I had great hope for Tasteless, now I am not sure I want him to cast anymore.

The reason I dont like him now, is that he dont bring anything to the table. Artosis has great knowledge, he brings this to the table, as well as his casting is overall is good. But Tastless along with Artosis, he just becomes a shadow of Artosis, bringing nothing new, no excitement or anything.

I am trying, to find tips for Tasteless, but it hit me, when Tasteless was casting with Torch when Artosis played, that he simply does not fit in with Artosis. Sad to say this, but I would rather have Husky there instead, he brings excitement, something unique to my ears, I can live with his short comings. Artosis and tasteless are too similar, except Tasteless is just a shadow of Artosis Not sure you understod my point.

ShLiM

Bulgaria178 Posts

October 01 2010 21:38 GMT

#463

the only thing that bothers me alot is Tasteless constantly talking about the money, like 2342 times per cast he mentions "that they play for a lot of money", "this will cost him a lot of money", "he can win a lot of money" etc.

kidd

United States2848 Posts

October 01 2010 21:48 GMT

#464

I honestly thought I was alone in disliking their casting a lot. I actually think Artosis is funny and is a better caster, but feel like even a lot tl.net featured casters are much better at casting. Artosis is always more prepared and all of that so I have to give him credit, but Tasteless just seems to agree and maybe throw in one bit of useful info into the conversation. Artosis is generally more enthusiastic and seems more excited about what he's doing too.

The biggest thing that ruins their casting for me is, on more than one occasion, I noticed tech or expansions way before they did. As casters, I feel this is the most important skill for casters to have - always know what's going on and what's coming.

Augury

United States758 Posts

October 01 2010 22:09 GMT

#465

They're getting better at noticing things, but it's definitely hard to obs the game and cast at the same time. They're going to miss some things due to the setup.

Artosis would be a lot better if he stayed a little more detached from the games. He's very passionate about the games, which is a good thing, but I think it's getting to be too much. I'm very tired of him being so biased throughout the games as well.

dave22222

20 Posts

October 02 2010 00:47 GMT

#466

tasteless was great for brood war but he really lacks knowledge in sc2, bring on day9!

Demand2k

Norway875 Posts

October 02 2010 00:55 GMT

#467

How about just jumping in on the korean observer? Artosis is doing fine, but Tasteless is completely tunnelvision on whatever goes on in the current screen. This is a consequence of him controlling the camera himself. Most of us has eyes, and don't need to be told "... over here" all the time. Talking in broader terms are way better.

andrea20

Canada441 Posts

October 02 2010 01:01 GMT

#468

You'll never please everyone. Tastosis has synergy; they work well together and they feed off each other. Tasteless has been doing this for a long time, and people suggest that he's not adequate enough? Come on, it could be a lot worse. I suspect that if GOM listened to people in here, we'd have casting quality such as this.

For people who complain that Tastosis is "slower" than the Korean observers, note that they noticed FruitDealer gooping the expo on Scrap Station in the game against oGsTOP before the Koreans. Both of them will have their hits and misses.

Backpack

United States1776 Posts

October 02 2010 01:05 GMT

#469

Tasteless isn't like his brother. He isn't trying to describe the exact builds and in-depth strategies that each player is doing. His job is to hype up the game and build excitement. Of course he is going to tunnel vision on the big battles instead of moving away from it and saying "OMG HE'S EXPANDINGGGGGGGGG"

It's not a casters job to explain exactly what the players are doing, you can just watch and see for yourself.

Vega152

United States70 Posts

October 02 2010 01:19 GMT

#470

Sure, but that doesn't mean they'll have equal numbers of hits and misses.

I remember watching a hatchery build for about 2-3 minutes in one GSL game, watching dots move around on the minimap while Tastosis bantered about an unrelated subject. Banter is fine, it's cool, it's great and all, but please please don't let it detract from game analysis.

That much should be unsaid for professional casting. Listen to casters from any other sport: banter is there, but it never interferes with game commenting. This would be my number 1 comment to Tastosis.

Sure, mechanics could improve. Whatever. I'm not really worried about how smooth the camera is or having the production tab open all the time. I just want to make sure I can see each players base from time to time, and get to watch some epic fights.

One last thing: I miss the old, hyper-energetic Tasteless who talked a mile a minute during battles. Bring him back plees. <3

UnholyRai

720 Posts

October 02 2010 02:20 GMT

#471

Wow people need to QQ. Artosis and Tasteless are fantastic casters. I see Artosis as more of the knowledge and stategic analysis caster and Tasteless as the charismatic, excitable guy. Because they're so different they work well together as casters.

I really have no complaints, they're doing as well as they can, and they make me laugh quite a bit as well.

syntacks

Australia10 Posts

October 02 2010 03:12 GMT

#472

I agree that at the start of Ro64 Tastosis' commentry did feel a bit unpolished, but they have improved in leaps and bounds since then. I really enjoy their casting style and sense of humor, and the fact that they often remark that they're making efforts to improve and ask for feedback gives me confidence that they will continue to do so.
Occasionally, they have stopped to note that they are "noob-friendly" and taken a moment to explain what's currently going on and why it's important - I would really like to see this happen more often. Not all the time as that would be cumbersome, but even just once or maybe twice a match would be great.

Keep up the good work!

Al Bundy

7257 Posts

October 02 2010 04:42 GMT

#473

I don't know if it has actually been discussed but I watched every gsl game and I have never seens the "Army" tab being used. Can definitely be a nice feature e.g after a big battle takes place, it could be interesting to see what are the remaining armies sizes. Is there a reason why this tab is never used?

Aylear

Norway3988 Posts

October 02 2010 05:20 GMT

#474

Man, the commentating has improved so much. I still want to strangle them some times when they miss obvious minimap action or techs, or when the Koreans are enthusiastically screaming in the background about something they're barely commentating on. Still, it's like night and day.

cive

Canada370 Posts

October 02 2010 05:30 GMT

#475

Tasteless' job is caster not commentator. Artosis on the other hand is a commentator. Its not that Tasteless is any less knowledgeable than Artosis. It's his job to be the host of the show, make announcements and make Artosis look good during the game.

Hes obing is getting better really fast. I can see him resisting himself from moving the cam too much. LOL $300/h obing lessons.

I hope he continues to cast GSL for the ppl outside of Korea.

gn1k

United States441 Posts

October 02 2010 05:33 GMT

#476

I would like tasteless to scroll thought the production, units, income, and army tabs more. Though you can't really read the numbers so it isn't a big deal.
I think tasteless does a great job and I like his jokes at the start of the matches. Dreidel guy, debris vs rocks, overlord kiss, and of course panda bear guy.

UisTehSux

United States693 Posts

October 02 2010 09:24 GMT

#477

I think tasteless shouldn't be sick. He should be responsible with his health and learn2drink orange juice.

+ Show Spoiler +

Joking! Get well soon Tasteless! What a baller for being sick as fuck and still casting! :D

Grond

599 Posts

October 02 2010 10:32 GMT

#478

I think the casting is excellent but he has to do something about the Eddie Monster haircut.

MrBGJM

Australia124 Posts

October 02 2010 10:39 GMT

#479

I always thoroughly enjoy a game when tasteless commentates it. There are a few well known commentators for pro games but...they just don't make the game entertaining and intuitive at the same time. It's always just too focused on how so and so played the game and not so much about the greatness of the game that is starcraft.

I think if you out to learn something, download a replay pack and learn through your own commentating, but if you want some entertainment with that learning, watch some commentators, just my thought

silencefc

United States875 Posts

October 02 2010 10:46 GMT

#480

I really wish they'd leave the Production tab open more often. I'm having a hard time reading the numbers on the Unit tab even with the HQ stream.