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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 30 2013 21:08 GMT
#3701
On May 01 2013 06:03 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
OH PALMAR WHO'S YORU SCUMBUDDY? IS IT ARTANIS?

Make it real small so that only I can see it! Everyone will promise not to look right guys?

That'd be sick, we could have a sick back and forth going on where he calls you scum and I call you town and we derail the entire thread like that. I wish I was on a QT with Palmar now.

TRN, can you mason me next? I want to banter with him

You do realize if I mason you its just me and you right? Games with the always expanding mason list with everyone otgether is done with host controling who gets masoned/rnging it.

Oh.
Well that's boring. Nevermind then
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:08 GMT
#3702
Also guys at what point are we going to discuss the viability of TRN as a lynch candidate considering we've flipped a town masoner already? Because I was waiting until more scum flipped, and it seems like now is a good time to bring up the subject.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 30 2013 21:12 GMT
#3703
On May 01 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:

N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed

N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)

N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed

I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.

But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.


This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.

N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.

Or scum JOAT, as TRN and I discussed. That would fulfill the possibility that neither of you is lying.


Except according to the OP JOATs can't roleblock.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 30 2013 21:13 GMT
#3704
On May 01 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also guys at what point are we going to discuss the viability of TRN as a lynch candidate considering we've flipped a town masoner already? Because I was waiting until more scum flipped, and it seems like now is a good time to bring up the subject.

Considering the possibility of 3 fucking dts isn't completely off the table (or at least the possibility that one of you didn't actually lie) I'd believe it. I dunno I've had Raven as town all game---do you have something else to go on?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#3705
On May 01 2013 06:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:

N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed

N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)

N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed

I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.

But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.


This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.

N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.

Or scum JOAT, as TRN and I discussed. That would fulfill the possibility that neither of you is lying.


Except according to the OP JOATs can't roleblock.

OOOO interesting; you're right. This means if we don't have 3p with KP then scum JOAT hasn't used their 2nd night power?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:17 GMT
#3706
On May 01 2013 06:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also guys at what point are we going to discuss the viability of TRN as a lynch candidate considering we've flipped a town masoner already? Because I was waiting until more scum flipped, and it seems like now is a good time to bring up the subject.

Considering the possibility of 3 fucking dts isn't completely off the table (or at least the possibility that one of you didn't actually lie) I'd believe it. I dunno I've had Raven as town all game---do you have something else to go on?

Not really, just spitballin. We haven't flipped a repeat blue role yet - not saying we won't or can't, just that we haven't that I'm aware of.

Maybe I add TRN to my list of people to look over tonight. Might as well right?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:18 GMT
#3707
On May 01 2013 06:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:

N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed

N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)

N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed

I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.

But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.


This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.

N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.

Or scum JOAT, as TRN and I discussed. That would fulfill the possibility that neither of you is lying.


Except according to the OP JOATs can't roleblock.

OOOO interesting; you're right. This means if we don't have 3p with KP then scum JOAT hasn't used their 2nd night power?

Well no, we just don't have proof of them using their 2nd power.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:19 GMT
#3708
On May 01 2013 06:18 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 06:12 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On April 30 2013 23:26 Sharrant wrote:
I don't see a town jailer doing that, to be honest. My most likely scenario is:

N1:
Palmar jailed (seemed to be the towniest looking Vet in a lot of people's eyes)
BC RB'ed

N2:
Ace Jailed (Just lynched scum)
Either Ace also RB'ed or maybe RB on their shot (not sure if that messes with veteran orSK/SP protection in this game.)

N3
??? Jailed
VE RB'ed

I will be considering VE confirmed town because of this. The exception is if it was a town jailer who jailed BC, Ace was double jailed, and the jailer did not think the plan through and decided to VE because... terrible reasoning? It seems like a stretch to think of this as two town jailers.

But I would wager that Palmar and Ace were both town jailed. I guess it remains to be seen if there's another roleblocked player. But a town jailer jailing VE just does not make sense to me.


This post doesn't make sense. The only way to be roleblocked in this game is to be jailed. IE for me to be roleblocked n1 requires me being jailed. As it would with Palmar.

N2 we only had ace rb'ed and VE on n3. These all count as protections as well. I find it extremely unlikely that one jailkeeper is so inactive to not send in their power use for two night periods. Given that I doubt BH would be so much of an ass to not let mafia control an inactive member of their teams powers it means a town jailer has been mia 99% of the game or one of Palmar and I is lying about n1. I know what my pms say thus I say palmar and if he lied about that he sure as hell is lying about his claim.

Or scum JOAT, as TRN and I discussed. That would fulfill the possibility that neither of you is lying.


Except according to the OP JOATs can't roleblock.

OOOO interesting; you're right. This means if we don't have 3p with KP then scum JOAT hasn't used their 2nd night power?

Well no, we just don't have proof of them using their 2nd power.

Yeah, and they don't all leave traces. Just assume that scum have both JOAT powers available to them if the role exists.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:20 GMT
#3709
If Ace is Rita Skeeter I'm gonna laugh my ass off and cry because I hate that character.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:20 GMT
#3710
On May 01 2013 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 01 2013 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also guys at what point are we going to discuss the viability of TRN as a lynch candidate considering we've flipped a town masoner already? Because I was waiting until more scum flipped, and it seems like now is a good time to bring up the subject.

Considering the possibility of 3 fucking dts isn't completely off the table (or at least the possibility that one of you didn't actually lie) I'd believe it. I dunno I've had Raven as town all game---do you have something else to go on?

Not really, just spitballin. We haven't flipped a repeat blue role yet - not saying we won't or can't, just that we haven't that I'm aware of.

Maybe I add TRN to my list of people to look over tonight. Might as well right?

Sure, why not? May want to hurry with that though, its quite likely your going to die for being the believable cop alive.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#3711
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 30 2013 21:22 GMT
#3712
I think we should consider looking into Artanis and stutters. I mean, why would the host replace inactive town just to mod kill scum?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
April 30 2013 21:23 GMT
#3713
Could've ended up with a double stack (scum + 3p) on CC. Could be BC/ Palmar for SK with a roleblock. We'll know more after tonight.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#3714
On May 01 2013 06:22 geript wrote:
I think we should consider looking into Artanis and stutters. I mean, why would the host replace inactive town just to mod kill scum?

Host WIFOM will get us nowhere. Not to say I disagree with looking into Artanis/Stutters, they're both VERY low content players who deserve scrutiny - but do it based on that and not because of who was modkilled.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:24 GMT
#3715
On May 01 2013 06:23 geript wrote:
Could've ended up with a double stack (scum + 3p) on CC. Could be BC/ Palmar for SK with a roleblock. We'll know more after tonight.

I'm going off what I know NOW because I may not BE around after tonight naaamean?
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#3716
On May 01 2013 06:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:22 geript wrote:
I think we should consider looking into Artanis and stutters. I mean, why would the host replace inactive town just to mod kill scum?

Host WIFOM will get us nowhere. Not to say I disagree with looking into Artanis/Stutters, they're both VERY low content players who deserve scrutiny - but do it based on that and not because of who was modkilled.


So far 3 mafia have been warned for inactivity, stutters also was warned at the same time as shiaopi, coincidence? I think not.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 30 2013 21:25 GMT
#3717
On May 01 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?

Only poisoner is possible if it overlapped with CC or the target got protected, or if poisoner is Ace (got rbed N2). SK impossible imo
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TheRavensName
Profile Joined August 2011
United States911 Posts
April 30 2013 21:29 GMT
#3718
On May 01 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?

3rd Party pierce protection.
I once breadcrumbed watcher in a game with no watchers in the setup.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
April 30 2013 21:29 GMT
#3719
Arguably I could have been shot by SK last night, as unlikely as that seems unless last scum AND SK are inside [Palmar/Ace/BC] which at this point I'm almost ruling out completely.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 30 2013 21:30 GMT
#3720
On May 01 2013 06:29 TheRavensName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 06:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
We don't have enough kills for there to be an SK or poisoner do we? I mean, they oculd have been hiding it on likely medic protects or something, but both SK and poisoner are compulsive and we've gone a couple nights with 1 kill right?

3rd Party pierce protection.


except jailkeeping protection
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