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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 11:17 GMT
#421
Ehh as mentioned im really busy with some stuff today so I cant post much =/

Will read thread tomorrow when i get back
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 17 2012 11:33 GMT
#422
Morning everyone. Still reading through, but this stuck out to me:

On March 17 2012 10:21 MidnightGladius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 10:19 Drazerk wrote:
I know he is the same as me or a DT.

Either way I am certain he is not scum and so gets my vote and I want you to vote for him.


If that is the case, and we end up having to deal with renegade Wheatley, we'll be losing a PR. Why not elect a vanilla town like me, instead?


I seriously doubt you're a VT. History dictates that everyone has a power in this game, so either you're lying or you have a crapload of items.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 17 2012 11:33 GMT
#423
EBWOP: When I say VT, I meant Vanilla Townie...only just hit me that it also means vet
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 11:40 GMT
#424
Actually screw it I have some time to take a quick read now.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 11:49 GMT
#425
wow town seems out of control.

Kenpachi jumps into the thread and just randomly announce that all of us will win if we vote Glados and people actually consider doing that? are you kidding?

also, drazerk claims kill, item use. then randomly votes for somebody. Now his wincon has changed. This is just too much to bear.

People need to stop trusting both of them. We should treat this wheatley vote very delicately and I'd rather not give it to a stronger player who would abuse the might later on. I want you all to ask yourself, if you could deal with an overpowered version of the person you voted as an enemy. If not, don't vote him. Blz is prolly a wrong choice here, from what I've seen.

on a different note: this post here is so bad, I wanted to rip my eyes of.

On March 17 2012 11:07 gonzaw wrote:
Right, first things first:

I believe Drazerk is town. Mostly because of this:

-His shot right at the start of the day. I doubt a scum would do that, it would put TREMENDOUS pressure on him right off the bat
-His whole "I know Veli is town, because of bla bla bla", and not have Veli state otherwise, which means it's likely they are both town or they are both scum. I'd want Velinath to confirm that Drazerk isn't speaking bullshit though.
-Using an item on Wiggles. If he tells the truth, then I doubt scum would throw away an item like that, they would probably keep it, at least for some more time.
-He seems to have a lot of activity by this point, and considering 20 or so players are all inactive, I don't see why he would need to do so if he were scum (it would be easier for him to just lurk a little bit).


Have you played mafia at all? Really?

a) No, wrong. The shot early at the start of the day actually removes pressure, because he doesn't need to justify his hsot with post. He doesn't need to tell us why he shot. because VE hasn't posted,yet. That's exactly what scum would do.
b) NOoooooO, scum buddy all the time and call townies town and scum scum. That's what you do. It's ridiculous to just say "hey he called that one town, so they share an alignment".
c) You don't even know if that's true or if the items are one time use. You also don't know what item it was. You don't know shit, how is this a towntell.
d) It's easier to lurk, but lurkers die at some point. Stronger scum players talk alll the time. Activity should not be an indication for town / not town. At least not when judging more experienced players.

this is not to show that draz is scum, it's to show had bad gonzaw's reasoning is. No arguement was valid. It hurts my eyes.

Now get your shit together and vote someone, you can actually defeat. And don't vote Glados just because one person claims it's good for town.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 12:10 GMT
#426
Alright so I took a quick look at the thread.

I dont like how quickly Drazek shot VE, but it hit scum (or "3rd party") so w/e. I dont trust him though, especially considering his wincon changed. Care to claim your previous and current wincon than?

I dont like MG's and Grackoni's VT claims, since this is a highly themed setup and its quite possible that VT doesnt exsist. Anyway, even if you really are a VT, why claim it? Serves no purpose for town and allows mafia to bluesnipe better.

I need to take a closer look at the thread to see who I wish to elect, which I will do tomorrow. Honestly I dont really like most of the candidates for now.

Another thing. I have never played with sleeper cells before, and they seem rather interesting to me. Considering that they cant communicate, does this mean that we cannot utilize link between members of the sleeper cell to nab them, or will they be given some sort of way to recognise each other?
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 12:11 GMT
#427
EBWOP:
Another thing. I have never played with sleeper cells before, and they seem rather interesting to me. Considering that they cant communicate, does this mean that we cannot utilize links between members of the sleeper cell to nab them, or will they be given some sort of way to recognise each other?


typo
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 12:34 GMT
#428
On March 17 2012 18:09 Drazerk wrote:
My win con has changed - Velinath for Wheatley is now a horrific thing and we must not let it happen.

Also I now need an item so if you give me one I will love you forever.


Why do we care if YOU win? If your wincon has changed and that alone makes Velinath Wheatley horrible, why is it horrible for town too? Seems like your very own problem and not towns?

And why should we give you items.

Your whole reasoning doesn't make sense. You just push your own agenda.


to others awake right now: I agree, the VT claims are not a good thing. But so is saying "I believe everyone has a power", because it softclaims blue. We should stop discussing role stuff, it only helps scum at this point IMO.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 12:40 GMT
#429
I also think that GlaDOS is a fagget.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 17 2012 13:08 GMT
#430
Also, while Kenpachi is a bit crazy, this is an Aperture game. Killing Glados will probably be a good idea nonetheless. But at the same time, I have a feeling that Wheatley's power is linked to the death of Glados...

Either way, she's a bitch and it may be a good idea to kill her. When we do it, well I'd like some more information first.
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 13:12 GMT
#431
I claim balrog

I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game.

Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only

My attack is unblockable but I cannot discuss the limitations attached to it while my DT item can be used twice a cycle at day and night but it will only tell me if they are like me.

There are three other people like me and I am certain that vel is one of them especially since he knew the name of my role ( I know the names of the other roles so I am presuming they do as well )

I also presume I am going to die anyhow so bring it on Gandalf I have a bomb ready and waiting.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 13:16 GMT
#432
On March 17 2012 22:12 Drazerk wrote:
I claim balrog

I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game.

Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only

My attack is unblockable but I cannot discuss the limitations attached to it while my DT item can be used twice a cycle at day and night but it will only tell me if they are like me.

There are three other people like me and I am certain that vel is one of them especially since he knew the name of my role ( I know the names of the other roles so I am presuming they do as well )

I also presume I am going to die anyhow so bring it on Gandalf I have a bomb ready and waiting.


Why was your wincon suddenly changed?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 13:17 GMT
#433
On March 17 2012 22:16 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 22:12 Drazerk wrote:
I claim balrog

I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game.

Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only

My attack is unblockable but I cannot discuss the limitations attached to it while my DT item can be used twice a cycle at day and night but it will only tell me if they are like me.

There are three other people like me and I am certain that vel is one of them especially since he knew the name of my role ( I know the names of the other roles so I am presuming they do as well )

I also presume I am going to die anyhow so bring it on Gandalf I have a bomb ready and waiting.


Why was your wincon suddenly changed?


Inside joke with TL mafia mods. My role will always change if I play TL mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 13:20 GMT
#434
Oh kenpachi Ill make a deal with you -

Ill vote glados if you give me your item.

I will also shoot somebody you want me to.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
March 17 2012 13:28 GMT
#435
Jayjay, talk to me. How do you feel the game is going? And please explain why the hell there's a Celtic Guardian on the field....
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
March 17 2012 13:28 GMT
#436
drazerk. you explained your wincons and you believe ven is like you.

how was he a good vote target when you had to win with town and why is he a "horrible" target now? Isn't that contradicting itself?
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 13:30 GMT
#437
On March 17 2012 22:28 Jayjay54 wrote:
drazerk. you explained your wincons and you believe ven is like you.

how was he a good vote target when you had to win with town and why is he a "horrible" target now? Isn't that contradicting itself?


Because if I have to kill someone I presume they do as well before I was seeing us OP third party roles who helped the town out.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
March 17 2012 13:32 GMT
#438
On March 17 2012 14:57 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2012 14:39 Zephirdd wrote:
On March 17 2012 14:35 sinani206 wrote:
Nice shot, Drazerk.

On to business.
I move we wait on the Kenpachi thing until we see if anyone else relates to the whole GLaDOS thing.
I would be willing to do what Kenpachi says if we can get some more information.
Also, I want to give Wheatley to Drazerk, as he is pretty much confirmed town.
(BTW mods, it's spelled Wheatley)
And Zephirdd is looking pretty scummy right now.


>agrees with my train of thought and then calls me scum
>wants to leave the "mayor" role to the one person that said he didnt want it; plus the one person that did a very very questionable move shooting someone 1 hour into the day(even though he gave decent reasoning)

You're fine sinani.


OK first of all you're scum.

Second of all, you're contradicting yourself by saying that he gave decent reasoning. It was a good shot and he almost definitely wouldn't have shot that early as scum and then claimed.


It was not a good shot. It was a fucking 1hour-into-the-day shot. It was a lucky shot. As pointed by someone, he only claimed after the flip; I doubt he'd have claimed if VE had flipped vanilla town.

It was a decent reasoning from him however; Not good, not great, only decent. That makes him null at best in my eyes.

And no, I'm not scum. Get over it.

On March 17 2012 22:12 Drazerk wrote:
I claim balrog

I have to get 5 items to win the game and kill Gandalf When my win condition is met I leave the game.

Old win condition was to just survive to the end with town only

My attack is unblockable but I cannot discuss the limitations attached to it while my DT item can be used twice a cycle at day and night but it will only tell me if they are like me.

There are three other people like me and I am certain that vel is one of them especially since he knew the name of my role ( I know the names of the other roles so I am presuming they do as well )

I also presume I am going to die anyhow so bring it on Gandalf I have a bomb ready and waiting.


So, why should we leave you alive again? You're a dayvig willing to snipe the head of anyone without caring about what they do, and the only thing you serve is to find items and basically remove them from the game. Also, we don't know if Gandalf is a town aligned role or not.

Consider this is day 1. We don't have better lynch targets(although sinani is tempting). Why are you still alive again?

I'm also tempted at helping Kenpachi. He sounds normal asshole Kenpachi from Steamship(my only game with him). Blazinghand sounds like standard BH as well.

For now;
##Vote: Drazerk
##Vote: GlaDOS

tbh I don't have any good candidate so far. Considering voting wiggles or BH.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
March 17 2012 13:32 GMT
#439
So basically you believe that Vel is "same" as you since you guys know each others role names. I assume that you havent checked him yet and this is simply a guess since he guessed/knew your role name?

Either way I dont think its a good idea to elect vel as wheatly since it seems like he is either third party or made a random guess and got Drazerk's role right, and I would much rather Wheatly go to someone more likely to be town. I dont know who this person is yet, need to reread.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 17 2012 13:33 GMT
#440
Hunt scum not third party. You gain nothing from my death.
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