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On October 10 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +“Is he kidding me he says Protoss is the strongest race? lololololol Stephano you should go play Protoss lolololol” Did he really say that? -.-;
No he did not. MC misunderstood his answer (or incontrol led him to minsunderstanding it). He said that to the question (which race is the best? ) he thought zerg players would answer zerg, terran players would answer terran and protoss players would answer protoss.
It's a refreshing take on balance, I think, but the protoss players didn't agree :D
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On October 10 2011 21:13 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 21:07 ronpaul012 wrote: I think that his zvt and zvp will be tough to top. However now that his zvz strategy is out there (early blings, delayed nat, but really quick 3rd) I'm interested what others do to beat him. Not sure if there's a way, but I'll definitely pay more attention. I think that Dimaga is the zerg is has the most troubles playing against. He lost two (and probably more but recently two times) bo5 against him 2-3, Stephano seemed to have more multitask but less experience in ZvZ than him
but dimaga also stated that when he started to train with stephano he got depressed from seeing someone THAT good (ofc, dima is always kidding etc) but i think that between these 2 they both agree that stephano is the better player, but when it comes to tournaments, other stuff come into play and dima has a good overall chance to win, also 3-2 wins can really go either way, it's nothing that matters too much.
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A lot of respect for Stephano. I think he should get his ass to Korea or earn a Code S spot through MLG.
Stephano’s skill right now…. it’s over the level of Nestea. Perfect defense and completely understanding the situation and decision making… I don’t know about the other games, but if we just judge it from this match, he’s the best
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Stephano wasn't talking about balance when he said what he said. He thought "best" meant likeability and player preference.
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On October 10 2011 21:25 WArped wrote:A lot of respect for Stephano. I think he should get his ass to Korea or earn a Code S spot through MLG. Show nested quote +Stephano’s skill right now…. it’s over the level of Nestea. Perfect defense and completely understanding the situation and decision making… I don’t know about the other games, but if we just judge it from this match, he’s the best
lol Remember that the Koreans posting these comments are the same as TLers, just in a different language.
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“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
This one is just perfect and it sums up exactly what I felt all tournament.
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On October 10 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +“Is he kidding me he says Protoss is the strongest race? lololololol Stephano you should go play Protoss lolololol” Did he really say that? -.-; He meant that every player probably picked the race they though was better, but incontrol sort of misinterpreted it.
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On October 10 2011 21:40 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:“Is he kidding me he says Protoss is the strongest race? lololololol Stephano you should go play Protoss lolololol” Did he really say that? -.-; He meant that every player probably picked the race they though was better, but incontrol sort of misinterpreted it.
Incontroll successful!
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On October 10 2011 21:07 ronpaul012 wrote: I think that his zvt and zvp will be tough to top. However now that his zvz strategy is out there (early blings, delayed nat, but really quick 3rd) I'm interested what others do to beat him. Not sure if there's a way, but I'll definitely pay more attention.
You are kidding right? In all four games against lucky he used different openings, therefore there is nothing to figure out. In 2 games he went for buildorders regardless of what his opponent was doing, and in the other 2 games he chose his opening reactively, and in one of them he even forced his opponent to go down a worse buildorder than his own by blocking his expansion. These kind of players are the scariest, because you cant predict what they are doing.
Even in the first game, where he went for early ling/bling agression, he attacked reactively. When there were alot of lings out for lucky, he made a bunch of blings. After he killed off all the lings of lucky and only queens and spines were left over, he stopped bling production and went for pure ling agression for quite some time. A minute or two later, lucky started to catch up on the ling count (but had lost like 2 spines and 2 queens against mass lings), and stephano immediately produced the next round of blings to finish those zerglings off aswell.
Your claim that he has a strategy of going early bling agression into delayed nat but early third, you cant be serious... That happened in 1 game and 1 game only. Watch his stream a little and you will see he stomps pretty much every zerg in eu, including nerchio (who is said to have incredible zvz), with countless different strategies.
Nerchio even streamsniped stephano twice in a row in order to break his winning streak, and lost twice.
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wow fucking props to stephano!!! he looked SOOOO good in this tournament
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and i always thought everyone thinks his race is the worst o_O
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On October 10 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
This is a beautiful quote
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On October 10 2011 21:58 bbm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
This is a beautiful quote
That happened in particular during that last game of the finals when Stephano got that super early third and lucky pushed with something like 5 times the number of roaches then Stephano. I can't wrap my head around how he held that. I was listening to day9 at the same time and he just laughed and said he didn't understand.
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On October 10 2011 22:06 NeonFox wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 21:58 bbm wrote:On October 10 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
This is a beautiful quote That happened in particular during that last game of the finals when Stephano got that super early third and lucky pushed with something like 5 times the number of roaches then Stephano. I can't wrap my head around how he held that. I was listening to day9 at the same time and he just laughed and said he didn't understand. Yeah I didn't understand it at all either, stephano did very heavy ling/bane pressure which failed completely cause lucky had roaches out.
His response -> take a 3rd.
Then he somehow held off a ridiculous amount of roaches and steamrolled lucky with a counter. I just didn't get it at all, just godlike play.
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He didn't say protoss was the strongest race lol, he said he thought it was zerg and everyone who plays a race thinks theirs is the strongest, then he said "protoss to MC" thinking MC would say protoss, and MC said " you think protoss is strongest race, you stoopid". or something along those lines..
Gratz to the pink power ranger though, his play last night was perfect, if that was the GSL, we would have a new champion, I just hope he can keep it up and win it all! GL Stephano!
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Didn't Stephano also says he chose Zerg because they are similar to Humans from WC3? And Humans were not doing so well in WC3 if I can remember correctly.
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The word kimchiman all over the place lol
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Stephano didn't say Protoss was the best race. He said that "I think the answer is obvious, I play Zerg so I think zerg is the best race, Terrans think Terran is the best race, Protoss thinks Protoss is the best race." I'm not sure he entirely understood the question .
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On October 10 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:Show nested quote +“Is he kidding me he says Protoss is the strongest race? lololololol Stephano you should go play Protoss lolololol” Did he really say that? -.-;
No, when asked what race he thinks is best he said "well, i guess we'll all say our own race, i'd say zerg, select would say terran and MC and incontrol would say protoss". Thing is he sayed that quite quietly and everybody just heard protoss, especially because he asked MC "you think it's Protoss right ?" and then everybody was like "WUUUUUUT YOU THINK PROTOSS IS THE BEST?????"
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On October 10 2011 22:53 Marou wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 20:30 Sated wrote:“Is he kidding me he says Protoss is the strongest race? lololololol Stephano you should go play Protoss lolololol” Did he really say that? -.-; No, when asked what race he thinks is best he said "well, i guess we'll all say our own race, i'd say zerg, select would say terran and MC and incontrol would say protoss". Thing is he sayed that quite quietly and everybody just heard protoss, especially because he asked MC "you think it's Protoss right ?" and then everybody was like "WUUUUUUT YOU THINK PROTOSS IS THE BEST?????"
Yeah, he wasn't talking about best as in regards to the balance of the game.
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