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Allegria
Profile Joined July 2010
Switzerland83 Posts
October 02 2010 10:53 GMT
#481
It sometimes feels like the one who controls vision changes and they do not realise it - it was pretty bad in the RO4 especially. Maybe the'd have to talk with the organisators.
Apart from that, I enjoy their work a lot =)
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
October 02 2010 12:34 GMT
#482
On October 02 2010 10:05 Backpack wrote:
Tasteless isn't like his brother. He isn't trying to describe the exact builds and in-depth strategies that each player is doing. His job is to hype up the game and build excitement. Of course he is going to tunnel vision on the big battles instead of moving away from it and saying "OMG HE'S EXPANDINGGGGGGGGG"

It's not a casters job to explain exactly what the players are doing, you can just watch and see for yourself.



Casting is horrible, if you find this casting good you are expecting nothing from lifes qualities.

I listened to a restream of the korean version, and even though I do not understand what they are saying, their cameracontrol and emotions they put at keypoints are more then enough to get me super pumped up. Tasteless does not even come close to bring excitement, actually the analyst and the sc2 lexicon Artosis does this better.

Artosis is good, he could do well with another caster that had different qualities then him (more energy and emotions), but Tasteless, well, the fact he could even sink so low and show up with cold and act like he is a hero for us is just, I honestly do not have words for such.

I hope they fire Tasteless, 1 season has passed, and he is still very bad at everything he does. I gave him so many chances, never judged him in the start despise him being rusty. He just does not deliver.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 02 2010 12:39 GMT
#483
On September 30 2010 19:27 FecalDecal wrote:
I'd like to see him utilize a little more player view, and also pay close attention to the research/building tabs so we know what's coming.

But overall great job.


I'd like to see him utilize a LOT more player view, you can tell he was a SC1 caster for so long. Whereas other people like HD and Husky make more use of the tools at their fingertips.
derpmods
Aro_X
Profile Joined February 2009
United States106 Posts
October 02 2010 12:55 GMT
#484
i dont think they should preemptively say who is going to win no matter how obvious

it kinda kills the excitement because every 3 seconds they say "looks like player x is gonna type out any minute now" or "looks like we're going to the next map"

other then that, i think its been a good job.. his obsing will improve over time i believe
You're slow, even when falling.
Renoir_scII
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 13:49:20
October 02 2010 13:46 GMT
#485
On October 02 2010 21:34 crappen wrote:
Artosis is good, he could do well with another caster that had different qualities then him (more energy and emotions), but Tasteless, well, the fact he could even sink so low and show up with cold and act like he is a hero for us is just, I honestly do not have words for such.


In no way did Tasteless overemphasize the fact that he was sick and I think the fact that you think he was trying to have himself seen as a hero is very shortsighted and judgmental on your part. Tasteless mentioned his cold, they joked about it for a little bit, then moved on to cast the games. I believe he mentioned it once more so newer viewers would know why his voice was off but that does necessarily point to being a narcissist.
DminusTerran
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1337 Posts
October 02 2010 13:50 GMT
#486
Tips for Tasteless' Obsing


"Buckley's it tastes awful. And it works."
ShyRamen
Profile Joined July 2010
United States322 Posts
October 02 2010 13:53 GMT
#487
I like their commentaries but I have been hating GomTV stream, lag, quality and crappy support, they should do something about it
leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
October 02 2010 14:02 GMT
#488
Sort out your bloody hair Tasteless you look like Grandpa from The Munsters with that stupid middle fringe pulldown. I mean I know you're in Korea and dating a model who probably has some bizarre ideas about what looks good but that shit is just plain distracting.

Also don't piss all over your casting job and the associated company by cross promoting your own stuff constantly, we get it, you're in EG and you sell t-shirts, stop trying to Gootecks up my SC2 bro.
jaeds
Profile Joined September 2010
United States106 Posts
October 02 2010 14:18 GMT
#489
i respect his enthusiasm/excitement for starcraft, but i do feel like his humor got a bit tamer since sc1. i just imagine that this is because he's salaried with gomtv and can't make jokes that could offend people as an employee of gomtv.

i think it's a really difficult time to cast right now, considering the game has been out for only a couple months (as opposed to when he started casting for BW--- the game had been out for years... ie. set build orders leading to more predictable events) -- part of why it is exciting now is because players are able to do things that haven't been seen (or even thought of by many people) before... and i can't blame him for failing to predict what hasn't been seen before (also, i can't blame him for not being able to have the camera on 4 locations at once, even though i'd like to see them all)
FALAPARK
Profile Joined January 2010
United States224 Posts
October 02 2010 14:25 GMT
#490
Those two need a warning, i've bought gomtv tickets and watched them how they cast, they interrupt eachother too much, they miss too many things..... .no future for them if they keep up their hobbylike casting.......
enTee
Profile Joined September 2010
56 Posts
October 02 2010 14:30 GMT
#491
To all the haters: Find a better casterduo. HDH you say? lawl! Tastosis have been casting together for years, they pretty much know how to keep the stream of words flowing whereas HDH just dont have this.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
October 02 2010 14:38 GMT
#492
Literally can't believe all the hate here. Tastosis is an awesome duo.

The observing could still be improved, yeah, but that's it.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Korben
Profile Joined September 2010
United States139 Posts
October 02 2010 14:51 GMT
#493
I know there is a lot here about obsing and the like, but didn't day [9] once mention that according to his brother, that Korea has a separate man who is payed exclusively to move the camera and the like. Therefore the duo of Tastosis would be unable to effect what you see anyway?

Or was that just for broodwar?
Pain Heals, Chicks Dig Scars and Glory Lasts Forever.
LeDuck
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany152 Posts
October 02 2010 14:53 GMT
#494
Watching the korean stream was actually a lot more awesome in terms of observing and hype. They did a horrible job and should really work on themselves, because at the moment, there are a lot more people, who could do a better job than this.
Quack
enTee
Profile Joined September 2010
56 Posts
October 02 2010 14:55 GMT
#495
On October 02 2010 23:53 LeDuck wrote:
Watching the korean stream was actually a lot more awesome in terms of observing and hype. They did a horrible job and should really work on themselves, because at the moment, there are a lot more people, who could do a better job than this.

Please be so kind to name them.
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 14:59:22
October 02 2010 14:55 GMT
#496
Admittedly I ended up watching the Korean stream. Mainly because GOMTV's was lagging like hell. But it does seem they need to work on their casting alot to match the quality of Koreas.

I think tasteless really needs to get someone to do the obersving for him so he can concentrate on his commentary. Because at the moment neither his commentary or oberving are up to par (I think tasteless is fantastic usually but he's trying to do too much by commentating and observing and it shows).
Gogo Grubby.
IvanC
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia70 Posts
October 02 2010 14:59 GMT
#497
Some of my thoughts:
1. Less fixed screen, more moving and looking into different spots. I'd love to see more active screen swapping. Rotate between builds and units constantly.
2. Always look in the mini map to spot on going situations. Even if its insignificant like overlord spreading creep, etc. It's always better for viewers to get to know what's really going on.
3. More collaboration- Tasteless can do the camera observing; but Artosis (and maybe others through the headset) can really spot what else is happening on other parts of the map so that they can actually miss out on less.
4. Less general "filler" items like "That's such an awesome match" "Or <player> is such a sick sick monster", "I think we're going to see a good game" etc. Just let us know what you guys really think! Personal/ subjective or not, its up to viewers to decide and u know we love to debate on that!!!
5. Less cueing. Please. Nobody cares if the map pool screen/ game starts/ street fighter voice enters the screen at the exact time you guys mentioned it to be. We're here to see Tastosis cast the game, give us some personality and don't bother too much with the routines. Remember that you guys are just as important as the games itself.

Overall you guys are doing a pretty decent job and wanna let u know we really appreciate you guys living the dream in Korea. I'd love to see you guys becoming better in the process because I know you guys are better. Cheers!
being
Profile Joined September 2010
Niger16 Posts
October 02 2010 15:10 GMT
#498
To me it seems that much of the time Tasteless has a hard time relaxing. Instead he seems to be thinking, what to say. Once you start thinking, what to say, you won't really come up with anything good. If he's relaxed & enjoys himself, he's much better. I guess this thread with all this criticism hasn't really helped him either, but just made him more stiff.
ander
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada403 Posts
October 02 2010 15:29 GMT
#499
This thread is pretty ridiculous as far as i'm concerned. They're simply the best english casters there are. If anyone can legitimately tell me that they'd rather listed to HDH and Husky than Artosis and Tasteless, then i weep for the future. They're fantastic at they're jobs, and there is absolutely no reason for anything to change. The Grand Finals just ended making for the biggest SC2 story EVER, and everyone is talking about the casting. You're doing it wrong.
abrasion
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia722 Posts
October 02 2010 15:49 GMT
#500
Some of the whiny complaints in this thread are so ridiculous it's sad.
It's like people want AAA rating pro sports commentary 24/7 - it's fucking inane.

This is a niche sport, consider yourselves lucky you have anyone - they do a fairly reasonable job and when he does plug his own shit he does it humourously - who gives a shit if Tasteless is in EG and he mentions it inbetween matches. Are you that starved for data that one sentence inbetween games is wasting your time? Jesus.

What they do need is to keep their eye on the map more -and make better use of the obs features built in to SC2, also they need to not read this thread as they might cry at how dopey some starcraft fans are
derpmods
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