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Ylrahc
France496 Posts
Besides, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the first time a "foreigner" take out four Koreans in a row to win a big tournament ? He steamrolled through IPL like Nestea or MVP would have, now let's see how he does against them  Then we will be able to compare. | ||
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eksert
France656 Posts
idra, i pity u  | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On October 11 2011 00:59 sixfour wrote: but civilised discussion about theoreticals is interesting. he was definitely a top 5 foreign zerg even before ipl (personally i had it as between him and sen for the best, now it's not close), but how many really dominant korean zergs are there? nestea obv, losira also obviously highly rated, same with DRG (although imo he's the most overrated player in the world right now), then who else? july? leenock? curious? check? zenio? All I'm saying is, an immense potential such as Stephano would still have trouble even qualifying for code A. It is just silly to compare the competition in IPL to any GSL season and thus, we really can't take this win (although very impressive) as any indication to how well he would do in code S. The Code S players are there because they are good as well as CONSISTENT against other code S quality players. | ||
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parano1d.
271 Posts
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:06 SupLilSon wrote: The Code S players are there because they are good as well as CONSISTENT against other code S quality players. really? you can run at 33% in code S winning one map per month and stay there forever | ||
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Aocowns
Norway6070 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:09 sixfour wrote: really? you can run at 33% in code S winning one map per month and stay there forever yeah, just like MC -.-' | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:09 sixfour wrote: really? you can run at 33% in code S winning one map per month and stay there forever Really? I'm pretty sure to get into code S you have to go through the notoriously impossible qualifiers, just to get into code A then you have to do well there before even getting a shot to get into code S. So yea, I'd say to get code S you have to be consistently winning. | ||
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HellionDrop
281 Posts
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EnSky
Philippines1003 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
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RudePlague
Great Britain113 Posts
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leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
I trust Stephano's skill and I really think he has proven that he has what it takes to keep this mommentum going, but let's not jump ahead of ourselves here. He still has a lot to prove. What if he wins MLG and get Code S seed? How would he perform on that kind of pressure? I tend to think that Code S is much more tense than IGN, so I am not sure how a 17yo would perform under that kind of ambient. Let's just wait before throwing the Bonjwa word out there. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:14 SupLilSon wrote: Really? I'm pretty sure to get into code S you have to go through the notoriously impossible qualifiers, just to get into code A then you have to do well there before even getting a shot to get into code S. So yea, I'd say to get code S you have to be consistently winning. He means once you are in code S you only have to win one game a month to stay in. A 1-2 record gets you 3rd place (in most cases) and that will keep you in code S with the new format. Match 1 you win 1-0 Winners match you lose 1-1 Final match you lose 1-2 losing both the first match and the losers match gets you out of code S in 4th, and winning both the first match and winners match gets you to ro16 2-0. Losing first match but winning losers match and final match gets you 2-1 and into the ro16 | ||
Poopi
France12930 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:28 figq wrote: Now I'm beginning (finally) to think that when MMA said to Stephano in chat (earlier, during some qualifier) that he considers him Top 3 zerg in the world, he really meant it, including Korea. Points for the Koreans for recognizing Stephano before he was fully recognized by all foreigners. Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games | ||
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Hiroruby
United States43 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:05 eksert wrote: stephano the first bonjwa.. idra, i pity u Stephano is an amazing player, who is showing great innovation. He also won a single major tournament, and should be congratulated. But those two things have never made any player a bonjwa; not now and not ever. For you to say that, I feel like my words will just be lost on you because you are simply looking to get a rise out of people. You have a high post count, and certainly have heard the criteria to become a bonjwa before. I truly want you to explain to me in what world you could categorically say that Stephano is favored at all times against players like MVP and Nestea. Calling him a bonjwa means that he is the clear favorite in any matchup and at any time. Do you truly believe that? | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote: Stephano asked "you mean foreigner", and MMA said "okok", which could be interpreted either way (agreement due to politeness, or confirmation that it's what he meant). He didn't specify at first.Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
On October 11 2011 01:48 Poopi wrote: Pretty sure he said foreigner. It's funny how people always overhype players after some tournament win or GSTL games Agreed. | ||
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Gotmog
Serbia899 Posts
From his pov, it makes sense. Idra and some other zergs are saying the same. | ||
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beachbeachy
United States509 Posts
The only overhyping that was made was made by a select few of the people hyping stephano at all. "Stephano, new bonjwa" "Stephano, best player in the world" What you CAN'T DENY (I'll say it again - CAN'T DENY) is that stephano played far better than the players that he beat. If you haven't been around the game long, or are stuck in a lower league, your analytical skills might be distorted. However, just because some of you can't see how WELL he played, doesn't mean he's "overhyped". | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
They both won a big tournament and showed some brilliant play during that. However, they haven't really faced S-class players consistently yet, so it is still to early to tell whether they really are on top of the (zerg-)world. But the both of them really look incredibly promising though. | ||
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