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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
January 07 2012 20:14 GMT
#321
Yesterday the other team sent a Sivir top against me. Unfamiliar with the match-up, I opened Cloth+5. It felt like she could last hit and back off just enough to avoid getting parrley'd or just shield it when it was up. I got sick of eating boomerangs and managed to force an engagement by catching her coming into the brush, and I barely won. I have a feeling that if she would have played it smarter she could have beat me. What do you guys think of the match-up?
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pyrofoam
Profile Joined January 2011
United States16 Posts
January 07 2012 20:17 GMT
#322
I feel like with consistent boomerang dodging gp should be able to handle sivir without much trouble, though like you I don't really have experience with that match up.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
January 25 2012 23:59 GMT
#323
Hey I usually go for 2 phantom dancers an infinity edge manamune Ionian boots of lucidity and a phage. It's expensive but it works well what do you think of it?
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 26 2012 00:57 GMT
#324
On January 26 2012 08:59 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I usually go for 2 phantom dancers an infinity edge manamune Ionian boots of lucidity and a phage. It's expensive but it works well what do you think of it?

It's bad because you'll blow up in one stun, even if you eat your orange. Don't like glass cannon GP, I think he's supposed to be played at least a tad tanky.
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requiem
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States268 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 01:11:17
January 26 2012 01:07 GMT
#325
On January 26 2012 08:59 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I usually go for 2 phantom dancers an infinity edge manamune Ionian boots of lucidity and a phage. It's expensive but it works well what do you think of it?


don't get manamune, get a warmogs, as for if you really have that much money i'd say warmog, atma, IE, triforce, lw
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MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
January 26 2012 01:15 GMT
#326
On January 26 2012 10:07 requiem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2012 08:59 MindBreaker wrote:
Hey I usually go for 2 phantom dancers an infinity edge manamune Ionian boots of lucidity and a phage. It's expensive but it works well what do you think of it?


don't get manamune, get a warmogs, as for if you really have that much money i'd say warmog, atma, IE, triforce, lw


Ok will swap out manamune for warmog. Only use it early because of low mana
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 26 2012 01:18 GMT
#327
If you're winning play CARRYPLANKKKKUUU. Triforce IE PD BT LW crit for 1.5k+! (not sure on this number anymore)
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TG Manny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States325 Posts
January 26 2012 02:26 GMT
#328
I'm a newbie @ LoL and I kind of got addicted to GP and I'm like summoner level 10 usually following a build akin to...
Brawlers gloves -> Avarice Blade -> Sheen -> Zeal -> Trinity Force (iirc) -> build infinity edge whenever I need to heal -> phantom dancer.

However I don't believe my build is an issue, as when I'm relatively well fed and leveled I can even stave off large ganks until help arrives and generally keep heros weak for us to get map control for baron/dragon (which I end up soloing 99% of the time and don't baron).

Anyone willing to mentor me in how to properly play LoL and GP specifically?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 26 2012 02:52 GMT
#329
Chrispy is probably our resident GP monger, so you can ask him.

I typically open Cloth+5 vs AD, Boots+3 vs AP.
Wriggle's as first item if I can (Vamp scepter asaply) but double Blade if I need the HP.
Phage first. Trinity if you're ahead and can go DPS. Phage Atma is you plan on going more tanky. Mog's after Atma's.

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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 26 2012 02:53 GMT
#330
are you supposed to max w vs ww?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 26 2012 03:05 GMT
#331
On January 26 2012 11:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
are you supposed to max w vs ww?


I like QWQEQR, R > Q > W > E
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theMarkovian
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands183 Posts
January 26 2012 08:32 GMT
#332
On January 26 2012 11:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
are you supposed to max w vs ww?


Max Q as long as your poke makes him lose HP/mana significantly. Once he has some defensive stats, his passive healing will negate your Q spam and you can max W the rest of the way.
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Xedat
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 15:12:00
January 30 2012 15:10 GMT
#333
A few questions about itemization, when I go top I normally build philo warmogs atmas and then defensive items based on enemies, but I feel that building up to warmogs and until you have atmas you deal very little damage. I thought about building wriggles, sheen or atmas before warmogs to counter this lull in damage, what is the best option in your opinion?
Also if I have to carry with gangplank, what is the best way to deal damage? IE trinity atmogs BT or something like that? Is going zerkers okay in that case?
Thanks for your input.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 30 2012 15:24 GMT
#334
I tend to pick GP in situations where I haven't seen the opposing top and then I get CPed a lot with him, so I typically am playing incredibly passively in lane with GP and just opening philo + hog (+ wriggle's if it's an AD matchup) -> triforce -> atma's -> warmog's.

On January 31 2012 00:10 Xedat wrote:
A few questions about itemization, when I go top I normally build philo warmogs atmas and then defensive items based on enemies, but I feel that building up to warmogs and until you have atmas you deal very little damage. I thought about building wriggles, sheen or atmas before warmogs to counter this lull in damage, what is the best option in your opinion?Thanks for your input.

wriggle's and/or phage. drop the sheen boner and take phage, it makes you 100% impossible to run from in a typical chase and HP and AD are much cooler stats than AP and Mana.

On January 31 2012 00:10 Xedat wrote:Also if I have to carry with gangplank, what is the best way to deal damage? IE trinity atmogs BT or something like that? Is going zerkers okay in that case?
Thanks for your input.

boots 2 + wriggle's + trinity + atma's + warmog's should probably be in like, every gp build. If you're trying to carry, sure, IE for last item, if you're tanking out, Omen or FoN last item. Something like that. BT is unlikely to be gotten to because wriggle's is so much more cost efficient for the midgame and once you've gotten a 6 item build with wriggle's, it's probably better to pump elixirs than to save up to cash out wriggle's for a BT you're going to need to charge anyway.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 15:30:51
January 30 2012 15:26 GMT
#335
Most gangplanks go Wriggle's first into their giant's belt item. I really don't like philo stone because he doesn't get all that much out of it. Even Shurelya's isn't that great on him.

Also imo Frozen Mallet is better than Warmog's, since it's amazing for catching people or getting away. You won't be as tanky though.

edit: and if you get Triforce it's a little redundant but the guaranteed slow is still awesome
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 30 2012 15:32 GMT
#336
On January 31 2012 00:26 starfries wrote:
Most gangplanks go Wriggle's first into their giant's belt item. I really don't like philo stone because he doesn't get all that much out of it. Even Shurelya's isn't that great on him.

Also imo Frozen Mallet is better than Warmog's, since it's amazing for catching people or getting away. You won't be as tanky though.

Frozen Mallet is a bad item because trinity force is in the game. Mallet's cost effectiveness is pretty terrible and you end up dumping a lot of gold into the 100% slow chance when the combination of movespeed and 50% slow chance on Triforce accomplishes the same thing (makes you inescapable) while providing more betterer stats for the price. You can hate philo all you want, but if your goal is to sit on your tower and parrrley creeps until you can back for 2 pieces of triforce, gold/10s are pretty good IMO.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
January 30 2012 16:40 GMT
#337
How many lanes zone GP that hard though? My experience against GP and watching other people play or vs gp in ranked is that he's a kind of snowbally champ where, you are effective early game and your harass keeps him somewhat off creeps, you get a fast wriggles and even if he has wriggles your harass is strong enough that you keep him off creep line while keeping full hp by autoing creeps. If the other laner comes out on top generally GP is the one being zoned and he just farms as much as possible and uses ult to help other places in the map. Philo seems to automatically put you in that passive farm state.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
January 30 2012 16:56 GMT
#338
On January 31 2012 01:40 Slayer91 wrote:
How many lanes zone GP that hard though? My experience against GP and watching other people play or vs gp in ranked is that he's a kind of snowbally champ where, you are effective early game and your harass keeps him somewhat off creeps, you get a fast wriggles and even if he has wriggles your harass is strong enough that you keep him off creep line while keeping full hp by autoing creeps. If the other laner comes out on top generally GP is the one being zoned and he just farms as much as possible and uses ult to help other places in the map. Philo seems to automatically put you in that passive farm state.

Pantheon, Rumble, Kennen (unless you get an early crit parrrley and kill him), WW, Yorick, Riven, hell, even the last time I played vs. Renek he was getting all up in my business when I tried to rush Wriggle's + Tabi.

I dunno, I always seem to play one of these matchups when I pick GP, so I just end up playing him passively so frequently. A lot of them are GP advantages for like, the first 4 levels or something, but after that I just feel so helpless vs. characters with strong sustain that I just say fuck it and go double gold/10 -> farm 15K gold and win lategame.

Maybe I'm just bad at playing GP aggressively =3. I wonder if my parrrley positioning sucks because I'm used to just spear tossing with Pantheon because spears don't draw creep agro.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 17:21:29
January 30 2012 17:19 GMT
#339
Wrong thread, my apologies.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
February 06 2012 04:54 GMT
#340
why do warmog's come after atma;s? i feel like getting it after trinity and atma's is just so late game that you won't be that relevant until super late game, and oftentimes i feel like i can't carry my team until then.
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