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On December 03 2012 12:06 kitaman27 wrote: VE, please explain your reason for last night's action...
Kita: please tell us VE's actions.
Hapa, Kei, I'll bow to you both on this one as having a better understanding of VE than I; however I still find him scummy and I'l unvote him if/when he provides something.
Austin: I don't really like how you popped in to defend VE and vanished again. Nothing to add?
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On December 03 2012 12:33 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 12:06 kitaman27 wrote: VE, please explain your reason for last night's action... Kita: please tell us VE's actions. Hapa, Kei, I'll bow to you both on this one as having a better understanding of VE than I; however I still find him scummy and I'l unvote him if/when he provides something. Austin: I don't really like how you popped in to defend VE and vanished again. Nothing to add?
I've never played a game with VE (other than Liquid City, in which we never talked to each other), but from what I've /obs'd in his games, his typical scum-games are really wild. Mad Men mafia is a pretty good example.
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Yeah but so are his town games. This feels like such a departure from his usual meta that it is an attempt to hide something. Though him flipping scum in Paranoia does make me re think some things. I am not keeping up with that game at all.
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Yea I'm not super familiar with VE either. I just know that he flipped scum in Paranoia, and town in LC. And he played extremely differently in all 3 of them.
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Please do not discuss ongoing games
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Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref
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I've played a few games with VE now and spectated a dozen more. Hes a complete mixed bag and almost never plays the same way twice. One thing I know is that he is a very competent scum hunter, when he wants to be. Which brings me to a few issues I have in his filter:
His initial 'case' on Hapa looks pretty half-hearted and about a third of it is not even about Hapa, nor does it establish mafia motives/intent. His case on GK seemed mostly like a regurgitation of things already previously said.
I wouldn't be adverse to hanging him today, but I'd like to hear more from him before I cast that vote.
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S&B promised to attempt a rolecheck on Phagga and instead visited the guy who just flipped?
Yeah, kill it with fire.
##Vote strongandbig
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On December 03 2012 15:09 syllogism wrote: Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref
Orly?
On December 03 2012 07:53 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2012 07:53 kitaman27 wrote: strongandbig...are you willing to use your role tonight on phagga to confirm he is not golem? yeah okay
So we hang S&B today?
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And yes, one (or more) of the main characters is almost certainly mafia unless you think the game can be won on day 1 with a mass claim. Hapa should claim all his abilities and actions tomorrow.
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On December 03 2012 15:34 syllogism wrote: And yes, one (or more) of the main characters is almost certainly mafia unless you think the game can be won on day 1 with a mass claim. Hapa should claim all his abilities and actions tomorrow.
I don't see what good it does, but it doesn't do much harm either I suppose:
1) Flame Resistant Coating - I prevent all fire damage to a target for two cycles (the cycle used and then the next one) 2) Flamethrower - I do 100 damage to my target, followed by 75 damage to his/her target, and 50 damage to the target's target.
Night 1 - Used Flame Resistant Coating on myself Night 2 - Used Fame Resistant Coating on Marvellosity Night 3 - Flamethrower on Toadsstern Night 4 - Flamethrower on Toadsstern Night 5 - Flame Resistant Coating on nl_clarity, but roleblocked Night 6 - Flame Resistant Coating on nl_clarity, but roleblocked
Notable on Night 3, is that the only person who claimed to take exactly 75 damage was Hopeless. Toad could have very well targeted someone else (perhaps someone who took a bundle of damage). Night 4, a bunch of people took 75, so no help there.
Night 5 is relevant in particular, because Syllo, you mentioned that you have some sort of RB+Tracker role. However, I did attempt to protect clarity, so I'm not sure what happened there. Perhaps I was roleblocked by another player, but that's what I attempted every night.
On December 03 2012 15:09 syllogism wrote: Hey guys S&B attempted to visit Djodref
This is pretty lynchable.
##Vote StrongandBig
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Regarding N5 - Syllo claimed that I didn't visit anyone on Night 5. I attempted to protect nl_clarity on N5, so I'm not sure what happened there.
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Flamethrower is incredibly anti-town even with the potential to track actions. Also you know toad flipped a role that had a night action to inflict 100 damage, so shouldn't you have been looking for players who took 175 damage and not 75?!
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On December 03 2012 15:52 syllogism wrote: Flamethrower is incredibly anti-town even with the potential to track actions. Also you know toad flipped a role that had a night action to inflict 100 damage, so shouldn't you have been looking for players who took 175 damage and not 75?!
Well yes that does make more sense lol. For some reason I didn't account for Toad's ability in my notes. Go figure.
But yeah Flamethrower is pretty neutered damage ability. That's why I've been pretty hesitant about using it.
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welp my power 100% got re directed this cycle. I had my seed on clarity again but it was not activated and therefore no one was roleblocked by me. Interesting.
Everyone who was role blocked claim your targets. Something fishy is going on.
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Hapa I can symphatize if you really took 50 damage, thanks to your flamethrower, on the night that clarity healed you, but your damage occured after all the other actions, so you weren't healed. I can see how you could consider that a mod error even though it may not be.
Going to wait until S&B flips until attempting to figure out whether what Prom just said makes any sense
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Syllo, are you seriously just going to ignore the fact that either 1) both Iamp and Hapa are lying or 2) there is a re-director
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That's why I'm waiting until S&B flips because people who he has allegedly targeted have experienced some weird things (Oats not receiving a heal and now something messing with you).
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On December 03 2012 16:50 syllogism wrote: Hapa I can symphatize if you really took 50 damage, thanks to your flamethrower, on the night that clarity healed you, but your damage occured after all the other actions, so you weren't healed. I can see how you could consider that a mod error even though it may not be.
Going to wait until S&B flips until attempting to figure out whether what Prom just said makes any sense
I talked to GreYMisT and he explicitly said I received the wrong PM. He said I took no damage on that night, and should have received a message stating that I was healed. It's straight-up mod-error, and not my perceptions of what transpired over the night PM's.
Anywho, I'm probably going to punch a hole through my wall if I have to talk about N3 role PM's any more. G'gnite.
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