EPTDraz: If you can "find them", does that mean you can communicate with them or something?
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
Draz: If you can "find them", does that mean you can communicate with them or something? | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 23:08 Jayjay54 wrote: the OP suggest 5 different colours. VT, Blues, Scum, Third and Sleepers. but how is this going to help us. Draz: If you can "find them", does that mean you can communicate with them or something? can only find them can't talk to them | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Lets focus back on the elections. While I think Velinath and BH are good candidates, I would be ok with the likes of jayjay or zelblade there as well. There was good info that came out of that discussion, and I think the guys in it are most likely town. | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
If anyone has doubts about my ability to play transparently, please go take a look at Student Mafia. It's from a while ago, but I think I did a good job of playing very transparently, honestly, and actively in that game. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 17 2012 23:34 Velinath wrote: ebwop: as I read through the thread, I noticed Draz claimed third party. I'm not third party; I'm town aligned. If anyone has doubts about my ability to play transparently, please go take a look at Student Mafia. It's from a while ago, but I think I did a good job of playing very transparently, honestly, and actively in that game. Explain the knowledge of balrog then | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
I'm not retarded? Kill flavor of "consumed by shadow and flame", and the first thing I thought of was JRR Tolkien's description of the Balrog as "wreathed in shadow and flame". In addition, I knew that the idea of a Balrog role was something that had been used in previous TL Mafia games. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
first he states that he needs items: On March 17 2012 09:22 Drazerk wrote: Kill wasn't compulsive It is usable at any time with some major limitations It's name is Shadows and Flames I need items and that is all I am telling you about my role then he goes on about ven being the election choice: On March 17 2012 10:00 Drazerk wrote: I propose Velinath gets Wheatley then - I have my reasons but I am going to need you to trust me on this one other whys I might screw towns chances at victory. ##Elect: Velinath (among other posts) then his wincon changes: On March 17 2012 18:09 Drazerk wrote: My win con has changed - Velinath for Wheatley is now a horrific thing and we must not let it happen. Also do NOT let kenpachi get super powers why on earth would you even help him do that. ##unelect: Velinath ##elect: Blazinghand Also I now need an item so if you give me one I will love you forever. he describes his new wincon as following: On March 17 2012 22:12 Drazerk wrote: I claim balrog I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game. Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only . to sum it up: he needs items right from the start, he later claims that his wincon has changed and how his old wincon has changed and his old wincon was to "just survive to the end with town only ". Note how two words stress how townie he was, when in fact he already claimed earlier that he needs items... I believe Drazerk is third. But isn't truthful about his wincon. Even with his claimed wincon he'll be a reliability. He needs to kill a townie (unless you assume gandalf is evil) and will kill everyday to get items, which might not be good for town. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
I can say no more. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
On March 17 2012 23:31 Hassybaby wrote: Ok, I think we've discussed Drazerk enough. He's either tellign the truth, and we can decide how we can use the information later, or he's lying, and we can ill him later. Either way, we should not waste a lynch on him. Lynches are for scum, not third party Lets focus back on the elections. While I think Velinath and BH are good candidates, I would be ok with the likes of jayjay or zelblade there as well. There was good info that came out of that discussion, and I think the guys in it are most likely town. I Disagree Hassy, third parties are still a threat to town and should be elimenated. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On March 18 2012 00:18 Bluelightz wrote: I Disagree Hassy, third parties are still a threat to town and should be elimenated. I agree, but I don't think a lynch should be used. I'd like to leave that for night vigs and shizzle | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
Plain and simple imo. | ||
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On March 18 2012 00:18 Bluelightz wrote: I Disagree Hassy, third parties are still a threat to town and should be elimenated. Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town. | ||
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
On March 18 2012 00:24 Bluelightz wrote: Hassy, IF Drazerk is third party, should we lynch him? I'm thinking we should because that its the best bet we have for a day 1 lynch. No way! He's basically a town-controlled dayvig right now. If we decide to kill him later, that's fine, but for now I believe we can use him. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On March 18 2012 00:24 ghost_403 wrote: Eventually. As of right now, he's no danger to the town. His roleclaim has told us that we don't really need to listen to him, and now that we have his death-flavor/whatever, we'll know when he kills people. If he starts killing townies, we lynch him. Otherwise, I think we should leave him alone and concentrate on finding people who are a threat to the town. Gandolf is really likely a town role he's going to have to shoot townies. I think lynching a confirmed 3rd party day1 is a good idea. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
Draz refers to this old Balrog fake claim and adds another random condition to it. So they took an old fake role as a gag, implemented it here and were like "yea he needs more stuff". You also claim to have restrictions on your KP item wise. Also completely nonsense for flavour (balrog doesn't need shit to kill). I still think he might be sleeper cell or even scum (who didn't intend to claim until he knew he hit third). Overall, draz, you are a perfect day 1 lynch. At worst (in case you weren't bullshitting), we lose a third party who wants to kill a townie and looks for items, which is still OK from town perspective. At best, me nail a lanch at scum or sleeper. Sounds like a plan to me. ##vote Drazerk | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
I think it would be a good idea to KILL him at some point, lynch or otherwise, so we can see what everything he says is true. But right now, I'd like to focus on other aspects like the election. We still have over 24 hours, and a lot of people have yet to say anything, so I think waiting will be better | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On March 18 2012 00:30 Jayjay54 wrote: I think Draz is bullshitting. The "I need 5 items" condition makes no sense as balrog. It's completely random. Draz refers to this old Balrog fake claim and adds another random condition to it. So they took an old fake role as a gag, implemented it here and were like "yea he needs more stuff". You also claim to have restrictions on your KP item wise. Also completely nonsense for flavour (balrog doesn't need shit to kill). I still think he might be sleeper cell or even scum (who didn't intend to claim until he knew he hit third). Overall, draz, you are a perfect day 1 lynch. At worst (in case you weren't bullshitting), we lose a third party who wants to kill a townie and looks for items, which is still OK from town perspective. At best, me nail a lanch at scum or sleeper. Sounds like a plan to me. ##vote Drazerk Except for the fact I can't kill for a while and you will be controlling the kill while I wait for scum to kill gandalf for me? | ||
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