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I was on a team with this guy, and i never suspected him of hacking because i thought he was bad. He never practiced, ever. He even quit for like 6 months. He was somehow grandmasters once though, which i thought was fishy. Then he came back, played like 60 games a season and got top 16. At the end of WoL he got rank 1... which i thought was absolutely ridiculous and i talked to people about it and we were all dumbfounded as to that happened. In practice he would suck, in CW's (the once in a blue moon he'd show up for) he would suck. Now I hear he is all killing every team he plays and beating top progamers in WCS...
Sucks, he was a cool guy for the most part. Gone off the deep end though. Blizz really needs to step up their efforts because there's a lot more people doing this kind of stuff and they will probably never get caught.
sorry to everyone affected by this
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What about the account levelers dont they play a role in this?
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Of course. The account levelers are the ones who are doing the alleged map/production tab hacking after all. But they're not going to be known unless Physics or somebody else lets us know. So for now there's not much to do on that end.
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Hopefully this guy is banned from future tournaments if found guilty!
but for now innocent till proven guilty?
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On April 21 2013 11:19 SoOJuuu wrote: Hopefully this guy is banned from future tournaments if found guilty!
but for now innocent till proven guilty?
The proof is pretty overwhelming by this point - iMpMarine seems like a decent guy who's genuinely trying to get to the bottom of this, but if he's still holding out hope that PhysicsLee 1. is who he says he is, and 2. doesn't have people who hack playing on his account, then iMpMarine must be in denial.
Also, if you look at Catz twitter and the other pros who are tweeting at him, lots of top level NA players are coming out saying they know "he" (i.e., the guy who plays for him in high level games) is a hacker.
Andy Wilson @SabreSC2 40m @ROOTCatZ @FXOJimRiSiNg played him on ladder when he was in xO, he's a maphacker
Robert Switts @FXOSirRobin 25m @ROOTCatZ @FXOJimRiSiNg Yeah, I know about him. He's 100% a hacker and has been a known hacker for weeks, months maybe.
Stephen Schnieder @todeskampf 21m @FXOSirRobin @ROOTCatZ @FXOJimRiSiNg I also can attest to him being a hacker. 150 APM in top gm beating pros lol
Jason Zhang @areaHaneul 2h @ROOTCatZ @FXOJimRiSiNg I reviewed replays of him provided by high gm friends. He has 2 distinct hotkey setups (!!!!!) and sees the future.
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Its obvious hes a damn hacker.
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Marines a genuinely good guy dont direct any of your hate to him.
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On April 21 2013 11:35 InsidiA wrote: Marines a genuinely good guy dont direct any of your hate to him. Absolutely this. Don't pitchfork the wrong people ;x
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On April 21 2013 11:39 infKelsier wrote: So apparently PhysicsLee used a drop hack in game 3 vs Duster and then reported the game as a win for him.
Can't win with map/production hacks so has to drop hack instead.
Fucking Joke of a player
someone posted this in the WCS thread just now... if its true oh my god...
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On April 21 2013 11:16 Megiddosc wrote: Of course. The account levelers are the ones who are doing the alleged map/production tab hacking after all. But they're not going to be known unless Physics or somebody else lets us know. So for now there's not much to do on that end.
well those guys wont be found But what about the other account levelers in the the SC2 community? Should they be punished too? After all they are providing the services?(putting Lee's hacking aside)
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On April 21 2013 11:43 TruthMaker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:16 Megiddosc wrote: Of course. The account levelers are the ones who are doing the alleged map/production tab hacking after all. But they're not going to be known unless Physics or somebody else lets us know. So for now there's not much to do on that end. well those guys wont be found But what about the other account levelers in the the SC2 community? Should they be punished too? After all they are providing the services?(putting Lee's hacking aside)
Account sharing is against the ToS, and also goes against the spirit of competition.
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On April 21 2013 11:43 TruthMaker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 11:16 Megiddosc wrote: Of course. The account levelers are the ones who are doing the alleged map/production tab hacking after all. But they're not going to be known unless Physics or somebody else lets us know. So for now there's not much to do on that end. well those guys wont be found But what about the other account levelers in the the SC2 community? Should they be punished too? After all they are providing the services?(putting Lee's hacking aside) If they're playing for someone else in a major tourney (I'm sure WCS American Qualifiers counts), then yes they should be punished in some way.
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Well isnt one of of the posters in this thread an account leveler? https://twitter.com/KalinovSC2
Seems to be sponsored by a site called "Sc2 services" (site for leveling)
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Well account leveling is how alot of pros make money no?
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On April 21 2013 11:55 SoOJuuu wrote: Well account leveling is how alot of pros make money no?
Maybe, but it isn't right none the less imo.
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On April 21 2013 11:55 SoOJuuu wrote: Well account leveling is how alot of pros make money no?
just because something is profitable, doesn't make it ethical. And to be honest, the business isn't really scale-able because they can only get so many people into GM before there are no spots remaining, so I find it hard to believe they are making a lot of money off it.
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Account leveling is what it is, ladder is fine it's just ladder. Doing it in tournaments is completely different.
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On April 19 2013 08:27 orangeorange wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 07:37 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:On April 19 2013 04:48 orangeorange wrote: Physics is a boosted account - he has a booster play both GM ladder games and clanwars for him. The booster uses a production tab hack but does not maphack, so the replays generally look fine (it's just that he always seems lucky in countering builds). Source: I know the guy who boosts his account and I've been following this situation for some time wondering when it would come to light.
Very, very easy way to prove this for yourself:
Tell physics to send you the replays from the games he played on stream yesterday (where he went 0-8), or any other games where you KNOW 100% that it's him. This would exclude clanwar reps where he all-killed, GM ladder games that are on replay sites like drop.sc, etc.
Compare the two batches of replays in SC2gears. They will be nothing alike.
The booster has good mechanics, but his apm is much lower (200-250 or so). The guy who you know as physics has different hotkeys and much higher apm (300-400+, because he spams a lot) but has much worse mechanics and is a significantly worse player overall.
There, that's it. You can even tell looking at Physics' match history on battlenet. Whenever he's on one of his insane ladder winstreaks, or playing a clanwar game, his apm will be in the 200's. Whenever it's him playing as himself, it will be in the 400's. The pattern will match up 100%.
If you want to discuss further, PM me. Since you the know guy "boosting" you should get them to make an announcement about it, or out them yourself. Both of them are in the wrong here if it's true, imo. I completely agree with you about everyone involved being in the wrong. Any such announcement would probably have to come from Physics himself though. Some more information - the "booster" is one of two people who run a leveling service together that's advertised on various hacking websites. They certainly won't make an announcement about Physics themselves, as their whole "business" is based around discretely/anonymously leveling people's accounts for them. People would stop paying them. They've also probably make a nice sum of money from playing for Physics over the past few months and have zero interest (and nothing to gain) in turning on him now. I could certainly out them over PM (I can't/won't link to a hacking website here, obviously), but it wouldn't do much. The two players are both European terrans but are not "known" players in the scene. They're basically anonymous high master's/borderline low GM players without hacks.
Why can't you just out them here? You don't need to link to a hacking website, but it is good to know.
Of you could just out them over PM to me, so I can out them in this thread...
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On April 21 2013 11:53 TruthMaker wrote:Well isnt one of of the posters in this thread an account leveler? https://twitter.com/KalinovSC2Seems to be sponsored by a site called "Sc2 services" (site for leveling) I think he's just sponsored by them, and doesn't level accounts.
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