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On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games
this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world.
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"To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
pretty much the perfect definition of what happened
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On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Stephano beat MMA 2-1 in IPL 3 Q3 though.
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On October 11 2011 02:13 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Stephano beat MMA 2-1 in IPL 3 Q3 though.
online is a different beast alltogether tough, not to mention the fact that it was in the night for korea if i recall.
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On October 11 2011 02:23 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:13 figq wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Stephano beat MMA 2-1 in IPL 3 Q3 though. online is a different beast alltogether tough, not to mention the fact that it was in the night for korea if i recall.
It's not any difficult for a progamer to play at night lol. They're used to playing long hours so staying up a little bit longer wont matter either.
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On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world.
Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea.
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On October 11 2011 02:26 HoMM wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:23 Assirra wrote:On October 11 2011 02:13 figq wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Stephano beat MMA 2-1 in IPL 3 Q3 though. online is a different beast alltogether tough, not to mention the fact that it was in the night for korea if i recall. It's not any difficult for a progamer to play at night lol. They're used to playing long hours so staying up a little bit longer wont matter either.
I agree. But playing on LAN and playing in you comfy chair, with no audiance to spectators( almost ) is totally different.
Although, from what I saw from stephano i wouldn't be suprised if he beat MMA on LAN.
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On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea.
Lol.. gotta get into code A before you can get into code S... posts like these are solely responsible for the overhyping. Anyone who has followed the GSL since the earlier seasons will know that it is literally and figuratively a league of it's own.
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On October 11 2011 02:41 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea. Lol.. gotta get into code A before you can get into code S... posts like these are solely responsible for the overhyping. Anyone who has followed the GSL since the earlier seasons will know that it is literally and figuratively a league of it's own.
Dude he has a sick win rate against Koreans and he isn't playing full time. He can also get a code A invite via MLG which is perfectly possible really if he can achieve this with practising 3 hours on ladder I don't see how he can't do a lot better than he does already.
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On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea.
And how many times have we heard that by now? All these so called code S foreigner got stomped in code A.
I am not saying he won't make it to the up and downs but before he actually does it (not soon) you can't claim that.
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On October 11 2011 02:46 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:41 SupLilSon wrote:On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea. Lol.. gotta get into code A before you can get into code S... posts like these are solely responsible for the overhyping. Anyone who has followed the GSL since the earlier seasons will know that it is literally and figuratively a league of it's own. Dude he has a sick win rate against Koreans and he isn't playing full time. He can also get a code A invite via MLG which is perfectly possible really if he can achieve this with practising 3 hours on ladder I don't see how he can't do a lot better than he does already.
Ok, so let's see Stephano do these things before claiming he is going to win Code S. Like the guy above me said, all the past "great foreigner hopes" have been thoroughly unprepared even in code A. People quickly forget the past and just get swept up by the newest hype. Mark my words, a month from now there will be a new up and coming foreigner and people will be making the same crazy postulations about code S with nothing substantial to back it up.
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Did Stephano stayed this week in USA to play at MLG ?
If yes, with his current momentum I wouldn't be surprised if he goes very far in MLG too 
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“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
This sums it up perfectly for me aswell. Sometimes he just wins the game and I'm left standing like "How the hell did he do that?".
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I think people missunderstood Stephano when he said that "protoss was the best race", that's not rly what he was trying to say : D
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On October 11 2011 02:48 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea. And how many times have we heard that by now? All these so called code S foreigner got stomped in code A. I am not saying he won't make it to the up and downs but before he actually does it (not soon) you can't claim that.
They all played more than Stephano, didn't win a tournament with this amount of Koreans in it and didn't have such a good ratio against Koreans. Besides people like Naniwa and Thorzain haven't been in Korea very long.
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On October 11 2011 02:06 beachbeachy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 01:59 jj33 wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games Agreed. The only overhyping that was made was made by a select few of the people hyping stephano at all. "Stephano, new bonjwa" "Stephano, best player in the world" What you CAN'T DENY (I'll say it again - CAN'T DENY) is that stephano played far better than the players that he beat. If you haven't been around the game long, or are stuck in a lower league, your analytical skills might be distorted. However, just because some of you can't see how WELL he played, doesn't mean he's "overhyped".
Plenty of assumptions here by you.
Show me where I said Stephano is not good.
I am in masters who gets pitted vs GM players here and there. So another one of your assumptions completely off. Where did I say he didn't play well again?
thought so. On the contrary on my other posts, I said Stephano is clearly very talented and played well.
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On October 10 2011 19:55 Probe1 wrote:
“To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
“man it’d be really amusing if Stephano retires here. He’ll just go “I’m retiring as of this tournament. I will never forget.” And later on he’ll do an interview in the future going “Koreans? They weren’t anything special”“
“Stephano’s skill right now…. it’s over the level of Nestea. Perfect defense and completely understanding the situation and decision making… I don’t know about the other games, but if we just judge it from this match, he’s the best. (Stephano vs stC)”
Haha, these are great quotes.
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On October 11 2011 02:58 RvB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2011 02:48 Assirra wrote:On October 11 2011 02:27 RvB wrote:On October 11 2011 02:10 humbre wrote:On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote:On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote:
Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games this reminds me huk after homer cup, yes stephano is great but the overhyping is getting out of hand, im convinced that if Lucky didnt eliminate MMA, stephano would lose to him (like he did to alive), he still loses to EU players (mana, nerchio?), he had good run in one tournament but that doesnt make him best player on the world. Mana beat some Koreans and is really talented as well and Nerchio has good ZvZ. Besides even Flash loses sometimes and Stephano doesn't even practise full time yet. Sure he's getting a bit overhyped but it's certainly one of the top foreigners already and capable of getting code S and maybe even winning it if he went to Korea. And how many times have we heard that by now? All these so called code S foreigner got stomped in code A. I am not saying he won't make it to the up and downs but before he actually does it (not soon) you can't claim that. They all played more than Stephano, didn't win a tournament with this amount of Koreans in it and didn't have such a good ratio against Koreans. Besides people like Naniwa and Thorzain haven't been in Korea very long.
Uh... Thorzain and Naniwa were the finalist for TSL3, a tournament with much stiffer competition than IPL3. And as I and others have repeatedly tried to tell you, you can't simply compare Stephano to other foreigners and conjecture that he will be successful in Korea based off your personal opinion of his skill in relation to their's.
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Whenever a major event happens, does a Korean netizen come to Team Liquid, skim through the live report threads and then translates the interesting pieces to PlayXP?
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"To be honest I couldn’t even understand Stephano’s play. I just watched and suddenly Stephano is winning.”
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