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Osaka27113 Posts
On September 16 2006 20:06 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: Second chances are stupid, especially at this crap
You dont get it. This isn't a second chance for Zia. Zia is dead, hacked into little pieces by reality. This is a first chance for Adam. You dont have to like it, that is fine. Just ignore it. There are 25000 other members on the site you can read.
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Hmm. Well this's been an interesting bunch of events. I don't post here often enough to actually know you or Zia at all. I've got a lot of empathy for anyone who deviates from the gender norms, the trans community, etc. I have no idea how much of that is in any way related to your motivation for doing this, but regardless I'm no stranger to people doing such things.
The car accident thread though.... That was a pretty shitty move bud. The internet is a wonderful way to help supplement your life, but that was a bit much. I honestly felt horrible that things like that could happen to someone who seemed to have such a positive view of life.
Regardless, I never knew you one way or the other, so welcome I supose. I won't really hold anything against you, though future claims will probably be taken with a grain of salt or two.
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Netherlands4511 Posts
so many people got so owned..did you keep track of who hit on you, who tried to cyber with you etc?
BRING OUT THE DIRT!!!
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lol he's just a big poor emo who goes to community college
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Dont understand how people were hurt to know u r a gurl..........
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well we can forgive ; welcom
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Ban and move on already.
The attention will never die. This forum account will always be linked to the half decade mangina fiasco no matter what you think. If you wanted to be free from this you'd make a new account and start over completely.
The reality is "Adam" just wants the attention from being the guy who pretended to be a girl now. Nothing has changed and you're not helping him with his problem of needing the attention his parents never gave him by encouraging him to make posts like this.
You'd be doing him a far bigger favor if you just banned him.
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On September 16 2006 19:11 -_- wrote: Oh yeah. Rpf isn't the lamest person on this forum anymore!!! Rofl, actually I think rpf is kind of cool. Gutsy and fucking determined. He rox me in bed. I never was one of the worst people on here. I'm smarter than a majority of you.
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Why are people so understanding? Whatever happened to the good old forks and torches? Seriously I can't even begin to describe how pathetic this tale sounds. So let me get this straight.
Some guy poses as a girl for 5.5 years while becoming TL.net and BW's sweetheart. Then someone finally exposes him for his duplicity and twists his arm towards the truth. Then every person on this website suddenly have a truck-load of opinions on the matter (most of them never even spoke to the "girl".) Then the guy finally comes clean in an heart-warming monologue about his failed and depressive youth and need of recognition and other BS.
Now what is wrong with this picture? Just about everything. From what I've read in this thread, everyone seems to have puppies and hugs in them. I mean come on, why the hell would most of you understand IT, praise IT and almost kneel before IT for this hoax. It sure is impressive that someone would be able to hold a personna for so long but impressive doesn't nescessarily means good. I think it's impressive that someone can be so bored and mentally disturbed. 5.5 years of trolling is in my opinion, far beyond pretending. I'm sure he flirted once or twice with a dildo during his journey towards e-fame.
Your Zia caracter was, from what I read in the other thread, a disturbed young woman who somehow found her comfort into video gaming, metal and porno. Was that REALLY a side of the character you created? Or was it just some twisted way to cheat yourself into believing that you were actually being honest with the people you tricked? I know what you're going to say : "Hey, every guy loves these things!" Yeah I know we do, but think about it. If you were to create a female personna and try to make it seem as real as possible, would you involve her with FF, porn-stars and all the other incredible thing "Zia" did? The answer is no. In order to really want to create a believable personna and still catch the attention of the other males, you have to ask yourself this question : "Would my character be able to handle the never-ending excitement of being herself?" If the answer is no, then you've created another Zia.
Someone who knew about the events of "her" life and still believed "she" was real is either stupide, or incredibly naïve.
By the way I'm almost in tears when I hear the encouragement and warm welcomes to this Adam. No I'm not touched, I'm disgusted. I can't even begin to imagine how totally bogus it is. Would you welcome a liar with open-arms? Last time I checked, this forum wasn't filled with priests. So please peoples, stop acting like you're one of them.
And PLEASE, people, stop referring to this as GOSSIP. The BW gossips should be "Mondragon was caught hacking during some tournament bla bla bla... (obviously not true, just making a point here)" <<<< THAT'S video game gossip. A guy pretending to be girl for 5.5 years isn't a gossip, it's just incredibly wrong and sad.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Hi Adam.
I like you because you ally the obs when you play team games.
I dislike you because you deceived people and toyed with their feelings (especially eri) for years. You intentionally made many people feel sad for you multiple times. Doing it just once is arguably not that big of a deal: even Mani did it once. But the fact that you did it again and again shows that you didn't feel much or any remorse for fooling people and lying to them: on the contrary, you were definitely enjoying it in some perverse way, and wanted to do it more and more.
His reasoning was different and his longevity was different, and that may very well be all the difference in the world to most of you, but to those of you who are exclusively focused on the gender bending idea, could you really think low of Mani7 right now? I certainly hope not.
For that matter, I could really knock on some posters, admins, and big-named players. This is not a threat in any way, so please do not take it as such, but those of you who know who you are, you know you've done/said things just as sick and beyond. I'm not trying to use this to justify my actions in any way, and I'm not trying to put the spotlight on others for their mistakes. Furthermore, you do not take full responsibility for your actions: you try to explain it as a natural thing to do (so how come none of the other depressed people I know are lying and deceiving everyone around them?). You even have the audacity to claim that all of us have also done comparable acts of harm and deceit, and you try to bring Mani down to your own level as well. That is not true remorse: that is you trying to partially justify your actions.
You also threaten to reveal damaging secrets about other players (and let's be frank: what you said is blackmail and you know it). You even try to intimidate our staff in this way.
In my opinion, you are a very selfish, disturbing, and morally-corrupt individual who will inflict suffering on any number of people to fulfill his desires. Your confession and apology are transparent and they reek of the same self-justification as Ekii's attempt. Then you go beyond what he did and directly threaten our members and administrators. For me, this is unnacceptable. You should be banned for your threats, then IP-banned because, as I see it, there is not a single mental barrier in your head that is stopping you from repeating this all over again.
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On September 16 2006 20:44 rpf289 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2006 19:11 -_- wrote: Oh yeah. Rpf isn't the lamest person on this forum anymore!!! Rofl, actually I think rpf is kind of cool. Gutsy and fucking determined. He rox me in bed. I never was one of the worst people on here. I'm smarter than a majority of you. Smarter and Worst arent opposites.
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in x17 I seen people always talking shit to others like ' this guy is the saddest kid on b.net'
well you take the crown captain
I don't know why, but I have an extreme intolerance to you.
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On September 16 2006 19:54 FrozenArbiter wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2006 19:46 kdog3682 wrote: who is the pornstar that she chose to pick her birthday after?
i wanna google her Supposedly Teagan Presley. And eh, I hope Mani/etc are right about this person not being a potential suicide -,-
Judging from his posts in this topic, Adam is doing just fine and dandy.
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Octopuss--I see your points, but I think the reason why so many people are so willing to accept Adam here is because they're so fucking confused, yet curious. For example, he and I have talked off an on on MSN despite the fact I'm annoyed with him. I think on some level some of us have some trouble separating him from her. At first I admit I did--when I IM'd him, it seemed unreal how his emotes and everything were the ones I was used to getting from "Zia." But now I've accepted that this kid really is just a big liar. I don't hate him. For whatever reason a handful of people here were convinced I was in love with "Zia," but seeing as how I was never really attached I can't really be all that upset.
I'm actually mad at Eri, who as someone in such a huge position (given he's one of the best foreign BW players, and has such a reputation in this community), would lie to all of us...for no reason.
Any time I doubted Zia being real, I'd remember all the stuff that Eri and "she" had supposedly done together. "Why would Eri lie to the thousands of us?" I'd remind myself.
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I have learned many things. Whether people are shy @ the core, insecure, or just plain manipulative, they never change.
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I agree COMPLETELY with Octo and Bill. Honestly, I couldn't have summed up my own thoughts any better.
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