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A little more showing of the production tab and use of the "V" and i am very very satisfied
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kadaver_BB
55 Posts
A little more showing of the production tab and use of the "V" and i am very very satisfied | ||
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Grend
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dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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MrBitter
United States2939 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:09 JWD wrote: The number one thing I'd like to see out of Artosis and Tasteless is for them to treat this more like a job and less like a hobby. By that I mean I'd like to see that they prepared for the matches before casting them. Many times they seem not to know anything about the players involved. Can we get some background, anecdotes, anything? This is the sort of stuff that is crucial to developing a young game — we need to know the players to root for them! Overall I think Artosis and Tasteless make a good combo though. I'd love to see Artosis go as in-depth on strategy as he did in his BW commentaries. ^^ This. (also, ohai!) I used to love Tasteless and SuperDan because SDM was sooo technical in his analysis. To steal a term from Day[9], Tasteless really has "the sauce". He's got that great voice for play-by-play, and listening to him cast is, to me, reminiscent of some of the great Harry Caray calls from back in the golden days of baseball. What the tastosis combo is missing right now, is the supplement to "the sauce". That dude who gives the background behind the players and the moves their making. Right now, listening to these two is certainly entertaining, but it lacks the degree of professionalism that I crave from (what should be) the pinnacle of SC2 commentary. edit: Does anyone remember SDM's stories about how different pros came to be? Winning tournaments at PC bangs, and struggling to get through courage? I miss that so much. | ||
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ChoboCop
United States954 Posts
Tasteless and Artosis: We invite you to work harder to become better casters by being more prepared and thoughtful. | ||
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Kordox
Denmark142 Posts
SC2 is a new game. So many people are not giving neither players, casters or even the game itself any chance whatsoever. Calm down and don't be so serious. Helpful criticism is fine, but as usual, it's quickly turning into mindless bashing. | ||
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phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
personally i dont care what the casters are talking, as long as they show me whats going on in the game. But that is not the case here, both artosis and tasteless they dont get anything whats going on. For Example the Torch game were he builds BCs. First they didnt notice the fusion core, than didnt notice that sanZenith didnt scout the fusion core altough he is flying with a observer through Torchs base... and at 50% : ohhh he builds BCs just omg .. its so game deciding that it hurts .. i could give countless examples, but right now we have to be happy to see some of the fights at least .. | ||
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Pufftrees
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On September 10 2010 06:56 Nihilnovi wrote: Overall, can't compare them to day9, hd and husky at mlg and iem. The sheer difference in quality of what's being said is just astounding. I don't know how I can be specific, it would be like telling someone directions to a building that we're both standing in front of. Plz give me a break. HD and Husky can't even describe what they see on the screen correctly. they have no game sense and miss half the stuff going on. Tastosis might not be perfect but they are leaps and bounds better then HDH. HDH casts at MLG were especially bad. I personnaly enjoy Tastosis' commentaries. some of those quotes are just epic. | ||
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Dookie1
United States70 Posts
u people who are hating will find anything to complain about no matter who is casting, and i'd much rather have a good show that they put on then boring lifeless robot commentating just because it is extremely technically correct | ||
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techh
Iceland82 Posts
Even tho sometimes they do make some weird jokes i still like there casting much much more than the korean style of screaming till your lungs collapse and then yell gg for 5 minutes. The camera control however could improve allot, i dont like the scroll in (not to huge tho) and i really think they need to focus more on where the actual interesting things are, battles MUST be viewed always and scouting each players base for new techs & buildings. but other than that im loving the casting and i really enjoy watching it, Both of them are legendary  | ||
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Druzal
United States25 Posts
So to balance this thread a bit: I really like Tasteless's and Artosis's enthusiasm. They always seem to be having fun and are obviously enjoying themselves up there. They actually have good knowledge of who is playing and the team structure in Korea so we get to have all sorts of nice juicy tidbits. The fact that Artosis is actively laddering over there, let us know about things like interesting ghost play in Idra's game. I think they both have handled technical and other difficulties quite well, despite some obvious lack of organization for the English cast by the directors/producers/crew over there. I felt like Tasteless did a good job of integrating Torch in as a temporary caster. A couple of time's Torch made some awkward transitions and Tasteless handled them really well. By the time Artosis was playing, I thought Torch was doing a pretty decent job as he gained some confidence. I really liked when Torch said something to the effect of, "We'll try to be neutral as casters." And Tasteless was basically, "Screw that, I'm rooting him on!" Admittedly the Guy Love is pretty funny... | ||
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SuperGnu
Sweden240 Posts
On September 10 2010 07:10 ILIVEFORAIUR wrote: All about the XP. You can't expect Artosis and Tasteless to be great commentators all of a sudden. Give them time This a joke, right? | ||
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pksens
United Kingdom156 Posts
What we immediately have is quality Tasteless commentary, great comedy and that alone is enough to deserve high praise. He's also never had to do his own camera work in GOM SC before I guess, the camera work will improve (but really, I watched some of the Korean versions of these games with English audio synced and the Korean obs missed a ton of things too). Some suggestions would be to keep an eye on the production tab as much the screen information, as viewers sometimes spot (well in advance) of you spotting new tech structures for example and it's a little frustrating to have you be surprised when it was infront of you for a while :D | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
Actually yea the camera can get a lot better :o Also I love the jokes BUT sometimes there is times you need to be more serious and actually explain what's going on and not laughing to chipmunk's nick. If they are actually reading this, you are doing a great job! Those are all thing you can improve in the future but I really enjoy the casts and the games and there is really only few casters I actually enjoy watching so good job :o | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
They're doing well imo. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2939 Posts
Here's a couple guys that kept it light, and had fun, but still hit on ALL the high points of the game, while also discussing strategy in great depth. (and doing all their own camera work) I don't think its wrong to expect that same level of quality from guys who are getting paid to do the same thing... | ||
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NehR
Sweden87 Posts
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
I think the observing would just go better if they followed the Korean observer and when/if they needed to check something relevant to what they were talking about, like to see if a scout saw the crucial tech building or not, Tasteless could just temporarily take control and check it and then set it back to korean observer. Then they really have only worry about showing the different tabs like apm and production which wouldn't be that difficult. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On September 10 2010 06:56 Nihilnovi wrote the following nonsense:+ Show Spoiler + I actually turn the sound off because the quality of information and the manner in which it is relayed from both artosis and tasteless is extremely lackluster and just annoyed me. I can't see either having any future in casting. The comments are usually really bad, they both talk at the same time constantly, too much of what they say is not related to the game itself but rather bad insider jokes between them which just made me go "wtf?" The camera is horrible, especially when they zoom. The quality of the stream is horrible enough without zooming in on pixels as well as it's really bad on the eyes and confusing. The constant jumping around the map is not very viewer friendly either, and MANY MANY times they jump off to some random spot while I'm watching the minimap seeing two armies going at it while they go something like; "Isn't that right about that one thing that one time at that one place with you and/or me and X random player" "Sure is dude, sure is" "Haha, yeah, it is" "Haha yeah" Overall, can't compare them to day9, hd and husky at mlg and iem. The sheer difference in quality of what's being said is just astounding. I don't know how I can be specific, it would be like telling someone directions to a building that we're both standing in front of. Yea you might regret that statement later in your TL life when you know what you just really said. Anyways... I hope to see them use the production tab more, I know I talked to Artosis about it. It is the most useful tab really out of all of them. APM is cool to switch to here or there to take care of peoples obsession with APM. Income is great for showing how ahead/behind someone is. Production ftw. | ||
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