Tips for Tasteless' Obsing - Page 3

On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote:
The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them!

Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries.

On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote:
The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them!

Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries.

On September 10 2010 07:35 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
I hope to see them use the production tab more, I know I talked to Artosis about it. It is the most useful tab really out of all of them. APM is cool to switch to here or there to take care of peoples obsession with APM. Income is great for showing how ahead/behind someone is.

Production ftw.

On September 10 2010 07:48 Vei wrote:

This is good advice.

I haven't got the chance to watch their casting of GOM (link anyone lol =p?), but your complaints are the OPPOSITE of what I complained when I watched HD/Husky cast back in beta. They'd spend so much time just afking on the army that you'd miss tech/macro, unless they had the production tab open. I much prefer the quick/ADD-ness of going all over the map to show you EVERYTHING, perhaps in part because I do indeed have ADD :D and perhaps in other part because as a mid-diamond level player I can easily keep up with the jerkyness and am in fact used to it (not saying OP is below this, just explaining why I prefer it). I like to SEE everything that's going on, rather than just watch someone's army idle for a while. That said, if there's a battle going on yeah stick to it so we can watch some fancy micro of course =]

On September 10 2010 06:56 Nihilnovi wrote:
I actually turn the sound off because the quality of information and the manner in which it is relayed from both artosis and tasteless is extremely lackluster and just annoyed me. I can't see either having any future in casting.

The comments are usually really bad, they both talk at the same time constantly, too much of what they say is not related to the game itself but rather bad insider jokes between them which just made me go "wtf?"

The camera is horrible, especially when they zoom. The quality of the stream is horrible enough without zooming in on pixels as well as it's really bad on the eyes and confusing. The constant jumping around the map is not very viewer friendly either, and MANY MANY times they jump off to some random spot while I'm watching the minimap seeing two armies going at it while they go something like;
"Isn't that right about that one thing that one time at that one place with you and/or me and X random player"
"Sure is dude, sure is"
"Haha, yeah, it is"
"Haha yeah"

Overall, can't compare them to day9, hd and husky at mlg and iem. The sheer difference in quality of what's being said is just astounding. I don't know how I can be specific, it would be like telling someone directions to a building that we're both standing in front of.

On September 10 2010 06:43 godzillathrilla wrote:
I don't know if anyone can get this to Tasteless, but if he sees it and doesn't take any criticism too badly I think it could really help. I'll post this on the Gom forums as well, but the topics tend to get buried there fast as few people respond.

From watching the Korean stream, I've noticed that their mouse and keyboard scroll sensitivity is quite a bit slower than yours. This helps reduce camera "jerkiness" if you're scrolling around using that method, and you're less likely to slip off someone's base or lose track of a big battle.

Also, they like to show off the players' APM at the start of the game, just as an interesting tidbit to the spectators. You can do this by pressing M, although its certainly not imperative. Your other knowledge of the ingame observer options is pretty good--you don't need to overdo these, although try to learn the hotkeys.

Don't zoom in too too much, as it can be a distraction from the whole scope of the game--and possibly prevent the spectator from enjoying a larger battle. I do appreciate your avid interest in map details and critters though Although that too can sometimes cause you to miss action or key information.

I generally feel like you're watching the game more like one would watch a replay--jumping around a bit too quickly to check out everything at once. While this is great for learning everything that's going on in the game, it makes spectating a bit harder; we're used to a slow camera without too much excessive movement. Move your mouse cursor slowly as well, or else it serves as a distraction to the spectator.

Overall I feel you're doing an excellent job for just starting. But one key thing is missing--that old Tasteless excitement. Your old energy for intense movements is somewhat muted because you have to know exactly how to follow the action, and your attention is divided. I don't really know how to solve this directly, without giving up and going to the Korean observer...but I'm sure in time you'll be skilled enough to pull off both at once, and we'll get to hear that old Tasteless fire once again. As it stands Artosis is doing a great job filling in during some key battles, and of course his casting analysis is nearly unparalleled.

Anyways, these are just some of my first thoughts, and I know you've been doing all of this to an extent, but it just needs some fine-tuning. Keep doing a great job!

On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote:
The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them!

Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries.

On September 10 2010 07:51 SuperGnu wrote:


You have ADD and dont even know wtf it is? lol. yea right, i think you meant ADHD and not ADHD-1(old ADD)

If you have ADD you aint all over the place, you are in one place and struggle just to move away almost.