement shared forums at some point. No promises though.
1) I'm not saying it would be easy, I have no idea if it's even possible! It's just a random brainfart I had. From a technical standpoint maybe its simple as can be, maybe its like trying to figure out magnets. Though I'm sure R1CH can do about anything.
2) But if new visitors never see those threads what difference does it make? I'm proposing it only show up to people that specifically set it up to show up. People like me who check out the US Politics Megathread, Tech support stuff, the funny pictures thread, a picture says 1,000 words, etc. By default I agree, they shouldn't show up if they're actually that daunting to people. But having the option of sticking to one site (liquiddota if thats kind of being forced on us) while still participating in ongoing discussions here. Make me be logged in and setup the filter on liquiddota to incorporate the "Community" forum section here at the very least over there. Maybe I'm not explaining it great, I am tired lol.
Like, I agree it seems pretty retarded to rebrand if you're just going to have all the same stuff on both sites. At that point you're needlessly fracturing a community. I'd just like to be able to see the "General", "Media & Entertainment", "Sports", "Tech Support", and "TL Community" sections while on liquiddota, only when set up through completely optional filtering while logged in. That way I can see if there's movement on one of the threads I frequent or something interesting sounding in General pops up I want to check out without having to go between two sites.
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Honestly i don't like this change this must be the only change that i hate about TL. One of the reasons why TL I visit TL alot is due to it being very convenient since the entire site has all the game discussion forum. Separating it will lose it's convenience.
And it will be the same as the liquidhearth site. The regulars will unlikely post anymore.
Maybe the trouble of inconvenience may be fixed if the UI is also changed that the users don't feel that liquid dota is separated.
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Personally, I really don't like this - I loved having everything in one place, being able to check SC2, HS and Dota2 on the same site. That was just so damn convenient. I suppose this will go the same as HS for me - I visited once to check it out, then didn't bother to go there again.
But I guess it's a great and welcome improvement for all the hardcore Dota guys here. So, good for you guys, go and make your new home epic and comfy ^^
But since I'm just a lazy casual I probably won't stray much from TL.
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On May 12 2014 17:35 zul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 17:29 Firkraag8 wrote:
I only really care about StarCraft so for me it's a nice change that DotA is removed from the TL.net what changes for you? Since you only care about starcraft, I assume you had the filters set this way, that you only see SC-content. so whats your point?
I have used all the filters and such since their inception, you're right that there's not a huge difference. If this lets TL specialize the websites more toward their respective games that's a good thing.
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Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?
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because liquiddota has responsive design. rich probably didnt bother to impelement it here because it'd be very tedious
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Lalalaland34504 Posts
On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does?
The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.
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Well, i for one am a little bummed out. I liked having starcraft and dota in one convenient site. I know its not really a big deal to go to two sites. But I'm pretty sure my days of watching and keeping up with professional starcraft are going to take a big maybe even total decline because of this.
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Im happy the dota 2 streams are still listed on TeamLiquid.net <3 Thank you very much
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On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does? The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time.
Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.
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On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does? The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time. Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions.
This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.
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On May 12 2014 18:10 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:05 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Random idea. Would it be possible through some sort of wizardry to allow general forums (and other TL sections) to be crossed over to liquiddota but only as a filter setting? Like we can all change around what forums are shown and in what order on TL if you know how to (which apparently like 8 people do). What about allowing filtering on liquiddota where you could opt to pull in some of the TL forum sections? By default they wouldn't be there, but if you were logged into your account and knew how to filter you could have the option of having the TL general forum/blogs/sc2 tournament/etc sections show up on liquiddota so those of us that did use them could still participate while staying on our side of the proverbial fence thats been put up? This is probably one of the bigger things we have debated over and over again in the staff forums. The benefits are obvious, but there are a couple complications/cons. 1) The technical side of it all is quite difficult. R1CH is a wizard but it doesn't make it a simple thing to do. 2) By starting from scratch, we allow a new community to build itself up. You could say it's easier to just let the old community carry over, but then you have a bunch of threads with thousands of posts that look daunting to new visitors. This debate is still continuing even now. I can't tell you which side we're leaning more towards after all the feedback we've received in the last 12 hours, but there is definitely a possibility we may decide to implement shared forums at some point. No promises though.
The technical side is somewhat of an excuse. There are numerous solutions to the problem at hand including : changing the software or going open source. There are many devs on TL including yourself and we all know that it's not actually hard if you have the infrastructure in place ... which TL doesn't for some reason.
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Lalalaland34504 Posts
On May 12 2014 18:52 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 12 2014 18:49 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On May 12 2014 18:45 Firebolt145 wrote:On May 12 2014 18:42 haduken wrote:
Nice change, how ever why is it that TL.net don't display properly in mobile while the new site does? The new site had a lot of extra work put into it by Wolfwood and R1CH into making it responsive, meaning that it resizes itself based on the resolution of your browser. I would expect it to eventually be ported over back to TL, but it might take some time. Never never if you can't disable it. In LiquidDota is missing button where you can disable it...and it looks horrible. I always use normal versions and not mobile versions. This, so much. I really like the sidebars and they just disappear when you go on the mobile version.
In case you haven't noticed, the sidebars are simply hidden and open up fully when you click on them:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ne4t0YY.png)
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I'd rather this change hadn't happened as I really enjoyed being able to see the news/streams/forums for BW/SC2/DOTA2 all while looking at one part of a website, but meh, the change has happened lets see where it goes
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