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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here. Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue. Keep it civil. NOTE: For those of you who want to find the actual ABL thread where the bans are posted. Please look in here: https://tl.net/forum/closed-threads/ | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
On November 20 2011 14:54 BobTheLob wrote: hmm i wonder if I have any mods watching me waiting to give me the first real warning/ban (looking at you Mani) Take care for if you gaze into the Mani, the Mani may also gaze into you. | ||
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BobTheLob
Canada362 Posts
On November 20 2011 15:04 Synwave wrote: Take care for if you gaze into the Mani, the Mani may also gaze into you. hmm no not that I once asked what a warn would look like and he sent me a warn PM that said something along the lines of THIS IS A WARNING -------------------------------- reason goes here | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote: I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you." Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done. That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.  | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4343 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Then I had to go help set things up at 1234 :D Not to backseat moderate or anything, but if I was Mani: I'd grow my mustache out longer to truly show your power. Maybe some steam coming out of your nose, a clenched fist and furrowed brows. Mm... yeah! | ||
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TruthIsCold
51 Posts
On November 20 2011 15:23 EvilTeletubby wrote: Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done. That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone. I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it. The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo. | ||
infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote: I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it. The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo. The mods have different standards, simply because they're not clones of each other. But it would be false to admit that each one has arbitrary standards. Mods have disagreed on bans before, but the important thing is that they almost always concur. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22261 Posts
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote: I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it. The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo. You were 'attacked' because you're going about it in a passive aggressive, dicky kinda way. Let's look: On November 20 2011 12:39 TruthIsCold wrote: I'm seeing people get banned for really minor, insignificant things, and yet I see a whole slew of one-liner offensive posts towards the US not getting warned. I mean it really feels like some double standards or something. ... I'm pretty new here, just wondering if there's an explanation for this, and if it's still worth my time to stick around this site. On November 20 2011 12:46 TruthIsCold wrote: Hmm ok... I just thought it was odd that people were getting banned on page 12 when there were some pretty bad posts on like page 8 still. On November 20 2011 14:00 TruthIsCold wrote: That's an understatement if I ever heard one. It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow. On November 20 2011 14:42 TruthIsCold wrote: But warning me because you are feeling upset with the trend of this thread is kind of reinforcing my argument about seemingly arbitrary standards. On November 20 2011 02:37 TruthIsCold wrote: It's sad the moderators tolerate it so much. I've been scratching my head wondering why some of the posts on this site aren't getting warnings. On November 20 2011 12:50 TruthIsCold wrote: Honestly, his post was much more understandable and worthy of tolerance than many of the ridiculous nation bashing that preceded his, which have yet to receive a warning or ban I might add. This whole clusterfuck: On November 19 2011 13:13 TruthIsCold wrote: Jibba's not the only mod on this forum, friend. Some mods are much more tolerant than others. Of course I'm not back seat moderating here, I'm just giving you a friendly warning to be careful. On November 19 2011 13:30 TruthIsCold wrote: Oh boy, I tried to warn him... He's pushing his luck. You don't ask questions, you make shitty comments. The only time you've asked is when you were called out on it. We'll be the FIRST ones to admit that we bring our own personalities to the table, and each may judge a situation a little differently. You want to know why TL.net is awesome? Because we don't need to spell out little fucking inane rules for our staff to follow that are so black and white that we would essentially become robots. If a Mod is too strict, we'll talk about it on the staff forums. If the action to take is a bit of a gray area, we'll talk about it on the staff forums. If there are particular concerns about a user, we'll talk about it on the staff forums to come to a consensus. As eluded to above though, that is very, very rare that we are off base from one another. We're generally all so much on the same page, it's as if we're a flock of birds all changing direction at the same time. Hell, most of your complaints are just about items missed - with the thousands of posts made every day and the handful of mods, some things may get missed. Find me a message board that is more transparent with the actions they take. But I digress... since you need rules spelled out for you, how about this one: Don't be an asshole, and you'll be fine. So far, you're not doing the greatest job here. | ||
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TOloseGT
United States1145 Posts
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Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
On November 20 2011 17:37 TOloseGT wrote: Does he think his bullshit is actually fooling anyone? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a PBU. Reeks of it | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
You should be glad that we even have 10 commandments to tell us how to not be a dick here. It's pretty obvious anyway. I think ETT handled this well | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
 , all because nestea lost to naniwa ? | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On November 20 2011 19:06 Sawamura wrote: So many ban's in a single day , all because + Show Spoiler [MLG] +nestea lost to naniwa + Show Spoiler [MLG] + MC > Idra too A misquoted interview from Naniwa made him the bad guy against NesTea who wanted "revenge". There is also some crying for Naniwa wanting to play on the correct map (lol) and how a cannon rush should be a banned strategy. Oh, and they are also upset Naniwa DARED to thumb down The Zerg King Nestea. Time to riot. "No name naniwa has no right to be "BM" in his ceremony" Naniwa watched the replay of the game on the wrong map.. all 1:40 ingame time of it (lol) which isn't against the rules but CLEARLY unprofessional and totally not ok (lol). You can't kill the Zerg hero without a bit of crying on TL, it is just not possible. It wasn't half as bad as people make it out to be but humans love them some drama  T_T EDIT: Spoilered the entire thing. | ||
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ragnorr
Denmark6097 Posts
On November 20 2011 19:06 Sawamura wrote: So many ban's in a single day , all because nestea lost to naniwa ?Every major event weekend(MLG/Dreamhack) tend to do this when their favorite players lose. + Show Spoiler + Idra vs MC also tend to make the LR thread go crazy since they both have huge fangroups | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51701 Posts
whats with the PBU hate? | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Quiet. Convict. lol <3 | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote: I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it. The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo. There comes a time when people just need to shut up and accept what is being told to them. Especially when they have 40 posts and their back talking the moderators. | ||
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colingrad
United States210 Posts
i really try to read the LR threads as the tournaments go on but now if there's a major tournament going on i don't even open them. hopefully the thread today doesnt need to be locked but blehh whatever happened to a little civility | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
be nice. be really nice. be supportive to anything you like and try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers. edit: Dont do anything other than what i said above | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On November 21 2011 00:20 BurningSera wrote: is pretty simple to survive on TL: be nice. be really nice. be supportive to anything you like and try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers. edit: Dont do anything other than what i said above Be supportive to anything you like? Try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers? ez, brb spamming Bisu pics | ||
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