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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 30 2013 15:13 GMT
#3621
On May 01 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
yo guys,
kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party....

What is this supposed to be?


Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me

Looks like a WifomBomb®


you dont say?
Lets kill yamato too while we are at it
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
April 30 2013 15:19 GMT
#3622
On May 01 2013 00:13 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
yo guys,
kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party....

What is this supposed to be?


Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me

Looks like a WifomBomb®


you dont say?
Lets kill yamato too while we are at it

so you're calling three scum, two 3rd parties and a Planar Dragon in there somewhere?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 30 2013 15:23 GMT
#3623
On May 01 2013 00:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 00:13 ShiaoPi wrote:
On May 01 2013 00:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:47 yamato77 wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:43 ShiaoPi wrote:
yo guys,
kill gigyas, stutters and VE thats the scum team and kush or the cobbler are 3rd party....

What is this supposed to be?


Just leaving behind my point of view, before someone stupid hammers me

Looks like a WifomBomb®


you dont say?
Lets kill yamato too while we are at it

so you're calling three scum, two 3rd parties and a Planar Dragon in there somewhere?


dont forget two traitors: BM and Sharrant

no in all seriousness, I am farily sure in gigyas and stutters, coinflipping between VE and palmar and I do think one of kush/cobbler are 3rd party
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 15:23 GMT
#3624
This is easily one of the most fun games I've ever played thus far guise. Though I get the feeling BH is gonna get some setup backlash once its over.

Yamato lynch ace because mafia or 3p? Remember we are going to have to find 2 more mafia and we're not all that close atm it seems.

Personally I could see Palmar and either Stutters or GigabyteS. I have to try to figure out what Palmar's check today really means; I'm also curious as to whether him not following the plan means something...?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
April 30 2013 15:31 GMT
#3625
I went over Kush's and GiggleS' filter and have a likely town read on Kush and a weak town read on GrapeS. Kush for saying a few things that are too dumb to be scum and GrimeS would've had to bus half his team to be scum, which is still possible given how inactive they were but eh.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 30 2013 15:34 GMT
#3626
##AVADA KEDAVRA!!!!

oh snap!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 30 2013 15:36 GMT
#3627
The narrative I've managed to work out in my head feels rather conspiracy-theorist, so I'm not sure if I'm right or not. Wishy washy stances, yeah yeah, but it's something I've been thinking about since the syl flip.

So assuming Shiao is mafia, that makes the day 2 wagons BOTH mafia. People that felt there was little difference between them would be largely absolved, in my opinion. What would then be strange were the two people who argued over the two of them, VE and Ace.

As I said before, there is a clear scum motivation in saving Shiao and bussing Clarity, because Clarity was likely to be mod killed anyway and highly inactive. Ace proposes that this lost the scum team 2 KP, and it did, but it actually served to SAVE a scum member, since before Ace's push, Shiao was the one getting lynched. Some time in day 2, people began to realize just how inactive Clarity was, and it became apparent that he was more than likely to be mod killed. So the Clarity bus, assuming Shiao is mafia, is actually making the best out of a shit situation.

Ace also argues in his filter that the scum team would have pushed an alternative target, but people fail to realize that this person was me. Thread sentiment has been against me the entire game, and even the way Ace develops his suspicion of me on day 1 is worth looking at. And on day 2, there is no shortage of referring to me being a possible lynch candidate in Ace's filter.

What adds on to this for me is that his metric for determining the better lynch between Clarity/Shiao is somewhat suspect. Most of it no longer applies, because in knowing that Clarity was scum, and Shiao was scum, we realize that him not voting his scum buddy in the time he was there is not weird whatsoever. The VCA that "scummy people" from the Oats wagon were on the Shiao wagon is also complete bullshit, and I've been over that before.

Another thing is the choice of NK, CC. His check was the one on Shiao, and it was this check that Ace wanted to argue against, that CC was suspicious for his claim and not to be trusted. Later, he goes on to about face once he realizes people are believing CC and plays along with this whole thing, but he's still disruptive in the sense that he wanted cops to check each other, which CC was obviously against from a look at his filter. So with VE complying, and Palmar being a wildcard and under some suspicion, he NK's the cop everyone believes that isn't following his circle jerk plan.

Shiao flipping a scum largely invalidates the largest part of why people should believe Ace as town, which were his day 2 actions with the lynch. When you eliminate that, which is a large portion of his actual contribution this game, his filter devolves significantly, and you're left with a lot of arguing with people and insulting others, along with bullying people for their read on him.

So yeah, Ace could definitely be scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 30 2013 15:37 GMT
#3628
ShiaoPi is lynched. Please don't post until the official Night Post goes up.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 15:37 GMT
#3629
Fucker just hammered himself. All I can say is if he is somehow town and we have players like this we are rightly fucked. Too many people voted too early on a day we were supposed to take it slow.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 30 2013 16:04 GMT
#3630
On April 30 2013 23:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:13 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:43 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, BC calling Palmar scum is a complete OMGUS if you look at the top of the page. Palmar just called BC scum. BC = active lurking here.

I think BC brought up a good point though. He claimed roleblocked, which means jailed, and Palmar went out of his way to mention multiple times that it was a JK that saved his life and it had to have been his life saved. Yet there was two roleblocks only on that night so... that is something. And I think of Palmar was really trying to push for BC instead of look kinda useful crazy cop man, he would have seen that descrepincy and mentioned it when he was saying he saw that BC came up red for his check.

But if Palmar was lying and isn't a cop, why did he claim a guilty check on OO? If he isn't a cop and wanted BC lynched, he shot himself in the foot there.

He could claim paranoid, which he just did. It worked if he was believed, and sense no one bit thanks to our cop mass dibacle, he got another day to say he was paranoid.

It's a plausible explanation, but there were still plenty of people that at least mildly suspected BC. I don't think Palmar would've started a gambit like this and halfass it that much only to abandon it the next day, though it is possible that he did so because two other people claimed cop which he didn't expect.
Hmm. It's also strange that Palmar was on VE's case so much all through D1 and I believe D2 then didn't end up checking him, but rather the cobbler which he only mentioned twice before that day, once in the "list of bloodycobblers" and once in response to getting called out by him.

Palmar, why did you end up checking BC instead of VE when you called him scum all day, and what caused you to change your read on VE?


I checked BC both day 1 and day 2.

I just tunneled VE because it felt nice.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#3631
On May 01 2013 01:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 23:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:13 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:48 TheRavensName wrote:
On April 30 2013 22:43 Bill Murray wrote:
Also, BC calling Palmar scum is a complete OMGUS if you look at the top of the page. Palmar just called BC scum. BC = active lurking here.

I think BC brought up a good point though. He claimed roleblocked, which means jailed, and Palmar went out of his way to mention multiple times that it was a JK that saved his life and it had to have been his life saved. Yet there was two roleblocks only on that night so... that is something. And I think of Palmar was really trying to push for BC instead of look kinda useful crazy cop man, he would have seen that descrepincy and mentioned it when he was saying he saw that BC came up red for his check.

But if Palmar was lying and isn't a cop, why did he claim a guilty check on OO? If he isn't a cop and wanted BC lynched, he shot himself in the foot there.

He could claim paranoid, which he just did. It worked if he was believed, and sense no one bit thanks to our cop mass dibacle, he got another day to say he was paranoid.

It's a plausible explanation, but there were still plenty of people that at least mildly suspected BC. I don't think Palmar would've started a gambit like this and halfass it that much only to abandon it the next day, though it is possible that he did so because two other people claimed cop which he didn't expect.
Hmm. It's also strange that Palmar was on VE's case so much all through D1 and I believe D2 then didn't end up checking him, but rather the cobbler which he only mentioned twice before that day, once in the "list of bloodycobblers" and once in response to getting called out by him.

Palmar, why did you end up checking BC instead of VE when you called him scum all day, and what caused you to change your read on VE?


I checked BC both day 1 and day 2.

I just tunneled VE because it felt nice.

LOL

Oh god
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 30 2013 16:18 GMT
#3632
No more posting! This is a warning!
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 30 2013 18:03 GMT
#3633
ShiaoPi the Lord Voldemort is dead.

Night ends in 24 hours.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 18:04 GMT
#3634
And there we are.
Fuck all y'all 'cause I was right D2 also. (Except for thinking Clarity was town lol)
Time to go look through a bunch of shit to see what I can seeeeeeeeeeeee
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 30 2013 18:06 GMT
#3635
hehe
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#3636
Oh yeah, missing RB probably also explained; Shiao was afk a whole weekend, right?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 18:11 GMT
#3637
Well.. PALMAR!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 18:19 GMT
#3638
On April 23 2013 00:31 Palmar wrote:
List of probably town:

Bill Murray
getmoript (QT thing)
Vivax
slot machine dude
hopeless

list of maybe town:

Ace
grush
cheesecake
kush
Sylencia
TheRavensName

list of who knows:

WaveofShadow
Tube
Drazak
Clarity_nl
Sharrant
Yamato77
ShiaoPi

list of bloodycobblers:

BloodyCobbler

list of somewhat scummy fuckers (based on absolutely nothing):

DoctorHelvetica
ObviousOne
Oatsmaster
giggles

This post is interesting now. Note how more than half the scumteam is contained within. (If you don't believe I'm town or Sharrant is, then ignore the green) Note also instead of calling them 'somewhat scummy,' which isn't even committing to a read, (especially since he says it's based on nothing) he groups them into 'who knows' to avoid even associating the word scumy with them. CONTINUING THE REAADDDD I'll try to consolidate my next post just wanted to get this one out thar
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 18:27 GMT
#3639
Look. No more mafia jailer. That's much more useful then clarity. Bussing looks to be a sure thing.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2013 18:31 GMT
#3640
On May 01 2013 03:27 TheRavensName wrote:
Look. No more mafia jailer. That's much more useful then clarity. Bussing looks to be a sure thing.

How is jailer more useful than extra mafia KP? The only thing that made the bus a sure thing was the likelihood of Clarity's being modkilled. It's possible they follow your train of thought, but either way bus was obvious and necessary for scum.

Case on Palmar inc., though not sure if more likely scum or town yet. I'm about halfway in.
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