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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 20 2011 06:04 GMT
#13661
On November 20 2011 14:54 BobTheLob wrote:
hmm i wonder if I have any mods watching me waiting to give me the first real warning/ban (looking at you Mani)


Take care for if you gaze into the Mani, the Mani may also gaze into you.
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BobTheLob
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada362 Posts
November 20 2011 06:12 GMT
#13662
On November 20 2011 15:04 Synwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 14:54 BobTheLob wrote:
hmm i wonder if I have any mods watching me waiting to give me the first real warning/ban (looking at you Mani)


Take care for if you gaze into the Mani, the Mani may also gaze into you.


hmm no not that I once asked what a warn would look like and he sent me a warn PM that said something along the lines of

THIS IS A WARNING
--------------------------------
reason goes here
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
November 20 2011 06:23 GMT
#13663
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 14:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
"It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow."

Is a warnable comment. It is a dick thing to say when you see how transparent the moderation is, and the lengths we go to to make the standards clear.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you."


Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done.

That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4341 Posts
November 20 2011 06:42 GMT
#13664
How's that for vauge Truth? ETT layin down the law.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 20 2011 07:26 GMT
#13665
Wow, the LR really erupted after Nestea lost? I was seriously pissed too though, I'm usually not, but seeing Nestea get mad and throw his headset made me red in the face ):

Then I had to go help set things up at 1234 :D

Not to backseat moderate or anything, but if I was Mani: I'd grow my mustache out longer to truly show your power. Maybe some steam coming out of your nose, a clenched fist and furrowed brows.

Mm... yeah!
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TruthIsCold
Profile Joined November 2011
51 Posts
November 20 2011 07:46 GMT
#13666
On November 20 2011 15:23 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
"It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow."

Is a warnable comment. It is a dick thing to say when you see how transparent the moderation is, and the lengths we go to to make the standards clear.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you."


Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done.

That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.

I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it.

The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo.
"Be formed. Shaped. Like rock. If you put rock into a cup, it doesn't become the cup. Put it into a teapot, it doesn't become the teapot. Rocks can't flow, creep, drip, or crash. Be rock my friend."
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 20 2011 07:48 GMT
#13667
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 15:23 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
"It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow."

Is a warnable comment. It is a dick thing to say when you see how transparent the moderation is, and the lengths we go to to make the standards clear.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you."


Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done.

That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.

I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it.

The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo.

The mods have different standards, simply because they're not clones of each other. But it would be false to admit that each one has arbitrary standards. Mods have disagreed on bans before, but the important thing is that they almost always concur.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 08:29:03
November 20 2011 08:25 GMT
#13668
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 15:23 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
"It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow."

Is a warnable comment. It is a dick thing to say when you see how transparent the moderation is, and the lengths we go to to make the standards clear.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you."


Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done.

That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.

I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it.

The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo.


You were 'attacked' because you're going about it in a passive aggressive, dicky kinda way.

Let's look:

On November 20 2011 12:39 TruthIsCold wrote:
I'm seeing people get banned for really minor, insignificant things, and yet I see a whole slew of one-liner offensive posts towards the US not getting warned. I mean it really feels like some double standards or something.

...

I'm pretty new here, just wondering if there's an explanation for this, and if it's still worth my time to stick around this site.


On November 20 2011 12:46 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 12:39 TheToast wrote:

LR thread moves really fast, many of these will be banned or warned by tomorrow when the mods have time to go through the whole thing. If not, pm a link to the post to a mod, and it will likely be dealt with.

Hmm ok... I just thought it was odd that people were getting banned on page 12 when there were some pretty bad posts on like page 8 still.


On November 20 2011 14:00 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:31 tomatriedes wrote:
I guess mods will always have different standards and opinions about things.


That's an understatement if I ever heard one. It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow.


On November 20 2011 14:42 TruthIsCold wrote:
But warning me because you are feeling upset with the trend of this thread is kind of reinforcing my argument about seemingly arbitrary standards.


On November 20 2011 02:37 TruthIsCold wrote:
It's sad the moderators tolerate it so much. I've been scratching my head wondering why some of the posts on this site aren't getting warnings.


On November 20 2011 12:50 TruthIsCold wrote:
Honestly, his post was much more understandable and worthy of tolerance than many of the ridiculous nation bashing that preceded his, which have yet to receive a warning or ban I might add.


This whole clusterfuck:

On November 19 2011 13:13 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 13:12 djbhINDI wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:09 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:07 djbhINDI wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:06 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 19 2011 13:00 djbhINDI wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Also, sexism is a natural consequence of an empirical and extended failure of women to do anything much.
Before everyone sets phasers to kill, think about it.

Computers? Apart from Ada Lovelace, (who was NOT the first computer programmer, Charles Babbage made an infinitely superior contribution), EVERYTHING has been done by men. Gates, Torvaldis, Knuth, Jobs. C, Windows, Unix, Linux, Mac OS, the mouse, the keyboard, the USB drive, the monitor, the LCD screen, the speaker.

Technology in general, btw. Electricity, light bulbs, rockets, calculators, phones, microphones, glasses, CD's, DVD's. Refrigerators, washing machines, toilets.

Math? Gravity, physics, derivation, integration, summation, trigonometry, etc. was ALL developed by men. Newton, Galileo, etc. Astrophysics? Einstein, Chandrashekar, Eddington, Susskind, Penzias...the list goes on.

Art? DaVinci, Michelangelo, Manet, Monet, Gaudi, Raphael, Van Gogh.

Literature? Milton, Emerson, Thoreau, Bradbury, Steinbeck, Clark, Asimov, Tolstoy, Salinger, Poe, Hawthorne, Miller. Out of ALL of the course texts I've read in 3 years of high school, only ONE has been written by a woman.

Music? lol, perhaps even more than science: Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi, Rachmanianoff, Liszt, Tchiakovsky, Gershwin, Schubert, Mendelev, Debussy, Schumann, Shostakovich...I've studied music theory for 11 years and out of ALL of the famous composers I've had to remember/have seen on tests, not ONE was a woman. Not ONE.

What is freaking left? Psychology? Freud, Jung, Hall, Wundt. Philosophy? Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Gandhi, Buddha, Camus, Nietzsche.


TL DR; Everything, pretty much ever, has been done by men.

BUT WAIT

I know what you're going to say:

"Women only failed to accomplish anything because of patriarchal society yo!"

So, men dominate women. We make the do the unpleasant stuff, like not pay for dates and get everything in divorces and stuff!
In all seriousness, however, why do we (men) go to war? If we just made women do the unpleasant shit, then why do MEN go to war, the most unpleasant thing, ever?

BUT WAIT

I know what you're thinking.

"Men are stronger than women - making women go to war would be stupid!"

To which I agree. But why not:

"Women are less adept at mathematics than men - having women do math would be stupid!"

Suddenly, a shitstorm. I mean, any female and any feminist would be absolutely willing to say that men are stronger.
Why can't they admit that men are smarter? Much evidence points to the fact that brain development is related to the size of the brain; the ratio among smarter creatures increases empirically (save for the Homo Erectus).
Strength is a physical characteristic; intelligence is as well. If you deny this, explain how those hit over the head as children grow up mentally deficient.

People will bring up bullshit lab experiments "proving" the relative intelligence of the female.
Here's a lab experiment for you: the last ten thousand years of human history.

Whiteknights will try to point out the few female scientists, etc. that have contributed.
I'm not saying that NO female will EVER contribute, just that sexism has empirical backing.

Men built the pyramids, the great wall, the Eiffel tower, the Taj Mahal, and Chichen Itza.
They are the soldiers, scholars, artists, and leaders.

+ Show Spoiler +
To mods:
I respect your decisions so far in the bans/warnings I have received. I feel strongly, though, that there is no warrant for banning me in this post. I don't swear, I state only empirical fact, and I'm not flaming or trolling anyone. This isn't martyring, this is just pre-empting.

lol...

Your post was in bad taste, but it really gave me a good laugh, thank you!

As an aside... I hope you are ready to get banned for your beliefs. Otherwise you might want to edit fast

Edit: Nevermind, I just saw the spoiler you made. You are doomed, my friend. Doomed.

Why? What part of my post broke the guidelines?

You broke the "don't make any mod mad at you" guideline. It's not like they have a clear set of rules lol.

TL's mods are better than that, lol, they don't ban you just because they disagree.
Case in point: Jibba above. He evidently disagrees with my point of view and could have probably froze me easily.
But he didn't; he recognizes my opinion even though, as he says, I'm an idiot.

Jibba's not the only mod on this forum, friend. Some mods are much more tolerant than others. Of course I'm not back seat moderating here, I'm just giving you a friendly warning to be careful.


On November 19 2011 13:30 TruthIsCold wrote:
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On November 19 2011 13:28 djbhINDI wrote:
intelligence wasn't exactly in the female bag.

Oh boy, I tried to warn him... He's pushing his luck.


You don't ask questions, you make shitty comments. The only time you've asked is when you were called out on it.

We'll be the FIRST ones to admit that we bring our own personalities to the table, and each may judge a situation a little differently. You want to know why TL.net is awesome? Because we don't need to spell out little fucking inane rules for our staff to follow that are so black and white that we would essentially become robots. If a Mod is too strict, we'll talk about it on the staff forums. If the action to take is a bit of a gray area, we'll talk about it on the staff forums. If there are particular concerns about a user, we'll talk about it on the staff forums to come to a consensus. As eluded to above though, that is very, very rare that we are off base from one another. We're generally all so much on the same page, it's as if we're a flock of birds all changing direction at the same time. Hell, most of your complaints are just about items missed - with the thousands of posts made every day and the handful of mods, some things may get missed. Find me a message board that is more transparent with the actions they take.

But I digress... since you need rules spelled out for you, how about this one: Don't be an asshole, and you'll be fine. So far, you're not doing the greatest job here.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
November 20 2011 08:37 GMT
#13669
Does he think his bullshit is actually fooling anyone? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a PBU.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27168 Posts
November 20 2011 08:43 GMT
#13670
On November 20 2011 17:37 TOloseGT wrote:
Does he think his bullshit is actually fooling anyone? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a PBU.


Reeks of it
ModeratorGodfather
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 20 2011 09:43 GMT
#13671
TruthIs looks a lot like a bitter PBU. I've basically never been confused or in disagreement with any ban or any warning ever, I think that most people have had that experience as well. The rules aren't vague in any way whatsoever, and what you quoted was one single line of the 10 commandments. It wasn't even one of them in in of itself.

You should be glad that we even have 10 commandments to tell us how to not be a dick here. It's pretty obvious anyway. I think ETT handled this well
memes are a dish best served dank
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 20 2011 10:06 GMT
#13672
So many ban's in a single day , all because nestea lost to naniwa ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 11:45:10
November 20 2011 11:08 GMT
#13673
On November 20 2011 19:06 Sawamura wrote:
So many ban's in a single day , all because + Show Spoiler [MLG] +
nestea lost to naniwa
?

+ Show Spoiler [MLG] +
MC > Idra too

A misquoted interview from Naniwa made him the bad guy against NesTea who wanted "revenge".
There is also some crying for Naniwa wanting to play on the correct map (lol) and how a cannon rush should be a banned strategy.

Oh, and they are also upset Naniwa DARED to thumb down The Zerg King Nestea. Time to riot.
"No name naniwa has no right to be "BM" in his ceremony"

Naniwa watched the replay of the game on the wrong map.. all 1:40 ingame time of it (lol) which isn't against the rules but CLEARLY unprofessional and totally not ok (lol).

You can't kill the Zerg hero without a bit of crying on TL, it is just not possible. It wasn't half as bad as people make it out to be but humans love them some drama

T_T

EDIT: Spoilered the entire thing.
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
November 20 2011 12:18 GMT
#13674
On November 20 2011 19:06 Sawamura wrote:
So many ban's in a single day , all because nestea lost to naniwa ?

Every major event weekend(MLG/Dreamhack) tend to do this when their favorite players lose.
+ Show Spoiler +
Idra vs MC also tend to make the LR thread go crazy since they both have huge fangroups
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
November 20 2011 13:07 GMT
#13675
On November 20 2011 17:43 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 17:37 TOloseGT wrote:
Does he think his bullshit is actually fooling anyone? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a PBU.


Reeks of it


whats with the PBU hate?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 20 2011 13:13 GMT
#13676
On November 20 2011 22:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 17:43 Manifesto7 wrote:
On November 20 2011 17:37 TOloseGT wrote:
Does he think his bullshit is actually fooling anyone? I wouldn't be surprised if he is a PBU.


Reeks of it


whats with the PBU hate?


Quiet.
Convict.



lol <3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 20 2011 13:25 GMT
#13677
On November 20 2011 16:46 TruthIsCold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 15:23 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:48 TruthIsCold wrote:
On November 20 2011 14:45 Manifesto7 wrote:
"It'd be nice to have an actual standard to follow."

Is a warnable comment. It is a dick thing to say when you see how transparent the moderation is, and the lengths we go to to make the standards clear.

I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm new here and just trying to figure out how everything works and what standards I should follow but it's sort of difficult. I want to learn as quickly as possible for future reference. Even the ten commandments are kind of vague, saying things like "if we don't like you, we simply ban you."


Well, you are being a bit of a dick. Especially considering we've been doing the things we do for years now, and you see fit to come in and critique the moderation of the site. This isn't the B.net forums or some paid service you have. We have no obligation to be fair or rational with you. You are a guest on our website. Does this mean we will just randomly ban you for no reason? No, of course not. But there must be a reason we're as big as we are, and it starts with the posting culture that has developed here. How do you get in touch with that culture? Be quiet, don't post, and observe how it's done.

That's like if you're tagging along with a friend going to a party for some guy you've never met before. You don't walk in his house and start making waves by telling him his pictures are hung wrong. You shut the fuck up until you start to gel with everyone.

I didn't tell anyone they were doing it wrong. All I did was see some inconsistencies and ask some questions, and I started to get attacked for it.

The guy right above me says "the mods have different standards," and as soon as I agree with him I get slapped with a warning. It's absolutely undeniable that the mods have different standards, it's really not a big deal to admit imo.


There comes a time when people just need to shut up and accept what is being told to them.

Especially when they have 40 posts and their back talking the moderators.

colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
November 20 2011 15:11 GMT
#13678
its almost like during mlg tournaments because so much staff and mods are at the tournament itself or otherwise busy there needs to be temp mods who can dish out some justice i really try to read the LR threads as the tournaments go on but now if there's a major tournament going on i don't even open them. hopefully the thread today doesnt need to be locked but blehh whatever happened to a little civility
For the Emperor!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 15:20:43
November 20 2011 15:20 GMT
#13679
is pretty simple to survive on TL:

be nice. be really nice. be supportive to anything you like and try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers.

edit: Dont do anything other than what i said above
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 20 2011 15:37 GMT
#13680
On November 21 2011 00:20 BurningSera wrote:
is pretty simple to survive on TL:

be nice. be really nice. be supportive to anything you like and try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers.

edit: Dont do anything other than what i said above

Be supportive to anything you like? Try to contribute for the fellow TL-ers?
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