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Blazinghand
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There is always at least 1 scum KP
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On May 01 2013 05:00 kushm4sta wrote:
what day is it?
You haven't been reading have you? Its night.
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On May 01 2013 04:43 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 04:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 01 2013 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Does that seem likely to you? Wanna lynch them before Palmar, yamato or BC? Not necessarily since there's always that 'well why are they still alive' factor, amirite? We'll have to see where tonight takes us and continue to discuss until the flip. VE I will follow TRN's curiousity on this; what are your thoughts regarding Ace atm? TRN I suppose it's possible for 3rd party not to be present this game but I find it unlikely; where does the 2nd night kill on N2 come from? Can you explain all the rbs/kills without the presence of 3rd party? Mafia JOAT/2nd Vigi? We only have one kill to point at and it was when Vigis could shoot, not night 1.
2 mafia vig in this clusterfuck of a game doesn't seem likely when town has no night KP. JOAT more likely but then that means what, they haven't used their power a 2nd time? Or the N1 Rbs were both mafia and we don't have a JK OR vigs?
I dunno...the likeliest to me seems like 3rd party poisoner but if you are right then it's scum JOAT and 3rd party survivor. (I always assume 3rd party in games like this becuase there always fucking is)
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On May 01 2013 05:00 kushm4sta wrote:
what day is it?
It's Christmas day.
Fucking do something.
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On May 01 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 04:43 TheRavensName wrote:On May 01 2013 04:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On May 01 2013 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Does that seem likely to you? Wanna lynch them before Palmar, yamato or BC? Not necessarily since there's always that 'well why are they still alive' factor, amirite? We'll have to see where tonight takes us and continue to discuss until the flip. VE I will follow TRN's curiousity on this; what are your thoughts regarding Ace atm? TRN I suppose it's possible for 3rd party not to be present this game but I find it unlikely; where does the 2nd night kill on N2 come from? Can you explain all the rbs/kills without the presence of 3rd party? Mafia JOAT/2nd Vigi? We only have one kill to point at and it was when Vigis could shoot, not night 1. 2 mafia vig in this clusterfuck of a game doesn't seem likely when town has no night KP. JOAT more likely but then that means what, they haven't used their power a 2nd time? Or the N1 Rbs were both mafia and we don't have a JK OR vigs? I dunno...the likeliest to me seems like 3rd party poisoner but if you are right then it's scum JOAT and 3rd party survivor. (I always assume 3rd party in games like this becuase there always fucking is)
JOAT could have also used veteran, or medic at any point, or framed someone that wasn't checked.I think it's likely a JOAT and a god father left.
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Guys the veterans fight it out. BC/Ace/Palmar, no-holds-barred cagematch. Loser takes yamato in a flame-war post-match to the death.
What do you think?
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On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake.
I claimed this day 2 -_-
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On May 01 2013 05:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Guys the veterans fight it out. BC/Ace/Palmar, no-holds-barred cagematch. Loser takes yamato in a flame-war post-match to the death.
What do you think?
I would preferyou didn't try to play like ace, its unbecoming and did something useful like you tried to do the other day.
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On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_-
BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you.
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On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:
N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed
N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)
N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed
I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.
But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.
This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.
N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.
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TRN I'm less than a little concerned about how you prefer I play this game. *smooches*
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On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_-
I don't see where you specifically attack palmar on the basis of thinking his RB claim is bullshit. I see you bashing his play but not that specifically.
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On May 01 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you.
Why would I care about Ace in said argue match? He is clearly not mafia in my books. He could be 3p but forcing a lynch onto a scum from another scum when both were insanely inactive and useless doesn't scream like a scum move. That screams like ace liking his lynch choice more than anyone else.
I think I have made it insanely clear that Palmar is scum or 3p at this point. His actions don't make sense in any way from a town standpoint.
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On May 01 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you. Why would I care about Ace in said argue match? He is clearly not mafia in my books. He could be 3p but forcing a lynch onto a scum from another scum when both were insanely inactive and useless doesn't scream like a scum move. That screams like ace liking his lynch choice more than anyone else. I think I have made it insanely clear that Palmar is scum or 3p at this point. His actions don't make sense in any way from a town standpoint.
I'm with you there - cop claim is fishy as hell, like, as if Paranoid Cop wasn't the most predictable scum fake-claim EVER amirite?
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On May 01 2013 05:18 TheRavensName wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- I don't see where you specifically attack palmar on the basis of thinking his RB claim is bullshit. I see you bashing his play but not that specifically.
I claimed my block day 2. I have called him to be vigi'd since around a similar time frame, and I made it clear after I came back from the dt shenannigans that he had made it into my scum reads. I made a concentrated post as to explain my read. His RB claim after n1 I can't claim was bullshit given it was one single night of actions. Its the continued nights of information that I use to scream bullshit.
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On May 01 2013 05:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
TRN I'm less than a little concerned about how you prefer I play this game. *smooches*
i know where those lips have been and I would like to request you didn't kiss me with them ever again.
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On May 01 2013 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2013 05:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 01 2013 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 01 2013 05:13 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:40 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On April 30 2013 22:30 TheRavensName wrote:On April 30 2013 22:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK so as I have been thinking recently.
We know there is one jailkeeper running around.
We know there are 3 dt claims(one now dead)
We know there is one mason still masoning, and one who is dead
We know we have 1 dead miller and 1 claimed miller(wos)
We know a mafia vig and a mafia framer are dead
We know a second rb happened n1. This means
a) palmar is lying
b) I am lying
c) An inactive town is a jailkeeper and has been mia for all nights since.
Given 2 millers, 1 framer. I find it extremely unlikely that we have two dts who have fucked up sanities. Insane is very easy to prove, as is insane. We know based on checks that obviousone is town, and palmar has a guilty check on him, I know I am town and he has a guilty check on me. Given that we have only been seeing 1 rb since n1 and joats can't rb as a power I am inclined to say Palmar is scum.
We know 100% that shiaopi is scum based on CC however I believe Palmar should be dealt with next at this time. Who was the second RB night 1? I only recall seeing Palmar. Me Ah I see... Well that works then. Truth be told i think it fits a bit with how hes acted. Even the QT, which is probably kinda eh evidence, would lend to this: He wouldn't want to push a case that isn't being discussed actively as it would make him stand out too much no matter the flip. If he is 3rd party, he could have overlapped a shot with the mafia or taken a hit and claimed Roleblocked to safely explain both. Kinda surprised you didn't mention this before today though like on day 3 when we only had 1 roleblock and people were saying at least one cop had to be fake. I claimed this day 2 -_- BC I'm rooting for you to win in the upcoming match! Ace looks way more townie though, but he tried to oppose my ShiaoPi lynch, and verily called him town for two days. I have faith that if you're townie you'll make me see it soon enough. In the meantime know that I'm pulling for you. Why would I care about Ace in said argue match? He is clearly not mafia in my books. He could be 3p but forcing a lynch onto a scum from another scum when both were insanely inactive and useless doesn't scream like a scum move. That screams like ace liking his lynch choice more than anyone else. I think I have made it insanely clear that Palmar is scum or 3p at this point. His actions don't make sense in any way from a town standpoint. I'm with you there - cop claim is fishy as hell, like, as if Paranoid Cop wasn't the most predictable scum fake-claim EVER amirite?
Let alone trying to get a top player lynched on a single check, not doing things he promised, etc... His play is not that of a town aligned player. Given the fake claim I would say more likely scum given that his claim could have caused a ton of confusion and thus fucked town over hard. The counter claiming by two dts where somewhat dumb on one hand is a good way to determine legitimacy of the others given how they played after the claims.
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