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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 18:17:57
June 24 2010 17:05 GMT
#1
Map preview: (727x719)
[image loading]
High quality image (1454x1438)

Players: 4
Size: 128x128

Money
Main: 8 mineral, 2 gas
Natural: 7 mineral, 2gas
3rd: 5 mineral, 1 gas
4th: 6 mineral, 2 gas

Concept
your main base is on low ground up in the corners then a ramp leads up to ur natural at high ground. the natural is attached to this long huge high ground area with 3 ramps out. 2 of them which leads out to the top down right left expoes and 1 large which leads out to the middle. ur 3rd base is low on money but kinda easy to defend, its located on the high ground between the large ramp and the farthest ramp from ur natural.

the middle is open and unbuildable on the tiles.

pretty straight forward macro oriented map with many flanking areas and strategical positions to cover to secure expansions.

Personal notes
remake of the original sc1 map byzantium. that map was awesome for sc1 and it can probably have high potential in sc2.

Image Links
Unbuildable middle
4th base with many entrences and high grass
Main base to natural

Line of sight blocker (los): in the choke between 4th base and the middle
Watch Tower: none
Destructible debris/rocks: none

Version 1.1
- made it visually easier to see ramps and high ground compared to low ground
- added some decoration and worked on the textures
- added heights

Download Map: no download available



Other maps:
Argutaris
Othello
Byzantium
City of Mengsk
Torrasque
Landscape
Black Rainbow
Gaia
Medusa
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 17:07:55
June 24 2010 17:07 GMT
#2
lol at the middle... i know it's other way round but... definately reminds me of smth
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
June 24 2010 17:08 GMT
#3
On June 25 2010 02:07 PredY wrote:
lol at the middle... i know it's other way round but... definately reminds me of smth

ye tried my best to avoid it, if its still too offensive ill gladly change it. im not a you know what :d
so what u think of the map besides that?^^
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
monkh
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 17:12:46
June 24 2010 17:10 GMT
#4
whys there a swastika in middle ?

wasn't there in original seems odd you would even add it :s
Daeden.620
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 24 2010 17:10 GMT
#5
I really hope it wont be a trend/standard to cut minerals down on expansions. Other than that it looks interesting. The middle will get the most OMFG posts but meh it is just a shape.
Brood War forever!
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 17:14:07
June 24 2010 17:12 GMT
#6
On June 25 2010 02:10 Kralic wrote:
I really hope it wont be a trend/standard to cut minerals down on expansions. Other than that it looks interesting. The middle will get the most OMFG posts but meh it is just a shape.

what u mean with trend to cut down minerals on expoes? it makes sense that main base has more money than the expansions, then expanding wont give twice a boost instead alittle less which is for the best. u get 200 psi so fast on 2base if u do blizzard style with 8 in both

ye i gotta change it lol, ill get on it later~
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
monitor
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2409 Posts
June 24 2010 17:14 GMT
#7
Looks awesome to play on! I'm confused because the overview picture is a different color than the perspective and middle picture? Would love to play it
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Monitor
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
June 24 2010 17:14 GMT
#8
Hey, nice Tibetan representation of eternity in the middle there.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
June 24 2010 17:16 GMT
#9
On June 25 2010 02:14 monitor wrote:
Looks awesome to play on! I'm confused because the overview picture is a different color than the perspective and middle picture? Would love to play it

ye when i take these zoomed in pictures i change the graphics to medium so it looks cooler xD while in main picture i want it to look more simple so u can see whats what
On June 25 2010 02:14 Seltsam wrote:
Hey, nice Tibetan representation of eternity in the middle there.

ok stop the hatin' i dont even know what that means :s already said ill change it
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
June 24 2010 17:18 GMT
#10
On June 25 2010 02:16 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 02:14 monitor wrote:
Looks awesome to play on! I'm confused because the overview picture is a different color than the perspective and middle picture? Would love to play it

ye when i take these zoomed in pictures i change the graphics to medium so it looks cooler xD while in main picture i want it to look more simple so u can see whats what
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 02:14 Seltsam wrote:
Hey, nice Tibetan representation of eternity in the middle there.

ok stop the hatin' i dont even know what that means :s already said ill change it


Ain't hatin'! The swastika was a religious symbol first, is all
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Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
June 24 2010 17:23 GMT
#11
nice hindu symbol of spiritual power!

joking aside, cool map.

could use a bit more asthetic diversity to sexy it up a bit, but looks like it will play well.
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
June 24 2010 17:23 GMT
#12
On June 25 2010 02:16 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 02:14 monitor wrote:
Looks awesome to play on! I'm confused because the overview picture is a different color than the perspective and middle picture? Would love to play it

ye when i take these zoomed in pictures i change the graphics to medium so it looks cooler xD while in main picture i want it to look more simple so u can see whats what
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 02:14 Seltsam wrote:
Hey, nice Tibetan representation of eternity in the middle there.

ok stop the hatin' i dont even know what that means :s already said ill change it


You don't have to change it because IT IS NOT a swastika (the nazi one), the nazi's swastika is in the other direction!
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
June 24 2010 17:35 GMT
#13
On June 25 2010 02:23 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2010 02:16 MorroW wrote:
On June 25 2010 02:14 monitor wrote:
Looks awesome to play on! I'm confused because the overview picture is a different color than the perspective and middle picture? Would love to play it

ye when i take these zoomed in pictures i change the graphics to medium so it looks cooler xD while in main picture i want it to look more simple so u can see whats what
On June 25 2010 02:14 Seltsam wrote:
Hey, nice Tibetan representation of eternity in the middle there.

ok stop the hatin' i dont even know what that means :s already said ill change it


You don't have to change it because IT IS NOT a swastika (the nazi one), the nazi's swastika is in the other direction!

yes but u saw how crazy ppl got even tho it wasnt, i just dont wanna ppl to get the wrong idea no matter where they get it from. even i didnt think this was so far-fetched

anyhow updated now and maybe i can get some real comments about the map plz
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Scorpius
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden36 Posts
June 24 2010 17:38 GMT
#14
Yeah Hella nice cant wait to play this! btw according to Gosugamers.net you are top 5 in ther rank list of top players of the world in starcraft 2 if you are this person why were you not in the EU vs Asia games?? white your skills maybe EU could even it out the score
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 17:55:59
June 24 2010 17:52 GMT
#15
On June 25 2010 02:35 MorroW wrote:

yes but u saw how crazy ppl got even tho it wasnt, i just dont wanna ppl to get the wrong idea no matter where they get it from. even i didnt think this was so far-fetched

anyhow updated now and maybe i can get some real comments about the map plz


No matter what you do people will always try and find a fault in it. Just leave it how it is. Let idiots be idiots

Anyway really nice map. I'm not exactly sure but I think the screenshot has cut off the edges of the map?
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
June 24 2010 18:03 GMT
#16
Good to see that change, but now all I see is a resemblance to the KKK symbol in the middle.
Brood War forever!
Balor
Profile Joined April 2010
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 18:10:21
June 24 2010 18:09 GMT
#17
Theres gonna be sooo many proxy's near the fourth base....

edit: really like it tho =)
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
June 24 2010 18:17 GMT
#18
http://www.panschk.de/mappage/forum/showthread?subforum=offtopic&threadid=960 Keep up the good work Morrow!

But ugh, why'd you have to remake this map? Wish it died with bw.
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Madsquare
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 20:32:46
June 24 2010 19:13 GMT
#19
warning: im super selfconfident in my following advise. dont take me too serious if you feel offended.

the concept looks good, as expected from an ex-pro-ish map.

what i noticed:
-the 3rd (islandish expo) looks harder to hold than on the original. try to change the chokes. or you cant take it unless you have full map control.

- it looks super hasty done. how long did you work on it? a day?
*those plants and stuff look distracting and misplaced to me.
*texturing could use some improvement too looks like 'ill have the base textur, put some other texture over it and then use blur abit.

- the brushes seem somewhat unfamiliar when compared to the original.
you just copied the rough concept.
that can possibly work, but its very likely that it turns out worse than it could be if you put more time into it.
*it makes a huge difference if you place a cliff 2 squares further or closer, or what the shape is, think of unit ranges

- the descenting mineral patches is a bad thing imo. us spectators want to see fast paced action on multiple spots at best. low ressource bases do not contribute to this.
expos shouldnt have less than 7 patches


- about the nazi symbol thing, just give a damn. its fine. as long its nothing illegal you can put on your map whatever you want. also picture-google 'peacoat', wich have been very popular lately, as far i know, and then 'SS uniform'. notice something?
spoiler: design copied.


-------------------
Advice:

1) put more time into your map.

altough its not the most important, you want to make it somewhat appealing. it shouldnt be confusing and distracting. clean layout, environment placed at the right points. always take a look at the map and ask yourself: would i like to play on it? is it ok to assume other would like to play on it?

2) think about it.

think about all possibilities for everything you do, could do, or not do. then think wich of these in what combination would be fun to play and more important fun to watch. the result is the concept of a high level melee map.


greetings, madsquare.
I do not obey any norms. I redefine standard with every thought I make.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 19:34:30
June 24 2010 19:33 GMT
#20
yes, i didnt take long time into this map, mind you its the very first version of it
im a competitive gamer and i know that 1 square here or there can be huge

id very much like to play at this map, as u can see all the decoration is mostly towards the edges of cliffs. if u dont have much decoration around the cliffs its hard to even see them

i like the textures and the looks of it, its just a simple personal opinion u have right there so no i wont change the textures because they are just fine. overall kept it darker towards the edges so players have easier time seeing where the edges come. if i got time to spend on this less important things such as textures then sure i might do that but dont think my map got worse textures than most maps out there, its better than most in fact

much of the trees etc on the cliff sides r just there to give the players a clear idea of what is walkable and not, if u simply remove this and it looks empty they come with their dropship and finds out they cant drop on the cliff edges

about the minerals. u simply cant come here in beta phase and tell mapmakers how many minerals each expansion should have. as a gamer i know that players lack gas in overall. just because dustin browder likes to put 8 minerals on every single base he makes doesnt mean hes right

i think your very off on most things you said but i agree the 4th bases are harder to defend here , it does look different. i will try to change this in the next update
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
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