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Imagine Stephano beating Nestea in ZvZ. Just do it.
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tarotis .. like dimaga did to nestea months ago? and didnt dimaga beat mvp..
just sayin..
if u want a korean killin zerg.. send dimaga.
congrats to stephano for kickin korean ass!. im glad the koreans like him to,.
he quoted dimaga in one of his recent interviews as inspirational? i think.,
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Okay I did. Now I'm angry.
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Slightly off-topic:
Are there any netizen reactions to the Kiwikaki vs. Stephano game?
(Tried searching. Didn't come up with anything.)
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On October 11 2011 06:29 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 05:08 Talin wrote:On October 11 2011 04:48 Holograms wrote:On October 11 2011 04:06 CarelessPride wrote:
stephanio beat kiwikaki, violet, inori, thestc and lucky...
kiwikaki - he's not the best even by NA standards
violet- someone who WAS in code S now sucks i hate the fact they keep calling him code S player
inori - took out 2 great players who i think wouldve beat stephanio in pvp
thestc - the guy who already said hes bad at tvz
lucky- the guy who cheesed his way through terrans and played a horrible zvz
not to take aanything away but if he faced unknown players who were bad at zerg match up
if he played ryung/MMA/mc/puma then hes proven something
until then i think i proved he had it easy According to this, Stephano has beat MMA and even Boxer before. Let's have the full list here, it's rather... informative. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky Yeah post his losses in there...you could go to TLPD and post any player's wins only and make them look unbeatable.
If you took the time to look at the link I posted you would know that this is his IPL Qualifiers results. But like Asha said, he did go 1-4 to Alive.
Still, he's been pretty dominating lately.
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its so funny how the kimichiman meme began in korean sc 2 forums with koreans (wrongly) saying that foreigners call them kimchiman and foreigners finding out about koreans calling themselves that now,
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On October 11 2011 07:03 farnham wrote:
its so funny how the kimichiman meme began in korean sc 2 forums with koreans (wrongly) saying that foreigners call them kimchiman and foreigners finding out about koreans calling themselves that now,
Honestly how are they supposed to refer to their own players? koreans/us gets boring. We got foreigners, white guys and nationalities.
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I honestly do feel like Stephano is a savior... Anyone else?
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On October 11 2011 06:29 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 05:08 Talin wrote:On October 11 2011 04:48 Holograms wrote:On October 11 2011 04:06 CarelessPride wrote:
stephanio beat kiwikaki, violet, inori, thestc and lucky...
kiwikaki - he's not the best even by NA standards
violet- someone who WAS in code S now sucks i hate the fact they keep calling him code S player
inori - took out 2 great players who i think wouldve beat stephanio in pvp
thestc - the guy who already said hes bad at tvz
lucky- the guy who cheesed his way through terrans and played a horrible zvz
not to take aanything away but if he faced unknown players who were bad at zerg match up
if he played ryung/MMA/mc/puma then hes proven something
until then i think i proved he had it easy According to this, Stephano has beat MMA and even Boxer before. Let's have the full list here, it's rather... informative. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky Yeah post his losses in there...you could go to TLPD and post any player's wins only and make them look unbeatable.
Do you really have to have a 100% series win ratio to look super ultra good ?
It's still 10-2 in *series* against KOREANS in the qualis+tournament. Name one other european player who can show that kind of record. 3-0 vs P, 3-0 vs Z, 4-2 vs T.
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On October 11 2011 07:14 Dalguno wrote:
I honestly do feel like Stephano is a savior... Anyone else?
I will if he starts losing ;D
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On October 10 2011 20:14 Probe1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah I did it on purpose.
Edit: Probes are terrible people.
Edit2: I should probably not sound like a total dick. I would rather people who would otherwise have missed it read this stuff and enjoy than respect Milkis disclaimer. If he is offended by the thread and wishes to open his own it will be no issue for him to close this one and open his own. + Show Spoiler + I couldn't very well make a thread with a link to his without the OP being extremely weak and felt it was alright to copy and paste with credit.
Obviously if he does not approve I apologize and the thread will be immediately closed :\
Until then, just try to enjoy nice things? :3
How about you respect Milkis' hard work instead and reward him with a little pageviews, I think he has done enough for the community to deserve it. And don't interpret his lack of reaction (because he's too much of a nice guy to bother with people like you) as a silent approval of your smug disregard for his clearly expressed wishes.
Blatantly appropriating his work and then carelessly apologizing doesn't make it any better.
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there's not alot of commenters on playxp. Seems like they have a small community for sc2
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I believe Stephano's ZvT style is the next step in the zerg metagame. I've always thought Ultras to be terrifying against tank lines and his style shows the most logical transitions and play for it. It's superior to some other builds that the Korean zergs are using now like DRG's muta / ultra against Supernova. The infested terrans for drawing siege tank fire is the silver lining in it and makes it even more potent. I love how he gets armor upgrades quickly in the beginning as well, which I think is what makes it less risky against hellion/thor builds since it doesn't commit him to zergling through midgame.
It's great to see how Koreans are loving his play, maybe they'll pick up his style now too. ^^
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On October 11 2011 07:27 qyk05328 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 20:14 Probe1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah I did it on purpose.
Edit: Probes are terrible people.
Edit2: I should probably not sound like a total dick. I would rather people who would otherwise have missed it read this stuff and enjoy than respect Milkis disclaimer. If he is offended by the thread and wishes to open his own it will be no issue for him to close this one and open his own. + Show Spoiler + I couldn't very well make a thread with a link to his without the OP being extremely weak and felt it was alright to copy and paste with credit.
Obviously if he does not approve I apologize and the thread will be immediately closed :\
Until then, just try to enjoy nice things? :3 How about you respect Milkis' hard work instead and reward him with a little pageviews, I think he has done enough for the community to deserve it. And don't interpret his lack of reaction (because he's too much of a nice guy to bother with people like you) as a silent approval of your smug disregard for his clearly expressed wishes. Blatantly appropriating his work and then carelessly apologizing doesn't make it any better.
Did Milkis actually say that he doesn't like people doing this on TL?
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On October 11 2011 07:24 Nouar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 06:29 DystopiaX wrote:On October 11 2011 05:08 Talin wrote:On October 11 2011 04:48 Holograms wrote:On October 11 2011 04:06 CarelessPride wrote:
stephanio beat kiwikaki, violet, inori, thestc and lucky...
kiwikaki - he's not the best even by NA standards
violet- someone who WAS in code S now sucks i hate the fact they keep calling him code S player
inori - took out 2 great players who i think wouldve beat stephanio in pvp
thestc - the guy who already said hes bad at tvz
lucky- the guy who cheesed his way through terrans and played a horrible zvz
not to take aanything away but if he faced unknown players who were bad at zerg match up
if he played ryung/MMA/mc/puma then hes proven something
until then i think i proved he had it easy According to this, Stephano has beat MMA and even Boxer before. Let's have the full list here, it's rather... informative. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky Yeah post his losses in there...you could go to TLPD and post any player's wins only and make them look unbeatable. Do you really have to have a 100% series win ratio to look super ultra good ? It's still 10-2 in *series* against KOREANS in the qualis+tournament. Name one other european player who can show that kind of record. 3-0 vs P, 3-0 vs Z, 4-2 vs T.
Its not about saying he is not ultra good.
its about giving false or in this case incomplete information.
if this person just added those losses in there this would be quoted rather in the good sense compared to now "hey you forgot the losses" so in a way it backfired.
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On October 11 2011 05:20 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 00:44 Aocowns wrote:“Stephano’s skill right now…. it’s over the level of Nestea. Perfect defense and completely understanding the situation and decision making… I don’t know about the other games, but if we just judge it from this match, he’s the best. (Stephano vs stC)” You can't really judge from that match, as StC is kind of bad by Korean standard :s Idra rolled him just as hard, and Idra has(imho) a better late game than Stephano, but Stephano plays a much safer early game. Stephano has the potential to be the best zerg, but as of now it is still Nestea...by pretty far too Since when is TheSTC considered bad by any standards? He's been at code A level since the beta.
Ehh, he's pretty bad as far as Koreans go. He was from a time early on in GSL when everyone (especially terrans) cheesed and all-inned every game. Since then he went into the military and hasn't changed his playstyle much. I have yet to see him win a game that wasn't either a full all-in, cheese, or some form of exact timing attack. He doesn't have the ability to adapt and play well on the same level as say MVP, MMA, MKP, or any number of good Korean terrans.
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On October 11 2011 07:32 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 07:24 Nouar wrote:On October 11 2011 06:29 DystopiaX wrote:On October 11 2011 05:08 Talin wrote:On October 11 2011 04:48 Holograms wrote:On October 11 2011 04:06 CarelessPride wrote:
stephanio beat kiwikaki, violet, inori, thestc and lucky...
kiwikaki - he's not the best even by NA standards
violet- someone who WAS in code S now sucks i hate the fact they keep calling him code S player
inori - took out 2 great players who i think wouldve beat stephanio in pvp
thestc - the guy who already said hes bad at tvz
lucky- the guy who cheesed his way through terrans and played a horrible zvz
not to take aanything away but if he faced unknown players who were bad at zerg match up
if he played ryung/MMA/mc/puma then hes proven something
until then i think i proved he had it easy According to this, Stephano has beat MMA and even Boxer before. Let's have the full list here, it's rather... informative. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky Yeah post his losses in there...you could go to TLPD and post any player's wins only and make them look unbeatable. Do you really have to have a 100% series win ratio to look super ultra good ? It's still 10-2 in *series* against KOREANS in the qualis+tournament. Name one other european player who can show that kind of record. 3-0 vs P, 3-0 vs Z, 4-2 vs T. Its not about saying he is not ultra good. its about giving false or in this case incomplete information. if this person just added those losses in there this would be quoted rather in the good sense compared to now "hey you forgot the losses" so in a way it backfired.
Also because people have been saying Stephano is as good or even better than most Koreans, and if you add those losses in there (not just from IPL) then he does look like he can compete with Koreans, but not clearly better than them.
Also as others have said I wonder if the Koreans not doing well against him is due to a lack of knowledge about his playstyle? Cause with IdrA most of the Koreans were cheesing/metagaming him/reacting to his style, and against Stephano they didn't appear to do the same. Would be interesting to see if he continues to do as well, in Korea and in foreign tourneys with Koreans, now that he's "on their map" so to speak.
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On October 11 2011 07:30 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 07:27 qyk05328 wrote:On October 10 2011 20:14 Probe1 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah I did it on purpose.
Edit: Probes are terrible people.
Edit2: I should probably not sound like a total dick. I would rather people who would otherwise have missed it read this stuff and enjoy than respect Milkis disclaimer. If he is offended by the thread and wishes to open his own it will be no issue for him to close this one and open his own. + Show Spoiler + I couldn't very well make a thread with a link to his without the OP being extremely weak and felt it was alright to copy and paste with credit.
Obviously if he does not approve I apologize and the thread will be immediately closed :\
Until then, just try to enjoy nice things? :3 How about you respect Milkis' hard work instead and reward him with a little pageviews, I think he has done enough for the community to deserve it. And don't interpret his lack of reaction (because he's too much of a nice guy to bother with people like you) as a silent approval of your smug disregard for his clearly expressed wishes. Blatantly appropriating his work and then carelessly apologizing doesn't make it any better. Did Milkis actually say that he doesn't like people doing this on TL?
Yes he did, as you would have seen if you visited his page. Which apparently you didn't because the whole thing has been copypasted here.
Please do not take anything on this blog to post on any website. Please quote only a small section (a paragraph at most) at a time. Do not copy and paste the entire article.
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I think Stephanos success right now is partially due to his opponents not having played against that style of play, and they couldn't adapt quickly enough to beat him. Now that his style is well known I think the korean terrans will figure it out, something that aLive might already have done.
Still an amazing run by Stephano and I hope he can keep it up.
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On October 11 2011 07:36 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 07:32 Assirra wrote:On October 11 2011 07:24 Nouar wrote:On October 11 2011 06:29 DystopiaX wrote:On October 11 2011 05:08 Talin wrote:On October 11 2011 04:48 Holograms wrote:On October 11 2011 04:06 CarelessPride wrote:
stephanio beat kiwikaki, violet, inori, thestc and lucky...
kiwikaki - he's not the best even by NA standards
violet- someone who WAS in code S now sucks i hate the fact they keep calling him code S player
inori - took out 2 great players who i think wouldve beat stephanio in pvp
thestc - the guy who already said hes bad at tvz
lucky- the guy who cheesed his way through terrans and played a horrible zvz
not to take aanything away but if he faced unknown players who were bad at zerg match up
if he played ryung/MMA/mc/puma then hes proven something
until then i think i proved he had it easy According to this, Stephano has beat MMA and even Boxer before. Let's have the full list here, it's rather... informative. Stephano 2-0 Anypro Stephano 2-1 Axslav Stephano 2-1 MarineKing Stephano 2-1 Socke Stephano 2-1 Revival Stephano 2-0 Puzzle Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-1 MMA Stephano 2-0 Huk Stephano 2-0 Boxer Stephano 2-1 KiWiKaKi Stephano 2-0 Violet Stephano 2-1 Inori Stephano 3-1 TheStC Stephano 4-0 Lucky Yeah post his losses in there...you could go to TLPD and post any player's wins only and make them look unbeatable. Do you really have to have a 100% series win ratio to look super ultra good ? It's still 10-2 in *series* against KOREANS in the qualis+tournament. Name one other european player who can show that kind of record. 3-0 vs P, 3-0 vs Z, 4-2 vs T. Its not about saying he is not ultra good. its about giving false or in this case incomplete information. if this person just added those losses in there this would be quoted rather in the good sense compared to now "hey you forgot the losses" so in a way it backfired. Also because people have been saying Stephano is as good or even better than most Koreans, and if you add those losses in there (not just from IPL) then he does look like he can compete with Koreans, but not clearly better than them. Also as others have said I wonder if the Koreans not doing well against him is due to a lack of knowledge about his playstyle? Cause with IdrA most of the Koreans were cheesing/metagaming him/reacting to his style, and against Stephano they didn't appear to do the same. Would be interesting to see if he continues to do as well, in Korea and in foreign tourneys with Koreans, now that he's "on their map" so to speak.
MMA told Stephano that he considers him top 5 foreigner more than a month ago:
http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/sc2-interview-de-stephano-stephano-revient-sur-sa-performance-du-week-end-50680
I guess it's safe to say some koreans already had him "on their map".
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