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On May 16 2013 15:26 Blazinghand wrote:
martyring is null what planet are you from
and i'm like the #1 guy getting OO lynched, it's people like all people who didn't vote OO due to like badness and stuff that are the reason he didn't getl ynched
lol see, when you flat-out lie, your ego play comes off as really shitty. Plenty of people pushed OO long before you and continue to do so.
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OH YEAH I HAVE MY VOTE!!.
##Vote: WoS
Again with the promises WoS. And you didnt fufill the earlier ones. Tsk. Lying is bad.
BH, WoS martyrs in like almost every game except this one, and so far he has always been town. I am of the opinion that its the same as selfvotes. Selfvotes are null.
Vivax gets town thinking and has a strong in-thread presence, and overall tends to use his blue roles well. I've never played mafia so to be honest I'm unsure as to how the process of blue-sniping goes but Vivax seems as good a shot as any here.
Are you serious? You think that Vivax got killed cause of the fact the he uses blue roles well, Y/N?
As far as which I find is more likely scum, I don't know, I have a lot of reading to do. First thoughts obviously because BH is always tunneling me would be that BH is scum and since Prom was actually using his brain that he's town but those wouldn't be very thoughtful or useful reads, would they? Hence me getting my thoughts across to the thread regarding where my mind is at and what I will be trying to do during the day.
Shut up and come back when you have determined which dude is scum. After answering my very important questions.
What is great about this WoS, is that you didnt bring this up earlier, oh no you only figured this out now. Wow... Wow.
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On May 16 2013 15:31 Oatsmaster wrote:OH YEAH I HAVE MY VOTE!!. ##Vote: WoSAgain with the promises WoS. And you didnt fufill the earlier ones. Tsk. Lying is bad. BH, WoS martyrs in like almost every game except this one, and so far he has always been town. I am of the opinion that its the same as selfvotes. Selfvotes are null. Show nested quote +Vivax gets town thinking and has a strong in-thread presence, and overall tends to use his blue roles well. I've never played mafia so to be honest I'm unsure as to how the process of blue-sniping goes but Vivax seems as good a shot as any here. Are you serious? You think that Vivax got killed cause of the fact the he uses blue roles well, Y/N? Show nested quote +As far as which I find is more likely scum, I don't know, I have a lot of reading to do. First thoughts obviously because BH is always tunneling me would be that BH is scum and since Prom was actually using his brain that he's town but those wouldn't be very thoughtful or useful reads, would they? Hence me getting my thoughts across to the thread regarding where my mind is at and what I will be trying to do during the day. Shut up and come back when you have determined which dude is scum. After answering my very important questions. What is great about this WoS, is that you didnt bring this up earlier, oh no you only figured this out now. Wow... Wow.
Yeah, I'm not worried about you two. Continue your campaign of idiocy and I'll do my own thing. Though I am taken aback by the fact that you think that I've lied. Show me where.
And yes Oats, I do think that is why Vivax was killed. I don't think his shot this game was very good if killing Vayne was what he did with it, but the point remains.
On March 22 2013 15:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Day 3 On this day, many of my peers did not return to the circle. The title cards were collected from their seats and read aloud, as was custom. Vivax the SwordShow nested quote +You are the Sword. Once in the game, after night one, you may choose to kill a player at night. If your kill fails for any reason, you will get another chance to use it the next night. Vote wisely. GoodKarma the PriestShow nested quote +You are the Priest. Each night you may PM the mod the name of a player to place in your locket. That player can not be killed by the first kill attempt that night. Sciberbia the FoolWade Fell the MessengerShow nested quote +You are The Messenger. The loyal messenger of this family, you have installed mail chutes in peoples rooms allowing for instant written communication. All the better to confuse and deceive the cursed. You can mason with one player each cycle. You can not mason with the same player twice. In the discordant and endless song of my allies being read off the daily obituary, one note rang out at the end triumphantly, reminding me that indeed victory was within reach. Renewed, I sat at the end of the chair with my confidence intact.
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On May 16 2013 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm too tired to write anything big now. I just got "home" and need to sleep. Protect Prome/Sloosh. I don't care if VE/chaoser/BH die, even if they are town, as VE is probably scum, chaoser has disappeared since his questions for me, and BH is being useless besides his push on WoS.
Lynch Oats/VE/Kush tomorrow if nothing changes. For Oats, read my and his filter, you should see why. For VE, his vote was bullshit on a person that would never get lynched and the push was really weak. He also calls Oats' list "interesting" but does not contribute to it after, even when asked. Kush is really really bad, but not in a normal townie kush way. Anyone who has played a game with him should noticve this.
shiro/Vivax are odd, keep an eye on them. I don't like Vivax sheeping BH and then saying "I pushed WoS lynch". Vivax also can't possibly have a town read on shiro based on his contributions because that dude is a sneaky bitch sometimes. I am the only one who can really read shiro based on his contributions so far, and i am starting to doubt my read on him. He would never try to lynch me if he was scum (as i would get him lynched before), and it seems like he is trying to cast suspicion on me as some strong players are suspicious of me without doing shit about it. When i ask for reasons he is just joking about it. Other than that shiro just plain out sheeps BH. There is no way he can have a town read on BH, or if he does, he needs to explain it. Also if in any case shiro flips mafia, look at his D1 contributions. He is hesitant to buss or even talk about his teammates unless asked, that would mean all his suspects from D1 are 100% town.
That's all i got for you guys now. I'm really just too tired to make big posts now..
Rayn's last post is mega interesting.
Oats and VE as targets? (I can't read kush worth a shit and he promised some scumhunting so I'm waiting on that).
Oats what do you make of Rayn's pressure on you before he died since your response was....mediocre at best.
On May 15 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, somebody asked me if i thought if DP faked his role-name, i specifically asked "why are you so sure wall street investor is a town role?". I don't understand how you can, from that, form a conclusion that i was saying DP is a mafia self-aware miller.
rofl.. huh. INTERESTING. Did you defend yourself from sloosh's case?
Then there's this:
On May 16 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That rayn shot was also kinda weird.
huh.
why not prome/bh/VE???
I think it was also established that the Rayn shot was not weird at all.
These things together plus your play D1....I dunno babes, you lookin' right scummy. Think I'll stick with as my main target from D1 for now. You can be the appetizer before I move on to the main course of attempting to figure out if I'm just being a dumbass about the Prom/BH thing.
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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##vote WoS
Mostly this is because of his recent dubious push on oatsm4sta
On May 16 2013 15:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah, I'm not worried about you two. Continue your campaign of idiocy and I'll do my own thing. Though I am taken aback by the fact that you think that I've lied. Show me where.
So first he makes this post. He talks about Oats like he is town.
* Townies make "campaigns of idiocy," not scum. Scum campaigns are malicious not idiotic.
* If WoS really believed Oats was scum, why would he be "taken aback" by an accusation of lying?
WoS's next post explains why he is voting for Oats now:
On May 16 2013 15:50 WaveofShadow wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2013 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm too tired to write anything big now. I just got "home" and need to sleep. Protect Prome/Sloosh. I don't care if VE/chaoser/BH die, even if they are town, as VE is probably scum, chaoser has disappeared since his questions for me, and BH is being useless besides his push on WoS.
Lynch Oats/VE/Kush tomorrow if nothing changes. For Oats, read my and his filter, you should see why. For VE, his vote was bullshit on a person that would never get lynched and the push was really weak. He also calls Oats' list "interesting" but does not contribute to it after, even when asked. Kush is really really bad, but not in a normal townie kush way. Anyone who has played a game with him should noticve this.
shiro/Vivax are odd, keep an eye on them. I don't like Vivax sheeping BH and then saying "I pushed WoS lynch". Vivax also can't possibly have a town read on shiro based on his contributions because that dude is a sneaky bitch sometimes. I am the only one who can really read shiro based on his contributions so far, and i am starting to doubt my read on him. He would never try to lynch me if he was scum (as i would get him lynched before), and it seems like he is trying to cast suspicion on me as some strong players are suspicious of me without doing shit about it. When i ask for reasons he is just joking about it. Other than that shiro just plain out sheeps BH. There is no way he can have a town read on BH, or if he does, he needs to explain it. Also if in any case shiro flips mafia, look at his D1 contributions. He is hesitant to buss or even talk about his teammates unless asked, that would mean all his suspects from D1 are 100% town.
That's all i got for you guys now. I'm really just too tired to make big posts now.. Rayn's last post is mega interesting. Oats and VE as targets? (I can't read kush worth a shit and he promised some scumhunting so I'm waiting on that). Oats what do you make of Rayn's pressure on you before he died since your response was....mediocre at best. On May 15 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, somebody asked me if i thought if DP faked his role-name, i specifically asked "why are you so sure wall street investor is a town role?". I don't understand how you can, from that, form a conclusion that i was saying DP is a mafia self-aware miller.
rofl.. huh. INTERESTING. Did you defend yourself from sloosh's case? Then there's this: On May 16 2013 14:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
That rayn shot was also kinda weird.
huh.
why not prome/bh/VE???
I think it was also established that the Rayn shot was not weird at all. These things together plus your play D1....I dunno babes, you lookin' right scummy. Think I'll stick with as my main target from D1 for now. You can be the appetizer before I move on to the main course of attempting to figure out if I'm just being a dumbass about the Prom/BH thing. ##Vote: Oatsmaster
Ill summarize the reasons for you.
WoS is voting Oats because...
1 he didn't a quote from rayne basically questioning his logic and making fun of him, but not calling him scum
2 he wondered about the NKs
3 "i dunno babes"
##vote WoS
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k cool 
WoS claiming scum.
BH please sheep me
What pressure WoS? quote posts that I havent responded too?
Also everyone.
WoS said that Vivax got killed cause
1. He is good at blue roles
2. He has a propensity to roll them.
Does this sound really ridiculous to anyone else?
I think it was also established that the Rayn shot was not weird at all.
Timecodes my dear boy. If you look at the context, that was right after the day post and before discussion. Why are you intentionally doing this I wonder. OH RIGHT ITS CAUSE YOU ARE SCUM.
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A big, resounding, MEH.
Kush you're so sure you have to vote twice, huh? I'm taken aback because I don't like being accused of lying. I don't lie. As for Oats not responding to Rayn's post, if you read through the thread at all, (which we both know you never fucking do) Rayn called Oats scum multiple times before and after that point.
"I dunno babes" as a reason to vote me. lol.
I can't wait until the people with brains in their heads actually return to the thread.
Oats, you quoted Rayn's post you didn't respond to yourself.
On May 15 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, somebody asked me if i thought if DP faked his role-name, i specifically asked "why are you so sure wall street investor is a town role?". I don't understand how you can, from that, form a conclusion that i was saying DP is a mafia self-aware miller.
rofl.. huh. INTERESTING. Did you defend yourself from sloosh's case?
I'm also still waiting for you to point out how I lied.
Hey let's add to that, how did I claim scum? Need I remind you, like I had to tell BH, just because you say things doesn't make them true.
Off to bed ladies and gents, more scumhunting tomorrow.
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On May 16 2013 17:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
A big, resounding, MEH.
Kush you're so sure you have to vote twice, huh? I'm taken aback because I don't like being accused of lying. I don't lie. As for Oats not responding to Rayn's post, if you read through the thread at all, (which we both know you never fucking do) Rayn called Oats scum multiple times before and after that point.
There is nothing to respond to 
Oats, you quoted Rayn's post you didn't respond to yourself. Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On May 15 2013 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats, somebody asked me if i thought if DP faked his role-name, i specifically asked "why are you so sure wall street investor is a town role?". I don't understand how you can, from that, form a conclusion that i was saying DP is a mafia self-aware miller.
rofl.. huh. INTERESTING. Did you defend yourself from sloosh's case?
Um misunderstandings/misreading happens? Like I couldnt believe dudes were actually discussing flavor as a part to catching someone as scum, so I assumed that rayn was talking about the role. I was wrong.
I'm also still waiting for you to point out how I lied.
Hey let's add to that, how did I claim scum? Need I remind you, like I had to tell BH, just because you say things doesn't make them true.
You lied cause you are a scummy bastard and scummy bastards lie everywhere.
You claimed scum by making a case on me. I am the 'easiest' target compared to Prome and BH, of course you wouldnt attack them right? yeah. Also the shit about Vivax.
Off to bed ladies and gents, more scumhunting tomorrow. [/QUOTE]
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"i dont know babes" was your reason, not mine.
my reason was because you used that as a reason.
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Day 2 wagons
With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
ObviousOne[L-8]: Blazinghand
WaveofShadow[L-7]: Oatsmaster, kushmasta
Oatsmaster[L-8]: WaveofShadow
Day 2 ends Saturday, May 18 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) if no majority is reached
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Here, catching up. Still a while back so hit me up with anything while I catch up. Going to keep an eye on the thread as I read.
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Up to the bottom of 58, computer dying and switching to tablet. Sorry for wall o text. Please read.
Reevaluating all reads and Catching up:
I really hate how Hiro plays, I'm not sure if
that is alignment indicative though and Hiro
isn't bad when town. A d1 no-lynch punches me
in the soul though.
UPDATE (OO reminded me) vayne's Newbie game
is now over. The reason I feel he is town on
his posting here is that his scum hunting
techniques (bad though they are) remain
consistent from that game to this one. His
thought process here reflects his newbie game
in which he was TOWN since I don't believe he
is a strong enough player to replicate his
town thought process as sccum that means he
is probably TOWN here too. VE, look at this
and provide your thoughts please and thanks.
OO's many posts after my last one look a lot
better than what came before. The effort he
is putting in look like a townie OO and
depending on how he follows them up as I
continue reading I'd say I lean town on him
now. If OO proves town I'm concerned about a
scum VE as Viscera should be way better than
me at reading OO and had him as a town read
but recinded that to follow me and vote him.
I would call these two opposite alignments I
think with a small possibility of both town
but zero possibility OO scum/VE town.
Vivax looks good in these posts (still page
55) don't think he would call a no-lynch a
fail vote as scum. He'd probably fuck off and
laugh. Also his comment about the Katina
picture makes me laugh (dude, can't you tell
that is a girl and not me? I'm way more manly
than that) and making me laugh is a plus one
in my book.
Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to
less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a
really stupid thing to do. Unfortunantly its
a stupid thing I think Oats would do as
either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in
game it is a lie until proven otherwise.
Still think Rayn is town though, he looks
good and what he has done in the time he has
been in the thread has ben good so I don't
really care about how active he is, he is one
of the few new guys I expecct to be active as
both alignments so his lowered activity just
doesn't bother me.
OO points out the VE problem with towrn read
into vote. I like this, he is thinking
critically, I just wish it was about mroe
than people going after him.
Follows it up with suspicion on SnB. Never
mind, OO is probably town. He doesn't have it
in him to do this as scum. SO much reread and
rethink going on here. I don't think I agree
with SnB scum but I'll have to reread after
catching up.
Rayn has good thoughts on SnB, pushes him
(the slot machine) further into town
catagory. He is approaching things the right
way. I have to go reread Oats depending on NK
numbers, not as sure about him=town based
town tell as I was and if NKs don't match up
he is a real possibility for scum.
I'm pretty sure Kush is town. Which is too
bad. Ah well, if he pushes scum lynches for a
while we vig/shoot him since that means he is
scum but for now I'll take him as town based
on his first post on pg 56. Too lazy to go
into it. If you want the meta read ask.
Have no idea what Oats is saying here, still
an idiot (<3) but yeah...reread this
motherfucker. Need to look into this vote
stealer thing, may also be a scum power
where he gives up his vote in return for
something else? No hidden vote appeared on
anyone and so 'stolen' doesn't work. OATS:
what was the prashing of the PM? was your
vote stolen? Or removed or what?
lol Shiro, this kid should still be in
newbies. Mafia is a game of "words againt
words". Rayn, I'd love some insight on this
kid. You've played with him, gimme a rundown
of how he thinks.
Sloosh is a player I haven't even noticed
yet. Not a good sign from a player whom I
respect. Added to reread list. I like his
posts on 56 though so this might be his new
inactive town meta. I'll look again. I do
like his post about Rayn/OO, a lot. Kid can
think. Town side of null on first read.
OO brings up Vayne's play conflicting with
his 'logical townie' playstyle. My impression
is that Vayne thinks of himself as logical
and not emotional not that he is actually
logical instead of emotional. We only get
this 'logical' idea from Vayne himself. And
based on his hissy fit he clearly thinks of
himself as better than he is.
OO again with the good thoughts on SLoosh (pg
57), I don't like to be wrong d1 but I think
I was. Also "farting into the wind" is
hilarious. As he says, Sloosh's play is big
words, which is usually town sloosh, but that
does need to be backed up.
Vayne is so mad. Can someone give him a
handie or something to shut him up and get
him to pay attention. k thx. (still town
though).
I want to see this SnB/OO tiff play out. SnB,
waht do you think about the oats vote steal
and what did occur if he is scum. I doubt a
townie would use votesteal d1 since d1 wagons
are a big part of how one analyses the game
and taking away a vote from scum is awful.
Both OO and SnB want more from Shiro, don't
we all.
SnB bringing up Chaoser is +1 in my book,
where the hell is that guy? VE never followed
up on me asking about him (though neither did
I). VE, BH, prp and SnB (and maaaaybe hiro?)
you guys have been around long enough to know
Chaoser, I'd love some insight.
WTF Vayne with the VE is scum, VE/Prom will
get shot tonight. Sure thing, buddy sure
thing.
bh, why you pop up to talk about how cool you
are and not say anything useful? WoS still
confirmed scum? Y/N.
Vivax picks up on the Vayne idiocy from
above. Good man. I think Vivax is town (and I
hope to hell I'm right since if I am this
will be my first ever right read on Vivax, go
me!).
Pg 58 Oh, so VE is suspicious if he lives
through the night, eh Vayne? What about me?
Why am I not? Or am I misreading your post?
Vivax calls him/bh as nk. Note taken. Viv on
WoS like butter on bread. He thinks WoS is
only scum under pressure though, so OO/Oats
are town? Gotta check if this matches his
earlier reads.
Rayn attacking Vivax while probably wrong is
good sign, if Viv is town he can be quite the
fighter and insighting him as scum = terrible
idea.
VE with the appology post. Gotta relook at
chrono for my meta case on him. Doesn't look
all that similar though night =/= day.
Hiro with the shit talk but no contribution
on BH. That isn't how I think of Hiro's town
game. Didn't he say in ACME obs that I was as
bad as kush since I hadn't cought scum.
Catching scum is everything to him and he
doesn't seem fussed about it. Likely scum.
Needs a reread.
I don't fit into either catagory of WoS
detracotrs or WoS knob gobblers. I am
champion! WoS, you gotta talk to me about why
you have such a you boner and what you
actually think about this shit? Why say bh
will get NK'd? didn't you say scum love to
tunnel/push you? Don't like this from WoS at
all
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oh fuck note pad. Will try to re organize that on tablet.
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote:
Up to the bottom of 58, computer dying and switching to tablet. Sorry for wall o text. Please read.
Reevaluating all reads and Catching up:
I really hate how Hiro plays, I'm not sure if
that is alignment indicative though and Hiro
isn't bad when town. A d1 no-lynch punches me
in the soul though.
UPDATE (OO reminded me) vayne's Newbie game
is now over. The reason I feel he is town on
his posting here is that his scum hunting
techniques (bad though they are) remain
consistent from that game to this one. His
thought process here reflects his newbie game
in which he was TOWN since I don't believe he
is a strong enough player to replicate his
town thought process as sccum that means he
is probably TOWN here too. VE, look at this
and provide your thoughts please and thanks.
OO's many posts after my last one look a lot
better than what came before. The effort he
is putting in look like a townie OO and
depending on how he follows them up as I
continue reading I'd say I lean town on him
now. If OO proves town I'm concerned about a
scum VE as Viscera should be way better than
me at reading OO and had him as a town read
but recinded that to follow me and vote him.
I would call these two opposite alignments I
think with a small possibility of both town
but zero possibility OO scum/VE town.
Vivax looks good in these posts (still page
55) don't think he would call a no-lynch a
fail vote as scum. He'd probably fuck off and
laugh. Also his comment about the Katina
picture makes me laugh (dude, can't you tell
that is a girl and not me? I'm way more manly
than that) and making me laugh is a plus one
in my book.
Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to
less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a
really stupid thing to do. Unfortunantly its
a stupid thing I think Oats would do as
either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in
game it is a lie until proven otherwise.
Still think Rayn is town though, he looks
good and what he has done in the time he has
been in the thread has ben good so I don't
really care about how active he is, he is one
of the few new guys I expecct to be active as
both alignments so his lowered activity just
doesn't bother me.
OO points out the VE problem with towrn read
into vote. I like this, he is thinking
critically, I just wish it was about mroe
than people going after him.
Follows it up with suspicion on SnB. Never
mind, OO is probably town. He doesn't have it
in him to do this as scum. SO much reread and
rethink going on here. I don't think I agree
with SnB scum but I'll have to reread after
catching up.
Rayn has good thoughts on SnB, pushes him
(the slot machine) further into town
catagory. He is approaching things the right
way. I have to go reread Oats depending on NK
numbers, not as sure about him=town based
town tell as I was and if NKs don't match up
he is a real possibility for scum.
I'm pretty sure Kush is town. Which is too
bad. Ah well, if he pushes scum lynches for a
while we vig/shoot him since that means he is
scum but for now I'll take him as town based
on his first post on pg 56. Too lazy to go
into it. If you want the meta read ask.
Have no idea what Oats is saying here, still
an idiot (<3) but yeah...reread this
motherfucker. Need to look into this vote
stealer thing, may also be a scum power
where he gives up his vote in return for
something else? No hidden vote appeared on
anyone and so 'stolen' doesn't work. OATS:
what was the prashing of the PM? was your
vote stolen? Or removed or what?
lol Shiro, this kid should still be in
newbies. Mafia is a game of "words againt
words". Rayn, I'd love some insight on this
kid. You've played with him, gimme a rundown
of how he thinks.
Sloosh is a player I haven't even noticed
yet. Not a good sign from a player whom I
respect. Added to reread list. I like his
posts on 56 though so this might be his new
inactive town meta. I'll look again. I do
like his post about Rayn/OO, a lot. Kid can
think. Town side of null on first read.
OO brings up Vayne's play conflicting with
his 'logical townie' playstyle. My impression
is that Vayne thinks of himself as logical
and not emotional not that he is actually
logical instead of emotional. We only get
this 'logical' idea from Vayne himself. And
based on his hissy fit he clearly thinks of
himself as better than he is.
OO again with the good thoughts on SLoosh (pg
57), I don't like to be wrong d1 but I think
I was. Also "farting into the wind" is
hilarious. As he says, Sloosh's play is big
words, which is usually town sloosh, but that
does need to be backed up.
Vayne is so mad. Can someone give him a
handie or something to shut him up and get
him to pay attention. k thx. (still town
though).
I want to see this SnB/OO tiff play out. SnB,
waht do you think about the oats vote steal
and what did occur if he is scum. I doubt a
townie would use votesteal d1 since d1 wagons
are a big part of how one analyses the game
and taking away a vote from scum is awful.
Both OO and SnB want more from Shiro, don't
we all.
SnB bringing up Chaoser is +1 in my book,
where the hell is that guy? VE never followed
up on me asking about him (though neither did
I). VE, BH, prp and SnB (and maaaaybe hiro?)
you guys have been around long enough to know
Chaoser, I'd love some insight.
WTF Vayne with the VE is scum, VE/Prom will
get shot tonight. Sure thing, buddy sure
thing.
bh, why you pop up to talk about how cool you
are and not say anything useful? WoS still
confirmed scum? Y/N.
Vivax picks up on the Vayne idiocy from
above. Good man. I think Vivax is town (and I
hope to hell I'm right since if I am this
will be my first ever right read on Vivax, go
me!).
Pg 58 Oh, so VE is suspicious if he lives
through the night, eh Vayne? What about me?
Why am I not? Or am I misreading your post?
Vivax calls him/bh as nk. Note taken. Viv on
WoS like butter on bread. He thinks WoS is
only scum under pressure though, so OO/Oats
are town? Gotta check if this matches his
earlier reads.
Rayn attacking Vivax while probably wrong is
good sign, if Viv is town he can be quite the
fighter and insighting him as scum = terrible
idea.
VE with the appology post. Gotta relook at
chrono for my meta case on him. Doesn't look
all that similar though night =/= day.
Hiro with the shit talk but no contribution
on BH. That isn't how I think of Hiro's town
game. Didn't he say in ACME obs that I was as
bad as kush since I hadn't cought scum.
Catching scum is everything to him and he
doesn't seem fussed about it. Likely scum.
Needs a reread.
I don't fit into either catagory of WoS
detracotrs or WoS knob gobblers. I am
champion! WoS, you gotta talk to me about why
you have such a you boner and what you
actually think about this shit? Why say bh
will get NK'd? didn't you say scum love to
tunnel/push you? Don't like this from WoS at
all
computer illiterate huh. The preview button not working?
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On May 16 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote:
Up to the bottom of 58, computer dying and switching to tablet. Sorry for wall o text. Please read.
Reevaluating all reads and Catching up:
I really hate how Hiro plays, I'm not sure if that is alignment indicative though and Hiro isn't bad when town. A d1 no-lynch punches me in the soul though.
UPDATE (OO reminded me) vayne's Newbie game is now over. The reason I feel he is town on his posting here is that his scum hunting techniques (bad though they are) remain consistent from that game to this one. His thought process here reflects his newbie game in which he was TOWN since I don't believe he is a strong enough player to replicate his town thought process as sccum that means he is probably TOWN here too. VE, look at this and provide your thoughts please and thanks.
OO's many posts after my last one look a lot better than what came before. The effort he is putting in look like a townie OO and depending on how he follows them up as I continue reading I'd say I lean town on him now. If OO proves town I'm concerned about a scum VE as Viscera should be way better than me at reading OO and had him as a town read but recinded that to follow me and vote him.
I would call these two opposite alignments I think with a small possibility of both town but zero possibility OO scum/VE town.
Vivax looks good in these posts (still page 55) don't think he would call a no-lynch a fail vote as scum. He'd probably fuck off and laugh. Also his comment about the Katina picture makes me laugh (dude, can't you tell that is a girl and not me? I'm way more manly than that) and making me laugh is a plus one in my book.
Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a really stupid thing to do. Unfortunately its a stupid thing I think Oats would do as either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in game it is a lie until proven otherwise.
Still think Rayn is town though, he looks good and what he has done in the time he has been in the thread has ben good so I don't really care about how active he is, he is one of the few new guys I expecct to be active as both alignments so his lowered activity just doesn't bother me.
OO points out the VE problem with town read into vote. I like this, he is thinking critically, I just wish it was about more than people going after him.
Follows it up with suspicion on SnB. Never mind, OO is probably town. He doesn't have it in him to do this as scum. SO much reread and rethink going on here. I don't think I agree with SnB scum but I'll have to reread after catching up.
Rayn has good thoughts on SnB, pushes him (the slot machine) further into town category. He is approaching things the right way. I have to go reread Oats depending on NK numbers, not as sure about him=town based town tell as I was and if NKs don't match up he is a real possibility for scum.
I'm pretty sure Kush is town. Which is too bad. Ah well, if he pushes scum lynches for a while we vig/shoot him since that means he is scum but for now I'll take him as town based on his first post on pg 56. Too lazy to go into it. If you want the meta read ask.
Have no idea what Oats is saying here, still an idiot (<3) but yeah...reread this motherfucker. Need to look into this vote stealer thing, may also be a scum power where he gives up his vote in return for something else? No hidden vote appeared on anyone and so 'stolen' doesn't work. OATS: what was the phrasing of the PM? was your vote stolen? Or removed or what?
lol Shiro, this kid should still be in newbies. Mafia is a game of "words against words". Rayn, I'd love some insight on this kid. You've played with him, gimme a rundown of how he thinks.
Sloosh is a player I haven't even noticed yet. Not a good sign from a player whom I respect. Added to reread list. I like his posts on 56 though so this might be his new inactive town meta. I'll look again. I do like his post about Rayn/OO, a lot. Kid can think. Town side of null on first read.
OO brings up Vayne's play conflicting with his 'logical townie' playstyle. My impression is that Vayne thinks of himself as logical and not emotional not that he is actually logical instead of emotional. We only get this 'logical' idea from Vayne himself. And based on his hissy fit he clearly thinks of himself as better than he is.
OO again with the good thoughts on SLoosh (pg 57), I don't like to be wrong d1 but I think I was. Also "farting into the wind" is hilarious. As he says, Sloosh's play is big words, which is usually town sloosh, but that does need to be backed up.
Vayne is so mad. Can someone give him a handie or something to shut him up and get him to pay attention. k thx. (still town
though).
I want to see this SnB/OO tiff play out. SnB, what do you think about the oats vote steal and what did occur if he is scum. I doubt a townie would use votesteal d1 since d1 wagons are a big part of how one analyses the game and taking away a vote from scum is awful.
Both OO and SnB want more from Shiro, don't we all.
SnB bringing up Chaoser is +1 in my book, where the hell is that guy? VE never followed up on me asking about him (though neither did I). VE, BH, prp and SnB (and maaaaybe hiro?)you guys have been around long enough to know Chaoser, I'd love some insight.
WTF Vayne with the VE is scum, VE/Prom will get shot tonight. Sure thing, buddy sure thing.
bh, why you pop up to talk about how cool you are and not say anything useful? WoS still confirmed scum? Y/N.
Vivax picks up on the Vayne idiocy from above. Good man. I think Vivax is town (and I hope to hell I'm right since if I am this will be my first ever right read on Vivax, go me!).
Pg 58 Oh, so VE is suspicious if he lives through the night, eh Vayne? What about me? Why am I not? Or am I misreading your post?
Vivax calls him/bh as nk. Note taken. Viv on WoS like butter on bread. He thinks WoS is only scum under pressure though, so OO/Oats are town? Gotta check if this matches his earlier reads.
Rayn attacking Vivax while probably wrong is good sign, if Viv is town he can be quite the fighter and insighting him as scum = terrible idea.
VE with the appology post. Gotta relook at chrono for my meta case on him. Doesn't look all that similar though night =/= day.
Hiro with the shit talk but no contribution on BH. That isn't how I think of Hiro's town game. Didn't he say in ACME obs that I was as bad as kush since I hadn't cought scum. Catching scum is everything to him and he doesn't seem fussed about it. Likely scum. Needs a reread.
I don't fit into either catagory of WoS detractors or WoS knob gobblers. I am champion! WoS, you gotta talk to me about why you have such a you boner and what you actually think about this shit? Why say bh will get NK'd? didn't you say scum love to tunnel/push you? Don't like this from WoS at all
Okay, formatted better and I corrected the typos I found. Back to my reread now. Remind me to murder the guy who programmed such a terrible copy/paste function into notepad.
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My stupid shitty computer was dying, had to post it before it died. Shush or I keel yoooooou!
On May 16 2013 23:54 Oatsmaster wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 16 2013 23:50 Promethelax wrote:
Up to the bottom of 58, computer dying and switching to tablet. Sorry for wall o text. Please read.
Reevaluating all reads and Catching up:
I really hate how Hiro plays, I'm not sure if
that is alignment indicative though and Hiro
isn't bad when town. A d1 no-lynch punches me
in the soul though.
UPDATE (OO reminded me) vayne's Newbie game
is now over. The reason I feel he is town on
his posting here is that his scum hunting
techniques (bad though they are) remain
consistent from that game to this one. His
thought process here reflects his newbie game
in which he was TOWN since I don't believe he
is a strong enough player to replicate his
town thought process as sccum that means he
is probably TOWN here too. VE, look at this
and provide your thoughts please and thanks.
OO's many posts after my last one look a lot
better than what came before. The effort he
is putting in look like a townie OO and
depending on how he follows them up as I
continue reading I'd say I lean town on him
now. If OO proves town I'm concerned about a
scum VE as Viscera should be way better than
me at reading OO and had him as a town read
but recinded that to follow me and vote him.
I would call these two opposite alignments I
think with a small possibility of both town
but zero possibility OO scum/VE town.
Vivax looks good in these posts (still page
55) don't think he would call a no-lynch a
fail vote as scum. He'd probably fuck off and
laugh. Also his comment about the Katina
picture makes me laugh (dude, can't you tell
that is a girl and not me? I'm way more manly
than that) and making me laugh is a plus one
in my book.
Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to
less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a
really stupid thing to do. Unfortunantly its
a stupid thing I think Oats would do as
either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in
game it is a lie until proven otherwise.
Still think Rayn is town though, he looks
good and what he has done in the time he has
been in the thread has ben good so I don't
really care about how active he is, he is one
of the few new guys I expecct to be active as
both alignments so his lowered activity just
doesn't bother me.
OO points out the VE problem with towrn read
into vote. I like this, he is thinking
critically, I just wish it was about mroe
than people going after him.
Follows it up with suspicion on SnB. Never
mind, OO is probably town. He doesn't have it
in him to do this as scum. SO much reread and
rethink going on here. I don't think I agree
with SnB scum but I'll have to reread after
catching up.
Rayn has good thoughts on SnB, pushes him
(the slot machine) further into town
catagory. He is approaching things the right
way. I have to go reread Oats depending on NK
numbers, not as sure about him=town based
town tell as I was and if NKs don't match up
he is a real possibility for scum.
I'm pretty sure Kush is town. Which is too
bad. Ah well, if he pushes scum lynches for a
while we vig/shoot him since that means he is
scum but for now I'll take him as town based
on his first post on pg 56. Too lazy to go
into it. If you want the meta read ask.
Have no idea what Oats is saying here, still
an idiot (<3) but yeah...reread this
motherfucker. Need to look into this vote
stealer thing, may also be a scum power
where he gives up his vote in return for
something else? No hidden vote appeared on
anyone and so 'stolen' doesn't work. OATS:
what was the prashing of the PM? was your
vote stolen? Or removed or what?
lol Shiro, this kid should still be in
newbies. Mafia is a game of "words againt
words". Rayn, I'd love some insight on this
kid. You've played with him, gimme a rundown
of how he thinks.
Sloosh is a player I haven't even noticed
yet. Not a good sign from a player whom I
respect. Added to reread list. I like his
posts on 56 though so this might be his new
inactive town meta. I'll look again. I do
like his post about Rayn/OO, a lot. Kid can
think. Town side of null on first read.
OO brings up Vayne's play conflicting with
his 'logical townie' playstyle. My impression
is that Vayne thinks of himself as logical
and not emotional not that he is actually
logical instead of emotional. We only get
this 'logical' idea from Vayne himself. And
based on his hissy fit he clearly thinks of
himself as better than he is.
OO again with the good thoughts on SLoosh (pg
57), I don't like to be wrong d1 but I think
I was. Also "farting into the wind" is
hilarious. As he says, Sloosh's play is big
words, which is usually town sloosh, but that
does need to be backed up.
Vayne is so mad. Can someone give him a
handie or something to shut him up and get
him to pay attention. k thx. (still town
though).
I want to see this SnB/OO tiff play out. SnB,
waht do you think about the oats vote steal
and what did occur if he is scum. I doubt a
townie would use votesteal d1 since d1 wagons
are a big part of how one analyses the game
and taking away a vote from scum is awful.
Both OO and SnB want more from Shiro, don't
we all.
SnB bringing up Chaoser is +1 in my book,
where the hell is that guy? VE never followed
up on me asking about him (though neither did
I). VE, BH, prp and SnB (and maaaaybe hiro?)
you guys have been around long enough to know
Chaoser, I'd love some insight.
WTF Vayne with the VE is scum, VE/Prom will
get shot tonight. Sure thing, buddy sure
thing.
bh, why you pop up to talk about how cool you
are and not say anything useful? WoS still
confirmed scum? Y/N.
Vivax picks up on the Vayne idiocy from
above. Good man. I think Vivax is town (and I
hope to hell I'm right since if I am this
will be my first ever right read on Vivax, go
me!).
Pg 58 Oh, so VE is suspicious if he lives
through the night, eh Vayne? What about me?
Why am I not? Or am I misreading your post?
Vivax calls him/bh as nk. Note taken. Viv on
WoS like butter on bread. He thinks WoS is
only scum under pressure though, so OO/Oats
are town? Gotta check if this matches his
earlier reads.
Rayn attacking Vivax while probably wrong is
good sign, if Viv is town he can be quite the
fighter and insighting him as scum = terrible
idea.
VE with the appology post. Gotta relook at
chrono for my meta case on him. Doesn't look
all that similar though night =/= day.
Hiro with the shit talk but no contribution
on BH. That isn't how I think of Hiro's town
game. Didn't he say in ACME obs that I was as
bad as kush since I hadn't cought scum.
Catching scum is everything to him and he
doesn't seem fussed about it. Likely scum.
Needs a reread.
I don't fit into either catagory of WoS
detracotrs or WoS knob gobblers. I am
champion! WoS, you gotta talk to me about why
you have such a you boner and what you
actually think about this shit? Why say bh
will get NK'd? didn't you say scum love to
tunnel/push you? Don't like this from WoS at
all
computer illiterate huh. The preview button not working?
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I like how half your post is about dead people
Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a really stupid thing to do. Unfortunately its a stupid thing I think Oats would do as either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in game it is a lie until proven otherwise.
Where?
Also, my vote was stolen, and there was an anonymous vote on Hiro if im not mistaken. So yeah im totally confirmed town now.
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On May 17 2013 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:I like how half your post is about dead people Show nested quote +Not a fan of Oats allowing Rayn's claim to less time IN GAME effect his read. That is a really stupid thing to do. Unfortunately its a stupid thing I think Oats would do as either town or scum. Oats: if it is said in game it is a lie until proven otherwise. Where? Also, my vote was stolen, and there was an anonymous vote on Hiro if im not mistaken. So yeah im totally confirmed town now.
Will find it for you. And no there was a vote miscounted on hiro. I really don't like you calling yourself confirmed town over this. Fuck I wish you still sucked butts at scum so I could meta read you.
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